How much sleep is too much sleep?

[VietMan04]

because sometimes ive slept for over nine hours, but I still cant bring myself to wakeup.

[iGnition.]

LOL i get that too. Today i slept till 2pm from around 2:30am and I still felt really tired and sleepy.

[Rudy]

when you sleep for a long time and are still tired

that is too much sleep

[Lord Nirmal]

Well you can sleep too much sometimes because your body is trying to make up for sleep debt. Your body keeps track of sleep debt for about 2 weeks.

[linkrjh]

Speaking of, someone explain sleep debt. I've heard there is no way to make up for lost sleep, so it doesn't really make sense to me.

[-Envy-]

I always want to sleep 10-12 hours, but that's too much time, so I limit myself to 8-9 hours. I wish days were 28 hours instead of 24. Then I could sleep as much as I want without missing half of the day.

[glide2]

:music: Oh no it's the midnight hour, don't open the door... don't go to the edge of rainbows, don't sleep anymore, you'll dreeeeeeeam evil :music:

[Papa Lazarou]

I always want to sleep 10-12 hours, but that's too much time, so I limit myself to 8-9 hours. I wish days were 28 hours instead of 24. Then I could sleep as much as I want without missing half of the day.

Go to bed earlier?

Also, I think how you feel when you wake up depends more on which part of the sleep cycle you woke from than on how long you spent asleep.

[Dbtwistma]

well sleep debt is more along the lines of the bodies REM sleep phase. I can't remember how many phases there are in the whole thing but REM sleep is appariently the only phase needed and th ebody will cut out the rest of the phases just for that.

The body requires at least 2hrs of REM sleep. This phase happens according to how much sleep your body is expecting to get.

REM sleep is a must and if you mess up and don't get the 2hrs of necessary REM sleep the body will attempt to make it up the next time u sleep.

Ex. You don't get any sleep one night and you fall asleep the next day your body will attempt to get 4hrs of REM sleep then.

The only thing about REM sleep however is that it's hard to tell when it will occur exactly, but what I do know is that if you are interrupted while sleeping and cannot get the necessary hours of REM sleep the body suffers alot and you're going to be really tired and fatigued because of it.

[chicanerous]

As long as you do wake up, you're fine. Otherwise, :dead:...

[chicanerous]

I sleep ten hours per night.

[Dave C]

Remember folks, it's not the duration of your sleep, it's HOW you sleep

[Steve]

But economically speaking, it is the duration of your sleep.

[Dave C]

Sleep abides by no economic law!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI96e38zMj4

[Jon P]

I was woken up the past few nights at random times.
Each time I had been woken up, I had ended up staying up for a long time then going back to sleep.
This ended last night before going to bed with what felt like an anxiety attack or me going crazy. Then passing out for like 12 hours.
So moral of the story --> sleep.
and don't drink while sleep deprived.
or else you will suffer from some sort of crazy episode.

[VietMan04]

Go to bed earlier?

Actually that doesnt work from my experience. You'll just end up in bed not being able to sleep for a longer period of time because you haven't been awake long enough and your body is not tired.
For example:
I woke up at 11am and got pissed so i decided to go to sleep at like 11pm. That wouldnt work that day because since I woke up at 11am, I would have been awake only for 12 hours by the time I wanted to go to sleep.
Humans should usually be awake for 15-16 hours a day. (24 hours - 8 hours of sleep = 16 hours awake)
My body won't wont to go to sleep until 4 hours later(3am) so that's where my insomnia came from.
What you should do is go to sleep at the normal time you usually sleep so you'll actually be able to fall asleep, but in the morning, force yourself to wakeup earlier so then you'll be allowing your body to sleep earlier.

[Dave C]

Circadian Rhythms are a complicated issue. Evolutionarily speaking, there are morning people and night people - individuals whose brains are adapted to working only during particular hours - because of traditional human social structure. Morning people would be the hunters and gatherers, night people the watchguards and defenses. Most people fit somewhere in between though.

Figuring out what the proper circadian rhythm is for YOU can be a trial and error process, but it should be noted that a truly evolutionarily correct circadian rhythm also has a nap time at about 3 oclock every afternoon included. Hence the tradition of "Siestas" practiced by many cultures the world over.

[Munks]

i heard somewhere its best for you to have 4-7 hours sleep, you just need to get used to it and ull be fine.

Also there was some reasearch that found that the best sleeping pattern was for you to take 20min naps every 4 hours i think it was. Although its fucking hard to get used to the pattern, and can really be troublesome gettin it to work in your set lifestyle (e.g. work), you soon develop to fall into deep sleep (REM?) in them 20min slots and keep your body at high charge throughout the whole 24 hours of each day.

So theoretically you can live on 2 hours of sleep a day :) just u might get bored. haha (or u could train all the time and become the best tricker ever!!!!!)

[palmcron]

The 28-hour day:
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/28_hour_day.png

Anybody ever tried something like this?

[Tocano]

i heard somewhere its best for you to have 4-7 hours sleep, you just need to get used to it and ull be fine.

When you "get used to" 4-7 hours, your body is realizing that you won't be getting enough sleep, so its lowering your sleep need. This means you are weaker, stupider, and heal slower. This is like how your laptop goes into critical battery mode when you're below 5%, and the screen gets really dark and your network card shuts off and stuff. The first few days you become sleep deprived you'll feel horrible, but then your body compensates for it and masks that feeling. You are sacrificing your health to be able to sleep that short a time.

If you sleep in on the weekends and go 12 hours straight, you are sleep deprived. Fri night when you don't set an alarm, your body goes, "hey I can sleep as long as I want," and stops masking your sleep debt. That's why you feel so bad after sleeping for 12 hours straight. You just need even more sleep, and now that its the weekend your body is letting you know.

My psych prof told us that college students need 10 hrs a night to function at their maximum potential. That seems a little high though... most research points to 7-9 hrs being good. More if you're younger, and more if you're very active (tricking). They did a study where soldiers were allowed to not set an alarm and sleep as long as their body allowed them. They all went to bed at the same time, controlled study etc. The first few days they slept 12-14 hours, but after a while that decreased and plateaued at 8-9 hours.

[Tocano]

Sleep abides by no economic law!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI96e38zMj4

That guy is fucking scary.

[VietMan04]

i heard somewhere its best for you to have 4-7 hours sleep, you just need to get used to it and ull be fine.

Also there was some reasearch that found that the best sleeping pattern was for you to take 20min naps every 4 hours i think it was. Although its fucking hard to get used to the pattern, and can really be troublesome gettin it to work in your set lifestyle (e.g. work), you soon develop to fall into deep sleep (REM?) in them 20min slots and keep your body at high charge throughout the whole 24 hours of each day.

So theoretically you can live on 2 hours of sleep a day :) just u might get bored. haha (or u could train all the time and become the best tricker ever!!!!!)

how do you fall asleep if you're "high-charged"?

[Munks]

how do you fall asleep if you're "high-charged"?

Your body adjusts to the sleeping pattern, like when you start to take the 20min naps, your body will knows its only got 20mins so it will shut down really fast and go into REM

Edit: I'm not saying its completely true, i just heard that there was some research that found this was a pretty good way to really increase your time awake.