Questions, and THE OMELETTES

[Konnar]

I've read eating carbs before bed is awful and the other way around. What do you think ?

To what extent would you say PCF ratios are important ? And about nutrient timing : some say it's important, others say it's negligible because the daily calories in vs calories out are what matter, what do you think ?

Omelettes are awesome. I deeply heart cheese omelettes with strong flavoured cheese. If you can get some italian black pepper cheese, it is orgasm. Also garlic, or some onion, om nom nom !

Edit: I forgot to add, these questions apply for someone who is trying to bulk.

[Counterfeit Soda]

I think the most important thing for the average healthy person is to make sure you're getting a good amount of protein each meal. Nutrient timing IMO, is very important for those dealing with weight issues. For someone who's fat trying to lose weight, I'd start by cutting their carb intake drastically, especially in the second half of the day. Most people consume way too many carbs, especially processed refined carbs.

[frozenpeon]

Most people are sedentary.

[Konnar]

Most people are sedentary.

But not us god-touched tricksters and athletes.

Thanks counterfeit. So are you saying the rest is negligible to getting good amounts of protein ?

[Honken]

Why would anyone need carbs before sleeping?

[Dragonic MiKe]

Manny Brown drills sidekicks in his sleep... or so I've been told lol.

[frozenpeon]

But not us god-touched tricksters and athletes.


Exactly

A lot of stuff about health & nutrition you will read on the Internet are written for sedentary people.

Carbs before bed can(or can not?) be bad for someone sedentary. If you are an athlete, you only need to watch your daily calorie intake if you don't want to increase your bodyfat too much.

[Skippy]

In general, I don't think you should care when you eat anything, I mean come on, carbs before bed isn't going to melt you or nothing.

[chicanerous]

Just eat everything all the time.

[[RozoN]]

Carbs being bad before bed is rubbish. Eating before bed is actually a very clever thing to do. Even though you're asleep, you're body is still working and digesting and working those proteins/carbs/fats and what ever else you swallowed.
We all know that when carb reserves are empty, body gets energy from breaking down the muscle mass. So to prevent that, eat a good tasty meal, before going to bed. That way your body has some fuel to work on through the night.

A grown human being should sleep about 8hrs a day. Now think about how many meals you'd consume, if you were awake during those hours. It's actually very common for ppl, who try to bulk, to wake up in the middle of the night, just to eat...

[anfeyd]

Why would anyone need carbs before sleeping?

Because you want a sandwich?


Chicanerous answers all.

[Konnar]

Thanks for the replies. I think I'm going to go with Chicanerous' advice, stuff my face with good food all the time and see how it goes.

[Counterfeit Soda]

;1017467']Carbs being bad before bed is rubbish. Eating before bed is actually a very clever thing to do. Even though you're asleep, you're body is still working and digesting and working those proteins/carbs/fats and what ever else you swallowed.
We all know that when carb reserves are empty, body gets energy from breaking down the muscle mass. So to prevent that, eat a good tasty meal, before going to bed. That way your body has some fuel to work on through the night.

A grown human being should sleep about 8hrs a day. Now think about how many meals you'd consume, if you were awake during those hours. It's actually very common for ppl, who try to bulk, to wake up in the middle of the night, just to eat...

What good does carbs before bed do besides contribute to fat gain? Protein, definately, fat along with protein, fine, but carbs should be reserved to the first half of the day and around your training.

If your a skinny teenager, sure, you can probably get away with eating anything you want, but it's still setting up bad habits for the future, IMO. I used to be able to eat anything I wanted 5 years ago, and at just 23, I'd gain too much fat eating the same way. Part of it is due to working long hours, without as much activity anymore because of it, but that's not the only reason.

[Counterfeit Soda]

But not us god-touched tricksters and athletes.

Thanks counterfeit. So are you saying the rest is negligible to getting good amounts of protein ?

Sorry, didn't see your post, protein is definately most important, whether cutting or bulking. Since I didn't know this was for bulking, I change my answer though. The only meal I would purposely try not to add many, if any carbs to, is pre-bed time. Just make sure you're getting at least 50g of protein a meal, and eat lots.

[Honken]

;1017467']Carbs being bad before bed is rubbish. Eating before bed is actually a very clever thing to do.

Carbs don't do anything but burn for energy. Oh boy I can't get through my sleep, I need some energy!

;1017467']Even though you're asleep, you're body is still working and digesting and working those proteins/carbs/fats and what ever else you swallowed.
We all know that when carb reserves are empty, body gets energy from breaking down the muscle mass. So to prevent that, eat a good tasty meal, before going to bed. That way your body has some fuel to work on through the night.

Eating before bed shouldn't be necessary unless your day consists of eating billions of tiny meals to "help my metabolism". A big meal might only take a few hours to digest, but it takes longer for the body to absorb all the nutrients. You body doesn't just run out of fuel and go into emergency mode when you sleep.

;1017467']It's actually very common for ppl, who try to bulk, to wake up in the middle of the night, just to eat...

Yeah if you're on steroids or a retard.

[Honken]

Because you want a sandwich?

I always need my daily fix of carbs-only sandwiches, they're bitchin'!

[Hobzet]

What is carbs?

[Konnar]

Carbohydrates. Chains of glucose.

[anfeyd]

It's not like if you have fruit before you go to bed you will gain 10 lbs.

[[RozoN]]

To Counterfeit Soda and Honken: I stay corrected then.
Even though I don't completly understand dissaproval towards the carb intake before bed. It's not like we go into Hibernation when we go to sleep, we still need energy. Ofc, not as much as we would, if we were awake, but we still use energy in our sleep. Althoug, as you mentioned, unless you've only eaten bread crumbs the whole day, this shouldn't be a problem.

Anyways, I know what you're guys are trying to say, and I was actually referring to meals, not carbs, in my original post, not that it matters though.

[Patrik]

About the 'before-bed' thing

http://www.sncdirect.com/images/products/snc-600/reflex-nutrition/3525-micellar-casein.jpg

[Counterfeit Soda]

Shiny.

[Konnar]

I've casein, it's annoying not to drink anything 2 hours prior to bed because I mix 25g with 500ml so that it can be chugged down. If I drink anything else, I always have to wake up to piss at night :agony:

[Counterfeit Soda]

Wear a diaper and piss in your sleep. Optimal nutrition + Optimal Sleep = Success.

[Konnar]

Wear a diaper and piss in your sleep. Optimal nutrition + Optimal Sleep = Success.
I've had the idea of strapping a tube around my penis and leading it into a bucket.