hardcore stretching results: nothing

[ninjay]

Ok Ive tried this for about 2 weeks but every night I try to stretch my hamstrings out because I really need flexible kicks. So I do my dynmic kicks and then I stretch each hamstring for about 10 mins with fairly intense stretching anyway my kciks are about as high as they were when I started out whats the deal? Should I stretch in the morning or afternoon?

[joepaxton]

You havn't done any dynamic have you?

[Papa Lazarou]

You should read Juji's flexibility guide, or one of the other threads about stretching =p

[ninjay]

No i have, I do some dynamic at the start

[uFail]

The thing is mate , do dynamics for kick height , and static for... general flexibility? Or just train the kicks , it's sort of like a more straight forward dynamic stretching but not as 'safe'.

[zambri]

You have to have good combination of dynamic and static stretches in order to see results. In my combat classes we prop our legs on up the wall and hold it there and go closer and closer until our glutes are almost touching the wall, after do the other side then go to dynamic.

[Siphin]

i do dynamic after static.. this way i can get my maximum stretched height on the kick and then some.. but hamstrings are just 1 of many different muscles you'll need to stretch to have higher kicks..

[n3m3s1s]

you're doing it wrong!

[Gatsby]

Seems like several people are recommending doing dynamic stretches after their static stretches, which makes complete sense to me. You're at a point where your ROM is at it's greatest, and you can capitalise on this with greater height in your dynamics.

I've only ever done my dynamics for a warm-up (i.e. at the start of the workout) where I have my most limited ROM.

This possibly explains why I've hit a plateau.

[short gorilla]

You've only been doing it for two weeks.

[Papa Lazarou]

Seems like several people are recommending doing dynamic stretches after their static stretches, which makes complete sense to me. You're at a point where your ROM is at it's greatest, and you can capitalise on this with greater height in your dynamics.

I've only ever done my dynamics for a warm-up (i.e. at the start of the workout) where I have my most limited ROM.

This possibly explains why I've hit a plateau.

Well, I find I can reach my dynamic maximum (i.e., the goal of the warm up) very easily with dynamic strethces. Why bother with relaxed stretches first?

[short gorilla]

Short Gorilla concurs. Dynamics first makes a great warm up and you won't have to worry about (possibly) fatiguing your muscles with the static stretches. I think most people who are well versed in flexibility will agree that static stretchin is a bad way to warm up.

[Birch]

You've only been doing it for two weeks.

Short is right, on the basis that he has a large penis.

[Skippy]

If you do something, and it's not working, it usually means you are doing it wrong.

[Gatsby]

I've been doing dynamics for a warm up (I agree, they work great), then I do my static-active/isometric stretches, then I do dynamics again to finish to capitalise on the additional ROM I've gained from the static stretches.

I've only been doing this for a few days now, but my range of movement in the final set of dynamics after everything else was a considerable improvement.

I don't tend to do relaxed stretches, other than on days when I'm not doing isometrics or when my muscles are too sore to undertake any other kind of stretching.

Question: They do say not to continue doing Dynamics once your muscles become tired, otherwise you reprogram your nervous system with the shorter ROM. Does this approach apply to not doing Dynamics at all on days when your muscles are completely screwed from a heavy days training the day before? Or do you find doing some Dynamics is therapeutic under these conditions and will actually loosen you off?

[joepaxton]

Short Gorilla concurs. Dynamics first makes a great warm up and you won't have to worry about (possibly) fatiguing your muscles with the static stretches. I think most people who are well versed in flexibility will agree that static stretchin is a bad way to warm up.

My flexibility isnt great but I definetly agree with the dynamic stretches for warm ups.

Dynamic stretches prepare the muscles for exercise much better as your also mobilising the joint. Also its awesomley specific to tricking as you are actually doing kicks.:smile:

[mrjack92]

I try to do Dynamic then Static...it just works for me.

[Jon P]

HARDCORE STRETCHING!!
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[Ewasiuk]

Don't forget that it doesn't matter how flexible you are, if you don't have enough hip strength it's going to be hard to kick fast and high.

[Martialartsguyfl]

Its probably going to take months of consistent stretching, I stretched 2x a day for about a year and half to get pretty flexible, Now I just try to stretch and do flexibility exercises for 20-30 minutes after my workouts. You have to combine static stretching and dynamic stretching. Also pratice slow kicking movements, etc.

[Hadyn]

Get a decent book like the Tom Kurz one, you've only been doing it 2 weeks and it sounds like you don't know much about stretching so no wonder youve not seen many gains yet.

[CusTuM]

Theres such a thing as over-stretching... which can be counter-productive.

2 weeks isn't a whole lot. Do it right and give it time and results will come.