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sir tomtom
Jul-26-08, 10:00 PM
this one issue has really held me back alot. it's like as soon as they start the session is over. how can i not get them? some good advice would be greatly appreciated.

Lord Nirmal
Jul-26-08, 11:34 PM
You should be tricking barefoot on grass or gym mats (Unless you're flatfooted). Do you do any running? Shin splints come from shock to your heel and going up to your ankle (and possibly give you knee and hip troubles too), when you land from air moves try landing on the ball of your foot then using your arches to bring down the heel. The ball is designed to take lots o shock.

Rahf
Jul-27-08, 01:23 AM
Rest until your shins are completely fine before tricking.

Ninja_Bob
Jul-27-08, 05:32 AM
It may be that your calve muscles are too big for the tissue sack that hold them in place. My Dad has this problem and is getting surgery where they make an incision on the tissue in front of the shins so that the calve muscle doesn't pull it back on the shin. But this is a last resort option though, for someone who can't get rid of shin splints even from resting the shins for months.

sir tomtom
Jul-27-08, 08:16 AM
You should be tricking barefoot on grass or gym mats (Unless you're flatfooted). Do you do any running? Shin splints come from shock to your heel and going up to your ankle (and possibly give you knee and hip troubles too), when you land from air moves try landing on the ball of your foot then using your arches to bring down the heel. The ball is designed to take lots o shock.

but the thing is i get the splints when i use a punch such as for a frontflip. so my heal doesn't even touch the ground. and i feel the pain when i take off, not from the landing.

and i am on a gym floor or the grass pretty much every time i trick. but i am kinda flatfooted, should i be wearing shoes?

Rahf
Jul-28-08, 03:09 AM
It may be that your calve muscles are too big for the tissue sack that hold them in place. My Dad has this problem and is getting surgery where they make an incision on the tissue in front of the shins so that the calve muscle doesn't pull it back on the shin. But this is a last resort option though, for someone who can't get rid of shin splints even from resting the shins for months.

Sounds abit like compartment syndrome yet at the same time not.

ButtHash Hero
Jul-28-08, 08:27 AM
Do you warm up properly? Try to do some Shin exercises like the one Dogen shows in his conditioning video. ( i dunno if i spelt his name right or not)

sir tomtom
Jul-28-08, 05:48 PM
that might be it. when i'm warming up i guess i dont think too much about my shins.

Joe-FM
Jul-28-08, 06:21 PM
hmm i have sorta the same problem but im SUPER flat footed my "arch" literally touches the ground lol.

sir tomtom
Jul-28-08, 08:24 PM
i am almost the same way. i cant even fit my little finger under my arch.

Lord Nirmal
Jul-28-08, 08:41 PM
Hope you're talking about the arch side thats on the inside of your foot XD. At least you won't be drafted!

sir tomtom
Jul-28-08, 08:45 PM
ya i am. being able to fit your finger under the outside of your foot would be very very strange..

Shikayo
Jul-29-08, 01:45 PM
but the thing is i get the splints when i use a punch such as for a frontflip. so my heal doesn't even touch the ground. and i feel the pain when i take off, not from the landing.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong please, but aren't you supposed to punch with the whole foot when doing a punch front?

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A professional ballet dancer I know kept getting them, despite having brilliant technique when it comes to jumps and the like. So perhaps it might be because of something that's already there, like this calf muscle size thing. In the end, he had to have an operation where they basically shaved off the splints, kinda like sanding down wood with a plane.

Swartz
Jul-29-08, 01:49 PM
I actually got shin splits for the first time last month or so when I was tricking outdoors on grass several times during the week. That's not something I usually do and in the end my shins were screaming at me so I rested a couple weeks and it was all fine again.

Impacts on hard surfaces are the cause. Runners get them, and obviously tricksters who spend a lot of time outdoors will as well, until you build up the strength and get used to landing better.

Don't keep training with shin splints. That's just stupid. Listen to your body. Too many people here just keep trying to train through the pain. Just makes things worse.

sir tomtom
Jul-29-08, 03:54 PM
im not saying your wrong but i dont think punching with the whole of your foot would work outside . so thats why i use use my toes. and front tumbling on the gym floor doesnt hurt my shins so i think ill just keep the front tumbling indoors and ill be fine.

Joe-FM
Jul-29-08, 04:38 PM
This is a picture of the inside of my left foot where the arch is...

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/3973/p1040197ul3.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1040197ul3.jpg)

Lord Nirmal
Jul-29-08, 05:33 PM
Well... at least you don't have inverted arches? Landing with the whole foot would spread the shock over the whole thing and put less pressure on one place.

Rahf
Jul-30-08, 02:13 AM
Try jumping and landing completely flat-footed, does it feel good?

tuareg
Jul-30-08, 02:42 AM
Well... at least you don't have inverted arches? Landing with the whole foot would spread the shock over the whole thing and put less pressure on one place.

in that case you probably never landed on your whole foot before.

wraggers
Jul-30-08, 09:33 AM
shin splints also refers to stress fractures of the tibia (shin bone). it could be compartment syndorome as the gastrocnemius (calf muscle) is in the rear compartment and could be pushing against the back of the tibia which would explain why it hurts on take off as your calf is used in take of, it could also be deeper muscles, i.e tibialis posterior.
two options are best
1. see a physio for treatment and referal
2. x-rays of shins to identify if there are stress fractures. usually requires GP referal

Lord Nirmal
Jul-30-08, 12:24 PM
Mah bad, I meant rolling in the stride on the whole foot not landing, that is a terrible idea (and yes I tried it... just once). http://www.terraplana.com/cmsimages/press/barefoot5.jpg thats how it should be landed. Shins stillhurt since you're still using the muscles in your ankles around the bones where it hurts.

Ashtar
Jul-31-08, 03:09 PM
I find hanging upside down by your ankles stresses the shin-type muscles