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SamF
Mar-18-08, 12:01 AM
Wurdz on the street is that eating chilly on a regular basis speeds up your metabolism by something like 25%

How true is that and to what degree do you need to actually eat chilly for it to start and speed up your metabolism?

I NOM NOM NOM Curry once a week (my curry has a nice amount of chilly) I know that isn't close to enough, but how the fuck other then in curry do you eat chilly? Tastes like shit in almost everything else IMO.

Anonymous
Mar-18-08, 12:31 AM
Chili is Asia's territory.

Mostly.

SamF
Mar-18-08, 12:47 AM
You sir just failed.

Anonymous
Mar-18-08, 12:59 AM
Yes.

Rahf
Mar-18-08, 01:40 AM
OBJECTIVES: To evaluate the effect of 5 g fresh chili pepper (CAP) on glucose response after a glucose drink and metabolic rate (MR) in Thai women. MATERIAL AND METHOD: The glucose response after a glucose drink was evaluated in 10 healthy women. The plasma glucose levels at 0, 15, 30 and 60 min after glucose load with and without 5 g fresh CAP were compared. Evaluation of MR was performed in an additional 12 subjects. MR was measured by the ventilated-hood indirect calorimetry system before and for 60 min after CAP ingestion. RESULTS: The rise of plasma glucose at 30 min after CAP ingestion was significantly lower than the rise of plasma glucose after a plain glucose drink by 20.6 per cent (p < 0.01). On the other hand, the CAP ingestion significantly increased MR above resting MR. Moreover, MR immediately increased by 20 per cent within a few minutes after CAP ingestion and showed a remarkable increase of 7.2-17.4 per cent from baseline for 11 min. The significance of thermogenic change was present up to 30 min (p < 0.05). CONCLUSIONS: Within 30 min after consumption of 5 g of Capsicum frutescens, plasma glucose level during the absorption period was significantly inhibited. The metabolic rate was also immediately increased after ingestion and sustained up to 30 min.

J Med Assoc Thai. 2003 Sep;86(9):854-60.

"These results suggest than an increase in the energy expenditure after the meal containing red pepper appeared only immediately after the meal ingestion and a red-pepper diet increases the carbohydrate oxidation without increasing total energy expenditure for 150 min after the meal. And an increase in the energy expenditure immediately after the meal containing red pepper is considered to be caused by beta-adrenergic stimulation."


J Nutr Sci Vitaminol (Tokyo). 1995 Dec;41(6):647-56.

"The effects of red pepper and caffeine ingestion on energy and macronutrient balances were examined in eight Caucasian male subjects. All subjects participated in two randomly assigned conditions: control and experimental (red pepper and caffeine). After ingesting a standardized breakfast, subjects ate three meals ad libitum (lunch, dinner and breakfast) and snacks which were served approximately 2 h after the lunch and dinner over a 24 h period. Two appetizers with or without 3 g red pepper) were given before lunch and dinner, and a drink (decaffeinated coffee with or without 200 mg caffeine) was served at all meals and snacks except for the after-dinner snack. It is also important to note that on the experimental day, 8.6 and 7.2 g red pepper were also added to lunch and dinner respectively. Red pepper and caffeine consumption significantly reduced the cumulative ad libitum energy intake and increased energy expenditure. The mean difference in energy balance between both conditions was 4000 kJ/d. Moreover, the power spectral analysis of heart rate suggested that this effect of red pepper was associated with an increase in sympathetic:parasympathetic nervous system activity ratio. These results indicate that the consumption of red pepper and caffeine can induce a considerable change in energy balance when individuals are given free access to foods."


Br J Nutr. 2001 Feb;85(2):203-11. Combined effects of red pepper and caffeine consumption on 24 h energy balance in subjects given free access to foods.

SamF
Mar-18-08, 02:33 AM
So eating peppers/chilly with a cup of coffee = Win for the metabolism.

Cheers for the articles.

jiayo-chris
Mar-18-08, 02:42 AM
Thats interesting!

Rahf
Mar-18-08, 04:54 AM
So eating peppers/chilly with a cup of coffee = Win for the metabolism.

Cheers for the articles.

Remember that the amount of chili you need to eat to match the study is pretty big. In other words, you'll burn everytime you eat a meal. The amount of caffeine ingested is also relatively high.

JacktheHero
Mar-18-08, 09:26 AM
yeah great just eat 5g chili pepper every 11min-
the effect is supposed to come from capsaicin, no?
If yes, then why don't they fucking mention how many scoville their extracts had..

5g chili pepper is nothing btw. there is that adaptation to capsaicin so some people could drink pure pepper spray.
Hence I wonder whether the effect on metabolism would weaken if you're used to chili.

GeneralBrownie
Mar-19-08, 08:15 AM
I think I would vomit form eating that.

Rahf
Mar-19-08, 08:23 AM
yeah great just eat 5g chili pepper every 11min-
the effect is supposed to come from capsaicin, no?
If yes, then why don't they fucking mention how many scoville their extracts had..

5g chili pepper is nothing btw. there is that adaptation to capsaicin so some people could drink pure pepper spray.
Hence I wonder whether the effect on metabolism would weaken if you're used to chili.

Think of it from a a realistic perspective, are you really willing to eat more than 5g of chili (pure chili pepper) several times a day just to get a boost in your metabolism? Do you really have such a lacking discipline that you cannot lose weight without it?

JacktheHero
Mar-19-08, 01:13 PM
I tried to point out the opposite: I think or I used to think it's useless to eat chili to improve weightloss the same it is uselss to drink cold water (because the added benefit is way to small)

But if one could replace the chili with (almost) pure capsaicin extracts it COULD work (cause they have practically 0 calories and you'd need only some DROPS of it). And Cause they are cheap and convenient (and MUCH stronger than chili)..

Besides I love that stinging and burning sensation, but, no, I don't *need* them for weightloss personally.

Yuri
Mar-19-08, 01:26 PM
you will smell, your home will smell, and your shits will burn

good luck

Rahf
Mar-19-08, 01:51 PM
I tried to point out the opposite: I think or I used to think it's useless to eat chili to improve weightloss the same it is uselss to drink cold water (because the added benefit is way to small)

But if one could replace the chili with (almost) pure capsaicin extracts it COULD work (cause they have practically 0 calories and you'd need only some DROPS of it). And Cause they are cheap and convenient (and MUCH stronger than chili)..

Besides I love that stinging and burning sensation, but, no, I don't *need* them for weightloss personally.

"Many drops make a river."

AjStyles
Mar-23-08, 06:21 AM
I am not sure about curry
but spicy food is bad for metabolism

Rahf
Mar-23-08, 08:48 AM
I am not sure about curry
but spicy food is bad for metabolism

Explain.

JacktheHero
Mar-23-08, 01:29 PM
you will smell, your home will smell, and your shits will burn

good luck
they call it "ring of fire" where I live, and having a shit can be quite painful that way xD

Rahf, that's gossip nothing more..

Rahf
Mar-23-08, 03:37 PM
they call it "ring of fire" where I live, and having a shit can be quite painful that way xD

Rahf, that's gossip nothing more..

As much as I know this, I want AJStyles here to explain just why it is bad for the metabolism. By doing this it will hopefully make some sparks fly between his brain cells, conveying the thought that the theory of chili vs metabolism maybe doesn't hold any ground after all.

Presto! He's just activated his brain and got some insight. I'm too tired to wrap it in a nice little bundle of pleasant text right now :bandit:

AjStyles
Mar-24-08, 01:55 AM
Explain.

As much as I know this, I want AJStyles here to explain just why it is bad for the metabolism. By doing this it will hopefully make some sparks fly between his brain cells, conveying the thought that the theory of chili vs metabolism maybe doesn't hold any ground after all.

Presto! He's just activated his brain and got some insight. I'm too tired to wrap it in a nice little bundle of pleasant text right now :bandit:

http://www.blackmores.com.au/Conditions/Detail.aspx?ConditionId=1404
MOUTH ULSER

LAST COLOUME:
Remedy
Avoid (spicy foods) and any food known to cause problems, and reduce stress.

http://www.blackmores.com.au/Conditions/Detail.aspx?ConditionId=1326

Irritable Bowel Syndrome
UNDER Lifestyle factors

Try to avoid fatty foods, alcohol, coffee (including decaffeinated), (spicy foods), sugar and artificial sweeteners which are amongst the most common triggers of IBS symptoms.


http://www.blackmores.com.au/Conditions/Detail.aspx?ConditionId=1394
Stomach ulcer

Lifestyle factors
Some patients find that their condition is aggravated by certain foods. Common culprits are citrus fruits, tomatoes, spicy foods, fatty foods, alcohol and caffeine. Cooked vegetables, non-citrus fruit and soft, easily digested foods such as porridge are preferable

http://www.blackmores.com.au/Pregnancy/Info/Detail.aspx?ArticleId=8878
Common Discomforts

Under Morning Sickness

¤ Avoid strong smells, fatty foods and spicy foods; favour bland foods such as bouillon, consomme, rice and pasta

http://www.blackmores.com.au/Conditions/Detail.aspx?ConditionId=1320

Crohn's Disease

Last Coloum under REMEDY

Eliminate all foods that cause a worsening of the symptoms. The most common culprits are wheat, dairy foods (especially ice cream), spicy foods and fried foods.

AND MORE MORE MORE .......................................

Generally spicy food are bad for digestion and cause disease too.

compleks
Mar-24-08, 01:59 AM
That doesn't really have anything to do with metabolism though.

Rahf
Mar-24-08, 02:03 AM
That does not answer the question what effect it has on your metabolism. What it does suggest is that spicy foods can be a source of different negative effects on your bowel, which I do not doubt.

AjStyles
Mar-24-08, 02:19 AM
But spicy food is still bad for health.

Rahf
Mar-24-08, 02:35 AM
But spicy food is still bad for health.

You won't die or become ill if you eat chili. Unless you have a weak stomach that is. Anything is bad in high enough amounts.

compleks
Mar-24-08, 03:11 AM
But spicy food is still bad for health.

What is 'spicy food'? What is the actual ingredient that bad for your health?

Dragonic MiKe
Mar-24-08, 04:10 AM
What is 'spicy food'? What is the actual ingredient that bad for your health?

Spice.


:punched:

Anonymous
Mar-24-08, 04:20 AM
I have no problems eating spicy food, but just one KFC drumstick fucks my digestion up.

JacktheHero
Mar-24-08, 11:22 AM
"Generally spicy food are bad for digestion and cause disease too."
no it's not as simple as that. the last time I checked most sources said that capsaicin is quite healthy.. (Don't you think I'll read up on possible side effects before buying 500k scoville hot sauce...)
there are some intersting studies to look into, but I have no time now.

AjStyles
Mar-25-08, 02:27 AM
Ok maybe is bad in my country. The wether here is always hot.

jiayo-chris
Mar-25-08, 02:48 AM
Wtf AJstyles?!

Rahf
Mar-25-08, 03:21 AM
Ok maybe is bad in my country. The wether here is always hot.

The countries where spicy foods are common are pretty damn hot as well. India is the most prime example.

jiayo-chris
Mar-25-08, 03:22 AM
Yeah thats, what i was thinking...