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Sudrunk Monkey
Jul-26-08, 12:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yabGIp7BhKQ
I have a basic idea about weights. I've been lifting for a little while, but with very small weights (16-40). I want to be powerful and not at all huge. Weights aren't a big factor in my training, but they are still a factor.
How is my posture? Am I performing the moves correctly? What can I do to make it tougher, other than adding weight and repetitions?
Counterfeit Soda
Jul-27-08, 06:51 AM
You have a lot more to worry about than your posture. That was the most random-assed, unorganized routine I've seen in a while. You picked out shitty exercises, put them in a shitty order, with shitty rep schemes, and did them with very shitty form. Get on a good beginner routine like Starting Strength, or a beginner routine from T-nation (can't be bothered to look one up), and do that, you're NOT at a point to create your own routine.
What can you do to make it tougher? Add weight and repetitions. I don't know why you wouldn't want to add weight, unless you're purposely trying to work out with the goal of not getting stronger.
Sudrunk Monkey
Jul-27-08, 08:00 AM
Thanks! That answered my question. ^^
Though, could you plz explain why it's all wrong?
daviddalo
Jul-27-08, 08:05 AM
slow down on them exercises, too much swing
Sudrunk Monkey
Jul-27-08, 08:27 AM
True that.
Are good mornings meant to be done with the lower body totally stationary?
thereid
Jul-27-08, 09:00 AM
leg extension is worthless.
look up good mornings on google or something to find proper form.
shengoikee
Jul-27-08, 09:05 AM
oh dear lord
read the stickies
Counterfeit Soda
Jul-27-08, 09:37 AM
I basically said why it's wrong really. You're doing a bunch of shitty isolation exercises, just thrown together in a completely random order (exercise order IS important), with a compound exercise thrown in after all of them, with no sort of rep scheme at all. It looks like you've got no goal at all with the lifting, and that you're just haphazardly throwing the weights around in different ways. The form is fucking ugly, largely in part because it looks like you're trying to get as many reps as fast as possible with a laughable weight. Your body is moving all over the place, the bar is going on a different path every time you lift it, you're moving your hands all over the bar WHILE lifting it.
You never answered why you don't want to use more weight.
So like I said, get on a pre-made beginner program, and stick to it.
Counterfeit Soda
Jul-27-08, 09:46 AM
I also find this fairly disheartening, because you've been posting on this board for a long time, and through all the bullshit, there are some knowlegable people who post here, there are stickies right on the top of the board from some of them, and it looks like none of the advice from them was taken at all.
That's something I've always figured happened, which is why I generally don't give detailed advice more than "eat a lot, eat even more, lift heavy shit, do compound lifts, squats, and eat." That's about as simple as you can get, and people still can't follow it, so there's no point in giving any more advice.
Sudrunk Monkey
Jul-27-08, 09:59 AM
"long time"? ... -_- that's a little exaggerated, even for you and the 'thing' in your avatar!
Anyways, thanks all the same.
Tho, what's the point of having a forum, then, if everyone just keeps posting the same mindless posts? Then this is more like a subforum for articles instead of posters.
And I don't see what I like in the stickies, but that could be 'cause I don't understand a single word is being said... I want a functionally powerful body, I don't need excess muscle mass; it's pointless, stupid, and unnecessary to get big muscles if I can't even use them. I want POWER, not just STRENGTH. I work with less weights because I fear of muscle size and aim for quality. I'm a martial artist, and I wanna be the best.
(looks at own vid and laughs) haha, such a noob...
Counterfeit Soda
Jul-27-08, 10:10 AM
Honestly, I don't think there is a point, what's the point of giving detailed personal advice when people can't even follow the simple mindless advice that has been repeated thousands of times?
"Long time" is subjective, sure, but you've been here long enough to have seen the basic standard advice, and it doesn't look like any has been taken. Where has it ever been said by any of the people who have stickies up top that doing TONS AND TONS of reps on isolation exercises with rediculously light weight is the key for improving athletic performance?
-Envy-
Jul-27-08, 10:32 AM
And I don't see what I like in the stickies, but that could be 'cause I don't understand a single word is being said... I want a functionally powerful body, I don't need excess muscle mass; it's pointless, stupid, and unnecessary to get big muscles if I can't even use them. I want POWER, not just STRENGTH. I work with less weights because I fear of muscle size and aim for quality. I'm a martial artist, and I wanna be the best.
(looks at own vid and laughs) haha, such a noob...
What you wrote here is a load of crap. You think skinny twigs are capable of having more power than a muscular athlete? Have you ever seen a top ranked sprinter? They are usually pretty built, and they are basically the definition of explosive power.
Power comes from lifting heavy weights, not swinging around 30 lbs. Muscle gains come from lifting heavy weights and eating a lot. If you keep eating the same, then you will not gain "excess muscle." Educate yourself and stop wasting your time doing this stupid crap.
What the Hell was the point in the first two exercises... (Not the skipping)
Sudrunk Monkey
Jul-27-08, 11:12 AM
What you wrote here is a load of crap. You think skinny twigs are capable of having more power than a muscular athlete? Have you ever seen a top ranked sprinter? They are usually pretty built, and they are basically the definition of explosive power.
Power comes from lifting heavy weights, not swinging around 30 lbs. Muscle gains come from lifting heavy weights and eating a lot. If you keep eating the same, then you will not gain "excess muscle." Educate yourself and stop wasting your time doing this stupid crap.?
Man couldn't fly back in the early ages. Now we just need free tickets to find our happy places, don't we?
You all are just giving me headaches with your "disheartened" and "oh-so-not-rude" comments and advice, 'cause I'm sensing hostility and inimical behaviors. So I'm out of this thread. Bai-bai.
shengoikee
Jul-27-08, 11:15 AM
stop whining, n00b.
Counterfeit Soda
Jul-27-08, 11:27 AM
And I don't see what I like in the stickies, but that could be 'cause I don't understand a single word is being said... I want a functionally powerful body, I don't need excess muscle mass; it's pointless, stupid, and unnecessary to get big muscles if I can't even use them. I want POWER, not just STRENGTH. I work with less weights because I fear of muscle size and aim for quality. I'm a martial artist, and I wanna be the best.
DIET, is the key to bulking vs. cutting. Lifting light ass weights is NOT. The only thing lifting little ass weights will do, is nothing. You might as well quit now if you're so determined to NOT progress.
There are powerlifters who are 180lbs lifting HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of pounds. Do you think they are lifting a 95lbs barbell to train with so they don't gain more weight?
Pyrros Dimas lifts world record weights in weightlifting, is his body full of powerless, non-functional mass???
Counterfeit Soda
Jul-27-08, 11:45 AM
Furthermore, where are all these guys who are thinking to themselves "Jeeze, I fucked up. I've made my muscles grow so large that I can't even use them!"?
stevenadrien
Jul-27-08, 01:27 PM
Furthermore, where are all these guys who are thinking to themselves "Jeeze, I fucked up. I've made my muscles grow so large that I can't even use them!"?
If I could rep you, I would.
Ewasiuk
Jul-27-08, 01:32 PM
"We are heading for tomorrow" :good:. Is that a different cover of the song?
Nicholai
Jul-27-08, 02:07 PM
I understand what you are saying. I train for that as well. Eat a maintenance level diet, then lift really heavy (singles, doubles, triples... blah blah) on deadlifts, full ass to grass squats (no pussy parallel shit), bench press, weighted dips, weighted pull ups, lunges, snatch, clean, etc, and you will be on your way to becoming much stronger relative to your bodyweight.
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Jul-27-08, 02:28 PM
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