Tricking growing as a viral community

[Reim]

The other day I was watching a documentary about rollerblading, and there was a scene where they talked about how the activity started evolving based on an underground fan base that used sampler-like videos as a medium.

This scene can be conveniently viewed right here:
(please excuse the video quality)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1573619640141062497&hl=en

And then that made me start to think about how tricking has been growing and will continue to grow. It's pretty interesting to see especially since we have a relatively parallel timeline with such things like parkour and freerunning. Which are good examples of how a tiny group of video makers can jump start something huge. The parkour/freerunning bubble has just been getting bigger largely due to the media associated with the activity, not only the activity itself.

This was itching at my mind recently especially due to the PLN Mini-Movie (http://trickstutorials.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42888&highlight=movie), that made me want to meet Chris Devera even more than before, as well as the Loopkicks DVD hyp (http://trickstutorials.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43084&highlight=movie)e. Not to mention all the amazing video makers in the communities who are pushing the quality of the videos that are coming out. I think it's amazing and I hope everyone can see that.

We are possibly on the verge of another chapter in tricking history (a history that I would love to be able to document one day).

[mm tacos rock]

Once tricking becomes mainstream, it's going to suck.

[edit]

Let me rephrase that. Tricking won't suck, it'll just be overrun with an army of idiots.

[Dave C]

Reim, talking about this in public circles will do more harm than good. These are situations dire to people's hearts.

Just make your movies and it'll work out

[BobReturns]

we got a long way to go....ill be long dead by the time tricking is anywhere NEAR skateboarding and I'm pretty young for this community :/

[Nathan.P.]

Why does everyone keep expecting tricking to end up like skateboarding or rollerblading.....

Its too different to end up like they have....

I think its heading towards an awesome future tho...I definitely think Loopkicks are leading the way too. Loopkicks is definitely the best and most respected team in the community.

[TrickerD]

The only things that would happen if tricking goes mainstream is that everyone will be judged on their skill because new standards will be set and etc. Also, people will use more mainsteam music in their samplers which already is common. And that sucks big juicy balls.

[Reim]

Im not talking mainstream/substream, underground/overground whatever.

Im just pointing out as a viral community, influenced by media submitted by the individual enthusiasts, not one entity dictating what's what, we have come a long way.

The rollerblading bit was just something I'm into that had a piece of their history in common with the history we're creating.

This thread is more so about the media we make and how that relates to our community and culture.

[Nathan.P.]

Im not talking mainstream/substream, underground/overground whatever.

Im just pointing out as a viral community, influenced by media submitted by the individual enthusiasts, not one entity dictating what's what, we have come a long way.

The rollerblading bit was just something I'm into that had a piece of their history in common with the history we're creating.

This thread is more so about the media we make and how that relates to our community and culture.

Ahh ok yeah dude I definitely see it growing into something better for the most part :smile:

[BobReturns]

The thing that makes tricking different is it takes much much longer to get better at and talent matters more then it did with skateboarding when you first start. This will make people not want to start it or get discouraged incredibly fast.

[Dave]

We have no equipment involved in our sport.


Let's see them commercialise and sell-out an entire art-form and lifestyle.

[Phalmy]

We have no equipment involved in our sport.


Let's see them commercialise and sell-out an entire art-form and lifestyle.

T-shirst and baggy pants.

$30 wrist warmers.

Rapping and beatboxing never was an equipment sport either.

[Dave]

Not exactly a high specific category; trick-wear.

Music is completely different as you not only don't you have to be an artist yourself to be a part of the community, mainstream-wise, it revolves around money [which I can't see how tricking ever could].

And beatboxing as an art-form is completely dependent on a microphone for equipment. Also, there is a fair amount of important, sometimes pricey things people need to acquire to successfully be involved in the art.

[petebull]

We have no equipment involved in our sport.


Let's see them commercialise and sell-out an entire art-form and lifestyle.

rigth on!! i completely agree!!! haha- there cant be an industry and thats why it wont every me mainstreamed! :wink:

[mogwai]

im not sure that tricking will go this far, but still we are in the beginnign of something big... when I started about 5 years ago there was about 1/4 of this forums members haha

[NinjaMuffin]

ye tricking is getting bigger fo sho but your right, it cant really go mainstream. they can sell us anything at all, like those new ariake free run shoes, they cant even sell us shoes cos 90% of us are barefoot hahaha
i think if tricking went mainstream it would be misinterpreted and we would get a load of that shit on youtube of 10 year old kids bailing a backflip off a wall and calling it "tricking"
tricking getting bigger is fine but do we really want it mainstream? i say NO

[Dave]

As far as the sport itself goes, I am repeatedly amazed at how it just keeps evolving. Skills wise and difficulty wise, it just keeps growing exponentially.

You think there might be a plateau but it just keeps soaring upwards.

I love it.

[Flowers]

We just need more guys like Art MD out there

*I'm a fag for quoting this hahaha look at me I like balls <<<<*

[JiayoJames]

The bigger Tricking gets the better, as far as I am concerned.

The only thing I don't like is when people represent tricking as something that it is not, in order to make it more marketable.

[jan]

We have no equipment involved in our sport.


Let's see them commercialise and sell-out an entire art-form and lifestyle.

Pants, boxers, shirts, longsleeves, singlets, jackets, shoes, socks, hair-wax, video cameras, mats, tape, supplements, hats, caps, tricking knee/ankle-support, deodorants...

[Dave]

Pants, boxers, shirts, longsleeves, singlets, jackets, shoes, socks, hair-wax, video cameras, mats, tape, supplements, hats, caps, tricking knee/ankle-support, deodorants...

But do any of those things not already have a market? And are any of the completely unique and new to tricking?

Plus none of them are essential. If you wanna skateboard, you need a sweet deck, the best trucks, the best wheels, the best bearings, PLUS the clothing/culture which follows it. We have the culture but no essentials.

[slik]

We just need more guys like Art MD out there

*I'm a fag for quoting this hahaha look at me I like balls <<<<*

Sigged! :tongue:

[jan]

But do any of those things not already have a market? And are any of the completely unique and new to tricking?

Plus none of them are essential. If you wanna skateboard, you need a sweet deck, the best trucks, the best wheels, the best bearings, PLUS the clothing/culture which follows it. We have the culture but no essentials.

The lightest pants, the lightest shoes, the most comfortable shirts, the best bandages for your ankles...

Look at martial arts: do you need a gi? Not really. Do you still wear one? Yeah.

Same as skateboarding: Do you need those insanely expensive Volcom/Independent/Dragon/whatever clothes? No. Do you buy them anyways? Yes.

[Dave]

That's what I was saying, the clothing/stuff would be the same but with skating you do need those expensive bearings/etc. [help you with performance, etc] plus sponsors can take advantage of the decks/helmets.

Tricking has clothes, which basically every other activity on this planet has. There is still nothing 100% essential which you NEED before you start tricking if you want to become decent [besides heart].

I think if it got popular, people trying to imitate stupidly would not be able to so trickers would hate them. Plus we would look better than them so the general public would have less respect for them.

Anyway, this topic is pretty silly right now, I think we are safe for the time being.

Love, :smile:.

[zambri]

We have no equipment involved in our sport.


Let's see them commercialise and sell-out an entire art-form and lifestyle.

true, very true. i hope tricking never goes mainstream cause then you'll see random kids trying to 540 because its the "cool" thing to do, not cause they want to.

[Deezy(LoOpk!cks)]

the way i see it is.. it's gonna happen anyways. so it's gotta be us, people from within the actual community, who have to facilitate it in some way.

otherwise people like art md will try n swoop it up and market it in some deviated form. id hate to see sumthing like that happen.

[jan]

Wholeheartedly agree with that. It's definitely better to have someone fit for the job, than some random ass trying to make it big.

[Scooba Dave]

even tho there aren't any pads or anything to wear for tricking, im sure some ass hole company will make tricking 'safer' and parents will probs look into this shit to keep young 'timmy' injury free when he goes to his first tricking 'school'.

[NoMore]

right now, becose me and my tricking friend are n00bs, and all we do is B-Kick and pop 360 and such, ppl think its kind of ballet, or in the best case, capoeira (my TKD instructur once told me that im the dancing martal artits)

but i dont give a dam, im not doing it for anyone but myself, anyone who will start tricking "becose its cool" will probely end up as a quitter cose ppl will think he is a dancing fag

[ChrisMack]

the way i see it is.. it's gonna happen anyways. so it's gotta be us, people from within the actual community, who have to facilitate it in some way.

otherwise people like art md will try n swoop it up and market it in some deviated form. id hate to see sumthing like that happen.

Indeed. Im glad that Loopkicks is leading the way , representing Tricking for what it really is.

I think the problem with mainstream tricking is that people are just to lazy and fat. We my friends ...... Are the elite. hahah:wicked:

[frankinstine]

But do any of those things not already have a market? And are any of the completely unique and new to tricking?

Plus none of them are essential. If you wanna skateboard, you need a sweet deck, the best trucks, the best wheels, the best bearings, PLUS the clothing/culture which follows it. We have the culture but no essentials.

Even our culture isn't only ours, the gay community is nothing new.

[Adam Ross]

*I'm a fag for quoting this hahaha look at me I like balls <<<<*

I highlighted this and laughed alot.
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
like that but more.
ArtMD doesn't know who Matt R is.
Do you think he can tell his Juji from his Jiju?

[Adam Ross]

Wholeheartedly agree with that. It's definitely better to have someone fit for the job, than some random ass trying to make it big.

I vote Jan and NAN.
Even though Jan is NAN.
I CHOOSE YOU JAN AND NAN also Scott cause his states governor is amazing.

[jan]

*DOUBLE FRONT NON-EXISTING BICEP POSE*

[Reim]

Keep tricking in the hands of the communities!!

[jan]

Keep tricking in the hands of the communists!!

FIXED!

[Adam Ross]

*DOUBLE FRONT NON-EXISTING BICEP POSE*

NON-EXISTING BICEP POSE - during the Double front? Or on landing?

[Neil]

Once tricking becomes mainstream, it's going to suck.

[edit]

Let me rephrase that. Tricking won't suck, it'll just be overrun with an army of idiots.


I think this as well Tricking will become over run with idiots and it will be ruined it is fantastic as an underground sport, watching samplers and small little tricking videos is good but i think a full tricking film would just be shit. There will probably become Tricking teachers and lessons at gyms and tricking is just so much better when you learn your self and not learn how to trick like some one else.

[Adam Ross]

I agree with Neil, but the part about learning on your own, i was taught by TeamTF but because its a friend group, thats what i think about tricking, friends coming together to be awesome, attractive and obviously, WELL GOOD!