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jhyperflip
May-15-08, 07:48 AM
The other day i'm up at the gym with Danny P. going for my double cork........ well i found out my secret behind a standing cork,

So i reliezed when i go for a double, that i can almost double cork with a speed walk...... but then i can't get all the way around.........(just barely land on knees)

But if i go at full speed with a super hard kick i'll end up doing a double cork 1/2_BACK... so im lost


any tips on getting my double cork landed or should i just go for it all and TRY to get around to attempted triple??

Cory
May-15-08, 07:51 AM
You trick with Dan. He's probably the most qualified to give you that information. haha. idk man, get better air awareness when spinning like a crazy mofo, i guess. :tongue:

Edit: and you should know that you have to post a video mang

jhyperflip
May-15-08, 07:57 AM
ahhh.... shit! haha mmmmmm

yeah dans oppinion is good but you need other judgement to......... scratch that..... other peoples opinions are good too......

Um okay i'll hopefully post a video of it tonight after the gym session. (about 1Am actually....)

Keep helping tho....

Cory
May-15-08, 08:17 AM
I can't dcork for shit. haha. I have weak corks on ground unfortunately.

jiayo-chris
May-15-08, 08:18 AM
I want to see vids!

shengoikee
May-15-08, 08:19 AM
i dunno but maybe if you're flipping more your feet will at least hit the floor first. sounds crazy, i've no idea what you're doing to spin like that haha.

cepopeye
May-15-08, 08:38 AM
no, this is obvious. The doublecork and a half brag is inane, because thats the same as people who can't btwist properly twisting past and almost hitting "two". Getting half a rotation can happen with way less height than getting a landing.

basically, you need more height and more flip. I'd recommend making your single cork better, and instead of trying to twist quickly first and land second, land first and try to get more and more twist out, until eventually cork, doublecork, boxcutter and cork and a half are the same except for how tight you choose to wrap.

The best drill for this i've seen is from Dan Perez, which he calls "Spurring", basically, you do single cork with too much flip onto your butt and back, so its like a gainer full + a quarter flip. This adds a dimension to your cork and shows you/trains you whats missing. Instead of only thinking about your cork in terms of how much spin, think about it in terms of airtime relative to the flip too. If you have extra time after the flip and the twist to stop rotating and land on your back past your feet, then you've got enough time to be thining about doublecorks.

Also, work your boxcutters.

in short, you can't almost triple because you can't double. The thread title made this thread way more infuriating and lame than it had to be

jhyperflip
May-15-08, 08:56 AM
so your saying to triple cork i have to have my double........ wow thats not even right at all. haha idk if you no what your talking about haha thats like saying you gotta no how to backflip before you can cork which is not true because theres lil kids in cali that all they can do is cork.....
and what the hell you talking about?! my btwist is awesome.... i do understand the boxcutter and flip more thing......

anywho ill send videos tonight at the gym......

Capopeye explain alittle more.....

Duke_Hoff
May-15-08, 09:05 AM
Cepopeye is probably saying you probably arent as close as you may think

cepopeye
May-15-08, 09:09 AM
hahaha, ok, land a triple cork without being able to double and i'll sure be proven wrong

jhyperflip
May-15-08, 09:09 AM
To my double i am....... triple im way off............ ill have videos tonight!

jhyperflip
May-15-08, 09:10 AM
hahaha capopeye im not saying ill do it first but i dont think you need a move before you get the evolution do you?

dpitlock
May-15-08, 09:12 AM
Josh hyper corks and corks just perfectly.
But, If he tried for any double cork attempts he massively over rotates and lands on his back or ever farther onto his side.
He pretty much just needs to know wtf is going on in the air.

dpitlock
May-15-08, 09:16 AM
I.E. he is also doing this into the same pit as my triple attempt
Last clip
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shengoikee
May-15-08, 09:17 AM
yo bust a muthafuckin gat to this!

Scooba Dave
May-15-08, 09:22 AM
lol dave.

also, spot ur landing lol.

try double corks more till u fuckin land em. if this problem persists then yes.. make a thread, but if its ur fucking, 4th attempt then stf and go do moar~

dpitlock
May-15-08, 09:22 AM
chyeaa

dpitlock
May-15-08, 09:25 AM
sorry josh has been tricking for like 9 mo.
hes got bad ADHD
he progresses quickly but hes got alot to learn

cepopeye
May-15-08, 12:53 PM
hahahaha faglcok

Kitosho
May-15-08, 01:03 PM
i knmpwposdfv f

Flowers
May-15-08, 01:07 PM
I just realized that standing corks are easy.

Why are double corks sooooo hard

Kitosho
May-15-08, 01:08 PM
I just realized that standing corks are easy.

Why are double corks sooooo hard

they arent!

Flowers
May-15-08, 01:14 PM
I wish I had a place to try them outside of the gym

Reim
May-15-08, 01:31 PM
I wish I had a place to try them outside of the gym

Sand.

But that's the thing, it's been proven by many that Double Corks aren't crazy unobtainable. It's just a matter of how you train/think of them.

G-Dong
May-15-08, 01:40 PM
i can overrotate cheat 7 twists on2 my bak, but i cant land a ch 7 twist, that means i'm capable of CA/FL roll and i should just go 4 that, rite?..............................NO!!!

ur not gonna land a triple cork anytime soon, end of story................

TKD_Andy
May-15-08, 02:54 PM
this was just like the time when i found i could no longer btwist but only double twist! It was really hard because i kept hypering it too and i'd throw a hook kick out of it without meaning to! Can anyone give me tips on how not to do all that?

haha jk.

Anyway, you can always spin further if you just kick and wrap and hold until you crash, its a whole other thing being able to land it. Its like G-dong said, just because you can overrotate something doesnt mean you can do it normally.

TricksterBee
May-15-08, 02:59 PM
It would help if I saw a video..

qwerty the asdf
May-15-08, 03:04 PM
Oddly, I believe that its possible to get triple before double... I've had my own o.O moments

I'm closer to hypercorks and boxcutters than I am to a regular cork. Hell, I was even told I might be able to dub cork when I get my normals consistent. It's mainly because I have a tight twist, causing me to rotate more than I want to. Seriously, I try to underrotate and can't do it. Every cork attempt I try ends up hypering.

Flowers
May-15-08, 03:07 PM
Jake from Team Indy can jstep and get horizontal while spinning twice but he can't cork.

I think sessh said something similar to "It's easy to spin, jump in the air and spinning twice is no problem, but doing that within a move and landing is a different story"

cepopeye
May-15-08, 03:36 PM
SoccerChick2600: Hey! you're Ben from myspace right?

BenjiJTA: Yep lol whose this?

SoccerChick2600: I just added you. You're really cute by the way

BenjiJTA: did you know your name is also a model of the Atari computer gaming system?

SoccerChick2600: ...?

hahaha@!!!!!

Siphin
May-15-08, 05:38 PM
do everything really hard but open sooner

jhyperflip
May-15-08, 06:00 PM
hmmmm i like the idea........ the only problem with when i open up is ill open up at 1 1/2 so it sucks........ um im going to the gym to lift and hopefully get that video tonight so ya'll will see what i mean better

mchitti
May-17-08, 06:43 PM
SoccerChick2600: Hey! you're Ben from myspace right?

BenjiJTA: Yep lol whose this?

SoccerChick2600: I just added you. You're really cute by the way

BenjiJTA: did you know your name is also a model of the Atari computer gaming system?

SoccerChick2600: ...?

hahaha@!!!!!

I love you

Flowers
May-17-08, 06:49 PM
Josh, I will get double cork before you muhahaha

Adam Ross
May-17-08, 08:24 PM
G-Dong was right.
I Told Pitlock to wish on all things.
I can only tell you to do the same.
And you to Ben.

pete_man_man
May-19-08, 05:56 AM
Josh, I will get double cork before you muhahaha

that's what andy ward said!!! (maybe)

AdamSwaluk
May-19-08, 06:25 AM
You need to learn to set properly.

Triple corks = bad idea at this point.

CusTuM
May-19-08, 09:03 AM
no, this is obvious. The doublecork and a half brag is inane, because thats the same as people who can't btwist properly twisting past and almost hitting "two". Getting half a rotation can happen with way less height than getting a landing.

basically, you need more height and more flip. I'd recommend making your single cork better, and instead of trying to twist quickly first and land second, land first and try to get more and more twist out, until eventually cork, doublecork, boxcutter and cork and a half are the same except for how tight you choose to wrap.

The best drill for this i've seen is from Dan Perez, which he calls "Spurring", basically, you do single cork with too much flip onto your butt and back, so its like a gainer full + a quarter flip. This adds a dimension to your cork and shows you/trains you whats missing. Instead of only thinking about your cork in terms of how much spin, think about it in terms of airtime relative to the flip too. If you have extra time after the flip and the twist to stop rotating and land on your back past your feet, then you've got enough time to be thining about doublecorks.

Also, work your boxcutters.

in short, you can't almost triple because you can't double. The thread title made this thread way more infuriating and lame than it had to be

I thought this was perfectly clear, actually.

Spurring also sounds neat.

sebben
May-19-08, 09:04 AM
custom, how bout comming to bergen gathering this year? represent canada:)

jhyperflip
May-21-08, 01:09 PM
Oh god towels haha are we calling something for Midwest?? haha

Flowers
May-21-08, 02:06 PM
This bitch is elusive as fuck

<sky>
May-21-08, 03:31 PM
footage ?

jhyperflip
May-23-08, 11:02 AM
No sky you have to give me all your footage from PLN, and you have to have atleast 300 post to see footage.


thanks towels.......no i got what you meant. i was just asking if you wanted to compete for it at midwest.


dan has my footage of my double cork 1/2_back into rezie.

Fearless
May-24-08, 04:50 AM
i have the exact same thing going on but ive been trying double corks for like a year and ive landed like 5 and one of them i could have swung through but then like 9.99 out of 10 i'll land on my knees :agony: i just dont get it - i need someone who can double cork already to tell what im doing wrong but every time i make a thread i get people saying shit like use your arms and it pisses me off cause i am obviously using my arms - they just dont explain anymore than that

i'll post a vid here soon - please dont give me shit like "use your arms" or "kick harder" because im not a fucking retard, obviously im trying those

jhyperflip
May-25-08, 04:20 PM
hahaha wait what you mean....... im lost....... haha if i kick harder i over rotate the double.......... my double attempts i gotta walk up to in the rezie to spin perfect..... haha yeah i get that same fall to knees problem....... yeah im tricking tonight so i hope to get footage, i mean dans not gunna be there but ill see if i can borrow the gyms camera (i pray i can finally get you all footage

dpitlock GF
May-26-08, 12:16 PM
dan pitlock

Flowers
May-26-08, 01:29 PM
I saw some stuff from you josh. Most impressed!

jhyperflip
May-26-08, 03:08 PM
hahahahaha wooooooooo standing dub cork, i have the same place is my j step dub :D if i trick tonight ull get footage

edit: I love you towels! haha thanks man.
yeah theres a teaser of me dan made a thread about called "Trick Josh, Trick"

Flowers
May-26-08, 06:09 PM
I feel the same. I have just as much power out of a reverse set up than a jstep

Scott
May-26-08, 06:22 PM
From watching your video it really seems like you just need more practice to get better awareness of what's going on in the air. You looked like you could do a lot of great tricks, but when you crashed it was almost as if you had no idea what was going on and just flopped all over the place. Excellent =D

dpitlock
May-26-08, 09:16 PM
josh landed his first double cork, he cant run into it he just takes one big step lolol

he did it out of frame tho hahaha

jhyperflip
May-27-08, 10:30 AM
WHAT?!?!?! I wasnt in the range of the camera?!?!?! AHHHH!!!!

*eats candy (smarties)*

pete_man_man
Jun-03-08, 07:40 AM
i'm defo gonna try a standing double cork

Reim
Jun-03-08, 11:35 AM
I wish I could do these tricks

jhyperflip
Jun-12-08, 07:56 AM
Im sorry to bring back this thread but, I found my in between

While im spinning hard where i use to over rotate my double, i X out at the end which i landed a few times last night! :D

Footage, i hope to get when i get a comcorder! :D

shengoikee
Jun-12-08, 07:57 AM
doublecorkxout

ahaha

jhyperflip
Jun-12-08, 11:04 AM
its the only was to slow it down, but the x out isnt amazingly apparent

Flowers
Jun-12-08, 12:49 PM
I think I'm bound to get dub btwist before dub c twist

jhyperflip
Jun-13-08, 06:32 PM
mmmm if it makes you feel better, i hit my snap.s. and c720 mmmmmm but difficulty with dub btwist.......MG09 we'll have em....... um i think i got the secret to my double cork...... i love you towels!........

Wait shit! you dont have a account now unless you figure out juji's riddle