View Full Version : Backflip easier than Frontflip?
Urban Iain
May-15-08, 08:50 AM
Read the title, it's just because people say backflips are easier and I can already do frontflips on the grass.
Thanks.
cepopeye
May-15-08, 08:53 AM
yes, backflips are easier, frontlfips are less scary when you are scared of backflips
Sakanem
May-15-08, 08:54 AM
Technically backflips are easier (they have a more natural motion to them), it's mainly the fear of going backwards that makes backflips difficult to learn.
I felt comfortable trying a bflip on mats with two spotters on each side. Get two strong guys, they can basically flip you around even if you do nothing ;)
Ashtar
May-15-08, 11:09 AM
I'm pretty scared of going backwards, like I can do a front roll on grass but not a back roll. I recently was able to do that thing on a pullup bar, I think it's called a dislocate or whateverm where it's like a knee raise only you invert all the way, your torso goes paralell then upside down then prone and if you straighten your knees with hip flexed, you can land on your feet the other way around, if that description makes any sense.
If one successively did these faster, do you think it might help get rid of this fear?
I've sort of been thinking, if you began doing these with a jump so that you use your arms to pull you up less and less, and with sufficient speed, would it eventually become a backflip/tuck? Basically, using your arms as a spotter or something, only in a way opposite to how people might spot with their hands during a handspring they'd turn into a flip, because you are pulling yourself up to the bar to get assistance rather than pushing yourself off the ground to get assistance.
The main danger is of course, either hitting your head or legs on the bar, requiring good spatial awareness. I wonder if that'd encourage someone to remain tight though? I dunno. Doing this with rings wouldn't have that risk, but I don't have space for those yet.
Similar to how less weight should be on the arms when you do a 1-hand spring, if someone is jumping enough, they should be able to do this with perhaps 1-arm as well, even if you could not normally hang or flip using just one arm, because it is an assist or something, although it'd probably be good to be strong enough with 1 arm just in case you don't jump hard enough, similar to how it's safer to be strong enough pressing with 1 arm when training handsprings in case of fuckuppery.
Sakanem
May-15-08, 11:21 AM
I'm pretty scared of going backwards, like I can do a front roll on grass but not a back roll. I recently was able to do that thing on a pullup bar, I think it's called a dislocate or whateverm where it's like a knee raise only you invert all the way, your torso goes paralell then upside down then prone and if you straighten your knees with hip flexed, you can land on your feet the other way around, if that description makes any sense.
If one successively did these faster, do you think it might help get rid of this fear?
I've sort of been thinking, if you began doing these with a jump so that you use your arms to pull you up less and less, and with sufficient speed, would it eventually become a backflip/tuck? Basically, using your arms as a spotter or something, only in a way opposite to how people might spot with their hands during a handspring they'd turn into a flip, because you are pulling yourself up to the bar to get assistance rather than pushing yourself off the ground to get assistance.
The main danger is of course, either hitting your head or legs on the bar, requiring good spatial awareness. I wonder if that'd encourage someone to remain tight though? I dunno. Doing this with rings wouldn't have that risk, but I don't have space for those yet.
Similar to how less weight should be on the arms when you do a 1-hand spring, if someone is jumping enough, they should be able to do this with perhaps 1-arm as well, even if you could not normally hang or flip using just one arm, because it is an assist or something, although it'd probably be good to be strong enough with 1 arm just in case you don't jump hard enough, similar to how it's safer to be strong enough pressing with 1 arm when training handsprings in case of fuckuppery.
I see what you're saying
however that method is really risky (due to the chance of you hitting the bar with various body parts), as you mentioned it requires really good spatial awareness, and it probably teaches wrong technique because with your method you rotate exactly around your hips, which isn't necessarily the case in a normal backflip.
Perhaps you should learn a back roll before attempting a backflip? There's no risk involved, unless you suffered a severe neck injury or sth. previously..
Just grab 2 spotters and a mat/ patch of sand on a beach/ soft grass, it's the best method :good:
I'm pretty scared of going backwards, like I can do a front roll on grass but not a back roll.
Haha!
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