Help me out with some stuffs guysssss

[Spiral]

ok well.

I'd quite like to put on maybe 10lbs of muscle in the next 2 months.. Ideally.

I've just bought 5kgs of whey

and i train 3 times a week,

back/biceps
chest/shoulders/triceps
legs/abs

basically when i finish uni in about 3 weeks, untill i go on holiday 6 weeks after that, i'm going to be doing nothing but working, eating and training.

is there anything i can buy, or DO to put on as much fucking muscle as possible?

also do you think this goal is possible?

thanks guize

[tracekillz]

10 lbs in 2 months? whats your build? height/weight/etc.

[Spiral]

6"2'
about 160lbs
6%bf

i'm pretty skinny but have good definition.

oh and my lats absolutley overpower the rest of my build for some reason =/

[tracekillz]

haha fuck. that sounds HELLA skinny. 2 months is pushin it. how much do you eat? whats your diet? fuck man haha..i dont think thats enough time. then again..i'm not an expert.

it took me like..2 years to gain 20-30 lbs of muscle. i'm not sure how anyone else is. maybe i just suck hahah..i mean i was 5'9" 120lbs with a high metabolism..so i suppose i was somewhat similar..but i'm pretty sure its gonna take longer than 2 months.

[mr popular]

Okay here is the plan, eat 5000 calories a day so that you put on around 20lbs over the course of those two months... Inject yourself with 500mg of anabolic steroids every other day, right after your daily 3 servings of creatine and glutamine peptides to help with recovery. Make sure you're taking in around 450 grams of protein daily, and lifting weights with a high volume/high intensity program (15 sets per bodypart, all max weight for 6-12 reps), and get at least 10 hours of sleep each night.

Then you might be able to pull off adding 10lbs of muscle in two months.

Good luck buddy!

[Shaedar]

Eat and train like animal and maybe you'll make it.

[anfeyd]

Do 20 rep squats 3 times a week with your 10RM. Do other compounds with a high volume high intensity. Drink a gallon of whole milk every second youre alive.

[linkrjh]

Okay here is the plan, eat 5000 calories a day so that you put on around 20lbs over the course of those two months... Inject yourself with 500mg of anabolic steroids every other day, right after your daily 3 servings of creatine and glutamine peptides to help with recovery. Make sure you're taking in around 450 grams of protein daily, and lifting weights with a high volume/high intensity program (15 sets per bodypart, all max weight for 6-12 reps), and get at least 10 hours of sleep each night.

Then you might be able to pull off adding 10lbs of muscle in two months.

Good luck buddy!

This made me giggle, which is good cause I'm bored as hell sitting in the DMV. :(

[Rahf]

You will not put on 10 pounds or 4,5 kilograms of muscle in two months. Set a new goal, this is not something to argue about.

[Aiden Bloodaxe]

If you're super efficient & lucky you could gain 1lb per week. Or you could just continue to aim high & show us the outcome after the two months are up. 3-6lbs is more realistic though.

[compleks]

10lbs isn't that far fetched guys. It won't all be muscle (obviously), but it's definitely achievable.

It's only 1.25lbs per week, which could be done.

[Skippy]

I went from 138lbs to 154lbs in 8 weeks, I'm sure you can too. Although what I put on wasn't entirely muscle, I'm sure at your weight (and I know at mine too) you could probably use a bit of fat on you anyway.

For my first 5 weeks I benched, deadlifted, handstands, chin ups, and a few isolation exercises. A good 3500 calories a day will serve you well.

I got a ligament injury thing in the back of both my legs after that, but now that I'm fine, deadlifts will be in there again. Well, to say that, they already are =]

[Aiden Bloodaxe]

Skippy FTW!...I remember going from 8.12stone(113lbs) to 10.2stone(142lbs) in the first 4weeks of my training...Obviously not all of it was muscle & I'm pretty sure I had a growth spurt,I was amazed myself.

[flexibility]

Skippy FTW!...I remember going from 8.12stone(113lbs) to 10.2stone(142lbs) in the first 4weeks of my training...Obviously not all of it was muscle & I'm pretty sure I had a growth spurt,I was amazed myself.

Did you use creatine? When i started creatine i gained like 11 pounds in two weeks and my waist shrinked.

To Spiral:

I think 10lbs of real muscle is not impossible if you eat and train hard. But i think tricker should concentrate to strength training rather than muscle mass building.

I think it would be good idea to set yourself more goals than just 10lbs. Maybe you want to increase your bench and squat 20 per cent? Or your vert?
Inform us how you progress.

Good luck.

[Rahf]

10 pounds of dry muscle mass is an impossibility if you are not on a steroid regimen and even then it will be hard. Stop being idealistic and start being realistic, it will not happen.

[Aiden Bloodaxe]

Did you use creatine? When i started creatine i gained like 11 pounds in two weeks and my waist shrinked.

To Spiral:

I think 10lbs of real muscle is not impossible if you eat and train hard. But i think tricker should concentrate to strength training rather than muscle mass building.

I think it would be good idea to set yourself more goals than just 10lbs. Maybe you want to increase your bench and squat 20 per cent? Or your vert?
Inform us how you progress.

Good luck.
Yeah,I was.Creatine pre-workout & Whey Post.

[Honken]

Instead of 10 lbs in 2 months, try 30lbs in a year.

[Spiral]

none of you helped at all.

I understand that I must train hardcore and eat fucking everything.

How about radical supliments? money isnt an object.

in fact if i could, I'd just get some fucking steroids.

so basically you're all on the wrong track.

[Spiral]

10 pounds of dry muscle mass is an impossibility if you are not on a steroid regimen and even then it will be hard. Stop being idealistic and start being realistic, it will not happen.

yeah and you really are a boring bugger.

[Papa Lazarou]

What do you think people are trying to do when they post? Could it be maybe... that they're trying to help you?!

I understand that I must train hardcore and eat fucking everything.

Then what do you want from the forum? They already told you it's basically impossible. Bad luck - just face the freaking facts and move on armed with good information rather than recklessness.

[Rahf]

none of you helped at all.

I understand that I must train hardcore and eat fucking everything.

How about radical supliments? money isnt an object.

in fact if i could, I'd just get some fucking steroids.

so basically you're all on the wrong track.

yeah and you really are a boring bugger.

I gave you a straight and honest answer. I'm sorry but I can't go around saying that it will be fine and dandy when it really won't. You don't want me to lie, do you?

That reaction is bloody childish.

[Spiral]

I gave you a straight and honest answer. I'm sorry but I can't go around saying that it will be fine and dandy when it really won't. You don't want me to lie, do you?

That reaction is bloody childish.

Sorry, who are you?

[blademonki]

Hahahaha oh man...

[Rahf]

Sorry, who are you?

http://www.kolozzeum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=48400&stc=1&d=1208286073

[JacktheHero]

uh-ah.. it's on: rahf vs SpiraL

[Spiral]

uh-ah.. it's on: rahf vs SpiraL


Spiral wins.

[shengoikee]

haha i love spiral

[Skippy]

Bench press, Squats, Deadlifts

8 sets of 8

twice a week each exercise

monday - bench
tuesday - deadlift
wednesday - squat
thursday - bench
friday - deadlift
saturday - squat

highest weight you can manage for those 8 reps

3500 cals a day at least, alot of protein each day.

Supplements, buy yourself some creatine and some whey / good weight gainer.

[Niko]

Buy some Dianabol tablets. Have about 2-3 a day and train. You could probably gain 3-4 kilos of muscle in 6 weeks.

It sounds like your not very dedicated to weight training so steroids would be a better option. Since you would probably quit after that 6 weeks, and so would any gains made hahaha

[Aiden Bloodaxe]

How much mass do BBs try to gain each week/month/year?

[Honken]

Buy some Dianabol tablets. Have about 2-3 a day and train. You could probably gain 3-4 kilos of muscle in 6 weeks.

It sounds like your not very dedicated to weight training so steroids would be a better option. Since you would probably quit after that 6 weeks, and so would any gains made hahaha

Dianabol tablets come in different strengths, so 2-3 could fluctuate between 15mg-75mg. Methandrostenolone as a sole steroid is pretty useless (in comparison to other AAS). Not using a decent PCT afterwards is just idiotic. In order for steroids to work efficiently, you need to be close to your genetic potential in both strength and weight.

[rock_ten_]

In order for steroids to work efficiently, you need to be close to your genetic potential in both strength and weight.

Why?

[Honken]

Because your first cycles are the most effective ones, so the closer you are to your natural limit before starting then the more gains over it you'll reach when you do.

[DarkXacreD]

Did someone mention plasmavol yet? Just thought I'd ask. XD

[Rahf]

How much mass do BBs try to gain each week/month/year?

If we're talking the guys in the Olympia circuit I'd reckon it's a few pounds.

[StealthyStuntman]

Ok so you want to "bulk" as it were.

Well I would work in the 6-12 rep range (6RM-12RM).

Eat A LOT. Hypertrophy is optimally attained by a caloric surplus.

There's so much more to it but yeah that is the VERY basics.

[rock_ten_]

Because your first cycles are the most effective ones, so the closer you are to your natural limit before starting then the more gains over it you'll reach when you do.

Are the first cycles more effective, though, for any reason other than that they move you closer to/past your natural limit?

[Honken]

I haven't read much in depth, but your body in someway develops a resistance against exogenous testosterone after a few cycles. That's why the first cycles are best and why more experienced users need to be on more complex and heavier cycles.

[Spiral]

Buy some Dianabol tablets. Have about 2-3 a day and train. You could probably gain 3-4 kilos of muscle in 6 weeks.

It sounds like your not very dedicated to weight training so steroids would be a better option. Since you would probably quit after that 6 weeks, and so would any gains made hahaha

I cant be bothered with you fucks anymore.

[Spiral]

haha i love spiral

hiii baby *kisses*

[Niko]

I cant be bothered with you fucks anymore.

You have been on this site for over 2 years now and you still don't know anything about bodybuilding. You are either fucked in the head, dumb or fucking blind. :smile:

Buy some creatine to look fuller you scrawny bastard.

[flexibility]

How much mass do BBs try to gain each week/month/year?

I'm not a real BB. I concentrate mainly to strength training, so my goal is something like 2lbs/month. In terms of strength gains my goal is to add 5-10 percent more weight/week.

[Aiden Bloodaxe]

In order for steroids to work efficiently, you need to be close to your genetic potential in both strength and weight.
You probably can't answer this as everybody is different,but how do you find out your genetic potential in those? Is there anyway/formula to working it out?

[Rahf]

You probably can't answer this as everybody is different,but how do you find out your genetic potential in those? Is there anyway/formula to working it out?

When you're not gaining anymore from training hard and eating properly, that is when you are close to your genetic potential.

[Spiral]

You have been on this site for over 2 years now and you still don't know anything about bodybuilding. You are either fucked in the head, dumb or fucking blind. :smile:

Buy some creatine to look fuller you scrawny bastard.

haha.

this site is for tricking

i bet i could trick circles round you fucks.

EDIT and i know everything i need to know about fucking bodybuilding you stupid cunt, If you could actually fucking read you'd see that i was asking for advice on other methods, hormones, anabolic steroids, whatever.

Lobo gave me the advice i need.

[simon]

You have been on this site for over 2 years now and you still don't know anything about bodybuilding. You are either fucked in the head, dumb or fucking blind. :smile:

Buy some creatine to look fuller you scrawny bastard.

spiralstaticz has been here forever.
and also i know nothing about body building...are you going to call me fucked in the head, dumb or fucking blind?

[Skippy]

Nice gf Simon.

[shengoikee]

spiralstaticz has been here forever.
and also i know nothing about body building...are you going to call me fucked in the head, dumb or fucking blind?

YOU ARNT A BODYBUILDER LOLZ

(that guy is probably one of those completely average build teenagers who think they're 1337 anyway)

the "buy creatine" comment made me lol

[simon]

Nice gf Simon.
towels choose her for me.

the "buy creatine" comment made me lol
a fat guy from my school carrys creatine with him and spoons it into his mouth at lunch...

[compleks]

There sure is alot of hostility in this thread.

Let's hug it out.

[shengoikee]

a fat guy from my school carrys creatine with him and spoons it into his mouth at lunch...

that's a perfect advertisement for creatine! =D

[Skilzat85X]

i bet i could trick circles round you fucks.

This is one of the funniest things I've read in quite some time.

[Aiden Bloodaxe]

When you're not gaining anymore from training hard and eating properly, that is when you are close to your genetic potential.
Would it be fair to assume that Ectomorphs have a lower genetic potential compared to Endomorphs(& meso's)? Or is it all about your genes?..Or both?

[Shaedar]

Are you calling me a lesser man ?

[Aiden Bloodaxe]

Are you calling me a lesser man ?
I'm an ecto too!*hug*

[Spiral]

This is one of the funniest things I've read in quite some time.

You hadnt posted in the thread earlier, so i wasnt referring to you, fannybaws.

[Ernest]

This is one of the funniest things I've read in quite some time.

I chuckled also.

[Rahf]

Would it be fair to assume that Ectomorphs have a lower genetic potential compared to Endomorphs(& meso's)? Or is it all about your genes?..Or both?

Ectomorphs have better genetic potential than endomorphs.

[Skippy]

Ectomorphs have better genetic potential than endomorphs.

Isn't it easier though for Endomorphs to pack on easy muscle over Ectomorphs?

[Rahf]

Isn't it easier though for Endomorphs to pack on easy muscle over Ectomorphs?

"Endomorphs" will pack on more fat per pound gained.

[mr popular]

No actually body morphs is mostly a misleading pseudo scientific theory and does in no way predict a person's potential to succeed at building muscle and it certainly doesn't reveal at what rate they can and to what ultimate level they can reach.

Anyone who says otherwise is just bitter about being skinny and is probably the type of person that will shy away from a buffet because they can't ever eat as much as they even paid for.

[Aiden Bloodaxe]

Ectomorphs have better genetic potential than endomorphs.
What is included when we say "genetic potential"?Weight?strength?Athletic ability?Speed?Power?Blah blah.

[chicanerous]

No actually body morphs is mostly a misleading pseudo scientific theory and does in no way predict a person's potential to succeed at building muscle and it certainly doesn't reveal at what rate they can and to what ultimate level they can reach.

Anyone who says otherwise is just bitter about being skinny and is probably the type of person that will shy away from a buffet because they can't ever eat as much as they even paid for.

Yes, somatotypes are idiotic constructions that were originally meant to correlate personality to body shape and have been bastardized by the fitness community with little non-anecdotal evidence for their current use.

[Rahf]

What is included when we say "genetic potential"?Weight?strength?Athletic ability?Speed?Power?Blah blah.

The potential to put on lean muscle mass.

[Aiden Bloodaxe]

Thanks,but what about the other factors? I can't find any decent evidence.

[Honken]

It's all genetics. You aren't confined to one category.

[Lobo]

Fantastic behavior from Spiral in this thread.