Running.

[Flipsie93]

Im 14 and the past 2-3 weeks i have been running 3km (i thinks thats like 2.2 miles) every 2nd day on the tredmill and been doing probly around 50 situps every 2nd day and i hav noticed that my tricking has improved a fair bit.. Is this enough?? i do exersize alot like playing sports and stuff during the days also though..

[Kay]

Running wont make you much better at tricking
Tricking will make you better at Tricking

[frozenpeon]

Jogging will not help with your tricking.

Weight training, Sprints and jumps(plyometric) can improve your tricking.

[Kay]

Yeh try sprinting rather then joggin

[Adam Ross]

General cardio vascular excersize, including running is good to not only increase stamina but strengthen your legs.
What weight/size/build are you?

[Flipsie93]

169cm and i weight 55kg and very fit.

[Honken]

but strengthen your legs.

It vaguely helps with muscular endurance, which is pretty much useless for tricking and most sports.

Try intervals.

[Flipsie93]

whats intervals?? and how much should i sprint per day??

[anfeyd]

Die Adam Ross.

[Ben]

running will help, if your fat

[shengoikee]

i ran about 10km recently. it probably wasn't enough because it only took about half an hour.

[Honken]

running will help, if your fat

Sigh....

[shengoikee]

Sigh....

shut up.

[Tossman]

Keep up your running if you enjoy it dude. It probably won't improve your tricks, but it'll keep you fit.

[anfeyd]

It will be detrimental to your tricks, is more like it.

[shengoikee]

exercise is only detrimental if you're an absolute n00b

[anfeyd]

It is well known that LSD is detrimental to strength and power.

I'm not saying that going on the occasional run with turn you into a slug, but if you are doing intensive LSD it will interfere with the force production of the muscles.

[shengoikee]

the studies that show that were performed on n00bs

(who probably can't trick)

[anfeyd]

Any exercise that can be done for an extended period of time does not rely on force production and produces endurance adaptations at the cellular level. Training the aerobic energy system will not benefit the other two.

[Honken]

shut up.

No, cause running won't do shit to your fat levels alone.

[Alexx]

lol !

[shengoikee]

No, cause running won't do shit to your fat levels alone.

did i actually just read that?

[Kitosho]

did i actually just read that?




Why are you being dense? It's true. Exercise itself has extremely little relevance to fat loss.

[Adam Ross]

What the hell? Running will burn fat upto the point you become anaerobic.
Aslong as your not running pushing your heart really hard so below 80% you will be burning fat.

[Skippy]

Honken is pretty correct I'd say. But only to an extent where I'd say it'd be running and whatever your caloric intake or general diet altogether was.

I mean if you're a fat ass, and run, but still eat shit, then well...it won't really do anything =\

I think it goes more on your caloric intakes than whatever the exercise is. Anything that burns calories could strip your fat off.

[shengoikee]

Why are you being dense?

because i need you all to educate me

[anfeyd]

What the hell? Running will burn fat upto the point you become anaerobic.
Aslong as your not running pushing your heart really hard so below 80% you will be burning fat.

It will use fat as a substrate for fuel once you are in a steady state but we use fat as a substrate for fuel just sitting here typing on the keyboard that doesn't mean you're going to lose weight which is what Honken is implying.

[Flipsie93]

so i shouldn't go on 4k runs every 2nd day?? i should sprint how much??

[compleks]

Up to you.
Start light and build up.

Begin with something like 6 minutes (30seconds walking, 30seconds sprinting etc...)
Gradually increase the time.

Or just work hill sprints or something trying to improve your times.

[anfeyd]

so i shouldn't go on 4k runs every 2nd day?? i should sprint how much??

What are your goals?

[Flipsie93]

To improve my tricking.

[koruja]

lets think hipotetacly.
lets assume that i run 3 km in the morning, during the day i do my normal stuff and some light kicking and stretching, i would have a balanced diet, and in the evening i do ten 100 m sprints with 1 to 2 minutes of rest between them.
would a routine like this made me lost weight and improve my tricking?

[Honken]

The running in the morning won't do shit to your tricking (might help with 10 minute non-stop combos, but those are rare these days). Sprinting will help develop reactive and starting strength and power. So yes, sprinting will help.

But it's not like you do a few 100m sprints and nail a triple back.

[anfeyd]

TRICKING IS A HIGHLY TECHNIQUE BASED SPORT. THAT MEANS UNLESS YOU ARE OVERWEIGHT, EXTREMELY OUT OF SHAPE, OR MENTALLY ILL THE BEST WAY TO GET BETTER AT TRICKING IS TO TRICK. STOP TRYING TO TAKE SHORTCUTS. ANYONE WITH LEGS CAN RUN OR SPRINT. RUNNING LONG DISTANCES WILL DO NEXT TO NOTHING FOR YOUR TRICKING. SPRINTING SHORT DISTANCES WILL HELP YOU 'TRAIN YOUR PCR SYSTEM (WHICH WILL DO NEXT TO NOTHING) AND PROBABLY HELP YOUR REACTIVITY/PLYOMETRIC ABILITY DEPENDING ON YOUR STATUS. HOWEVER, NONE WILL ACTUALLY HELP YOU LAND A 540 BECAUSE YOU NEED TO ACTUALLY TRY TRICKS IN ORDER TO LAND THEM. GET OUT THERE FALL ON YOUR ASS, BREAK YOUR ANKLE, AND TEAR LIGAMENTS IN YOUR KNEE. THE BEST WAY TO GET BETTER AT TRICKING IS TO TRICK.

[anfeyd]

lets think hipotetacly.
lets assume that i run 3 km in the morning, during the day i do my normal stuff and some light kicking and stretching, i would have a balanced diet, and in the evening i do ten 100 m sprints with 1 to 2 minutes of rest between them.
would a routine like this made me lost weight and improve my tricking?

WEIGHT LOSS IS DEPENDANT ON YOUR DIET. YOU CAN LOSE WEIGHT DOING MILD ACTIVITY FOR 30 MINUTES TO 1 HOUR AS LONG AS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. :ogre:

[Gravityjay]

Weight loss IS dependant on your diet, this is true. If you have a completely neutral diet in general life (Eating exactly the same amount of calories as you burn.) And then introduce an extra 30 minutes of jogging per day, you are now in a calorie deficit. Hello mild weight loss!

I think this is the point Dave was making earlier. Not many people here are body builders, we don't go through the clean/bulk cycle. If the average person is going running it is usually to help weightloss or stamina. So they won't put in an extra meal on work out days to supplement the loss in calories.


Also a lot of you guys here take this shit way too seriously... If someone won't accept your advice, just deal with it. Using CAPITALS and trying to shout at them on a message board about how you're right and they're wrong just makes you look like a complete and utter retard.


Hi there I'm Jay and I am a calm person :)

[anfeyd]

Weight loss IS dependant on your diet, this is true. If you have a completely neutral diet in general life (Eating exactly the same amount of calories as you burn.) And then introduce an extra 30 minutes of jogging per day, you are now in a calorie deficit. Hello mild weight loss!

I think this is the point Dave was making earlier. Not many people here are body builders, we don't go through the clean/bulk cycle. If the average person is going running it is usually to help weightloss or stamina. So they won't put in an extra meal on work out days to supplement the loss in calories.

Also a lot of you guys here take this shit way too seriously... If someone won't accept your advice, just deal with it. Using CAPITALS and trying to shout at them on a message board about how you're right and they're wrong just makes you look like a complete and utter retard.


Hi there I'm Jay and I am a calm person :)

I'm not serious at all. I'm just trying to get the OP to realize he isn't going to be a good trickster until he realizes what he needs to do to get better at tricking. Two in this thread seem to have the idea that running long distances will improve their tricking, which is absolutely false.

Actually Jay you gave me a brilliant idea!

[Pale Nimbus]

Weight loss IS dependant on your diet, this is true. If you have a completely neutral diet in general life (Eating exactly the same amount of calories as you burn.) And then introduce an extra 30 minutes of jogging per day, you are now in a calorie deficit. Hello mild weight loss!

Not only will thirty minutes of jogging per day require very little energy (unless you are obese) compared to other types of exercise, but after a short period of time the body will adapt to this jogging and not burn any significant amount of calories at all. I think either Honken or anfeyd may have said this in an earlier post already.

[koruja]

sorry if i ofended you anfeyd, i truly see your point, i realize that the only way to get good at tricking is actualy doing it.

my question was more about the weight and the leg power you gain with the training i described, when i asked if it would help my tricking ability i didnt meant to say that you run 10 min a day and you can do all the tricks in the world. what i meant by saying it was if it would make me fit(Im already slim but i would like to lose 3 to 5 kg) and if it would improve my physical ability so i could jump higher, have more stamina so i could improve the power and easiness of my tricks.
peace:wink:

[Flipsie93]

yeah same. i didn't mean it would make me be able to trick i ment give me higher vertical.. like willi be able to jump higher..

[Skippy]

Sprint training will definitely help =]

[CusTuM]

Yea, running isn't going to make you any better at tricking. Admittedly, I have terrible cardio, it doesn't really restrict me from doing any of the tricks or combos I want... unless it's a combo with more than like... 10 tricks.. but I don't really string them together than long anyhow hahaha

Btw, 3km = a little over 1.8miles, not 2.2

[linkrjh]

I run 6 days a week and I still have to diet when I want to lose weight.

[koruja]

thanks for the tip skippy, gonna start training my sprints right now*runs to bathroom at full speed*

[Flipsie93]

so am i. even tho i do anyways :tongue:

[waterboy]

jump rope :)

[DarkXacreD]

just shut up and run your fucking ass off all you want, and do everything else anyways.

[Ashtar]

What the hell? Running will burn fat upto the point you become anaerobic.
Aslong as your not running pushing your heart really hard so below 80% you will be burning fat.You still burn fat when you go anaerobic, the aerobic system is always working, it is just energy beyond that point must be glucose and not fat.