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Origional
Oct-05-08, 06:10 PM
when done at a 45 degree angle (spinning)


Any way to do it without destroying/hyperextending your knee

It also has to look good

EDIT I am trying to do a h c720 double wheel
I am spinning off axis in order to make it a leaning wheel
when I try to land it feels like a truck is clothlining my knee
how do I do this trick safley?

BobReturns
Oct-05-08, 06:11 PM
http://www.lonelyplanet.com/blogs/travel_blog/uploaded_images/Wat-Blog-4-774447.jpg

Reim
Oct-05-08, 06:18 PM
He makes a valid point.

Origional
Oct-05-08, 06:23 PM
A hyper leaning wheel kick (IMO) is like landing a hyper axe kick off balance while spinning. :P

Every time I try to bend early the kick looses power and looks like shit.

Siphin
Oct-05-08, 06:52 PM
i've just begun doing these actually out of my pop hyper 3's there tough

Skilzat85X
Oct-05-08, 10:07 PM
There is no way to do it right really...

A hook/wheel kick don't really follow a circular arch. It looks that way yes, but the leg is moving from front to back while the foot is extending and retracting. The leg isn't moving up around and down, it's moving across. So no, you're not going to be able to hyper it really...Dang.

BobReturns
Oct-05-08, 10:15 PM
There is no way to do it right really...

A hook/wheel kick don't really follow a circular arch. It looks that way yes, but the leg is moving from front to back while the foot is extending and retracting. The leg isn't moving up around and down, it's moving across. So no, you're not going to be able to hyper it really...Dang.

http://yourargumentisinvalid.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/my_goat_is_pink.thumbnail.jpg

BboyAgua
Oct-05-08, 11:35 PM
http://x93.xanga.com/1a4c77e248235175492788/z133631181.jpg

someone plz link me a vid, i have no idea what you BLARGONS are on about.

frankinstine
Oct-06-08, 12:08 AM
I'm assuming tricks with hypered outside kicks.

shengoikee
Oct-06-08, 12:10 AM
DO I SEE GAY 4CHAN SHIT?!

WHAT A SURPRISE! :smile:

Anubis
Oct-06-08, 12:17 AM
if you try to hyper a wheel kick in any upright spinning trick, you will either fall, or destroy your leg

shengoikee
Oct-06-08, 12:31 AM
if you try to hyper a wheel kick in any upright spinning trick, you will either fall, or destroy your leg

stop giving advice.

Taimatsu
Oct-06-08, 01:14 AM
How the fuck do you hyper a move that doesn't even leave the ground!?!?!?

Anubis
Oct-06-08, 01:15 AM
stop giving advice.

i thought this was tricks tutorials, as in a forum centered around providing information that helps people understand tricks better. plus, the op was asking a question, and i answered it...what's the problem?

Anubis
Oct-06-08, 01:16 AM
How the fuck do you hyper a move that doesn't even leave the ground!?!?!?

what do you mean?

Safari
Oct-06-08, 02:04 AM
Taimatsu has a point.. I don't understand this at all. The only way to hyper I can think of to hyper a wheel kick would be if you did it like a stepover or swing.

Actually I gotta agree with Anubis though.. if you want to hyper it without actually leaving the ground with your non-kicking leg you will just end up killing your foot by smashing it to the ground.

Dragonic MiKe
Oct-06-08, 02:55 AM
I really don't get this thread.

I didn't think wheel kicks were much different to any other type of outside kick, and people hyper outside kicks all the time.

Anubis
Oct-06-08, 03:18 AM
Taimatsu has a point.. I don't understand this at all. The only way to hyper I can think of to hyper a wheel kick would be if you did it like a stepover or swing.

Actually I gotta agree with Anubis though.. if you want to hyper it without actually leaving the ground with your non-kicking leg you will just end up killing your foot by smashing it to the ground.

if that's what taimatsu is trying to insinuate, then it's obvious why he doesn't understand. in order to hyper a wheel kick, you have to be airbourne - by definition of the term. so rephrasing the question to "how do you hyper a wheel kick performed in the air", is redundant because mentioning hyper suggest that the person is in the air already...but since tkt doesn't consider setups he's jumping to the conclusion - which is the kick; instead of considering the how he got there.

Xeult
Oct-06-08, 03:55 AM
are we talking 360cr, with a wheelkick instead of the cr?

Augenatic
Oct-06-08, 04:00 AM
I think we're talking about hyper wheel kicks, in outside kicking tricks.. And no, it's not impossible at all, and also it's not that hard.

Also Xeult, stop posting right now and you'll forever be 666

Skilzat85X
Oct-06-08, 07:16 AM
Yea obviously he's talking about using wheel kicks in tricks which leave the ground...

And like I said before, with evidence, it's not possible. Debate over.

And wheel kicks aren't special they're just straighted legged hook kicks basically.

Less than Dan
Oct-06-08, 07:21 AM
HYPER SPIN HOOK TO CHEAT 360 FULLTWIST

Origional
Oct-06-08, 07:48 AM
I will clarify in my first post

BboyAgua
Oct-06-08, 08:27 AM
DO I SEE GAY 4CHAN SHIT?!

WHAT A SURPRISE! :smile:

I just googled wtf. But just like 4chan shit, all shit happens to be gay.

And yeah I thought this thread was just about regular wheel kicks being hypered. Not moves that happen to include wheel kicks.

Augenatic
Oct-06-08, 09:12 AM
Skilz, watch this, 0:58
kKIhbDb3ti8
It looks like a hyper 360 wheel to me, with a little snap at the end.

Origional
Oct-06-08, 09:21 AM
unfortunately i do not get as much height as kjer

Xeult
Oct-06-08, 10:08 AM
Doesn't Alvin Chan do his 360s with a hook? :eh:

Origional
Oct-06-08, 01:19 PM
"Faggatory levels to high on TT" can get 800 views but nobody can help me.

wtf

Xeult
Oct-06-08, 01:46 PM
Just watch Alvin Kash Chan ffs! There's little others can help you with, seeing as the trick is rarely preformed this way.

Skilzat85X
Oct-06-08, 01:47 PM
"Faggatory levels to high on TT" can get 800 views but nobody can help me.

wtf
What more do you want? I've already provided the solution and the explanation. It doesn't matter how many views this topic gets haha, even if this topic had 1000 views, the only few views that matter are the ones by myself and the others trying to provide insight, ha.

And Augen, that's actually still just a chambered crescent. Done beautifully by KJER as always.

BABYRILLA
Oct-06-08, 03:40 PM
Skilz, watch this, 0:58
kKIhbDb3ti8
It looks like a hyper 360 wheel to me, with a little snap at the end.

if you think that looks like a hyper 360, then you're a dumbass. it's a p3 with a little turn out of it, due to how amazingly hard he's kicking. if you look at this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCo7KyYi4DA), scott adknis does what's known as a tsunami - p3 with a twist kick, kinda like a feilong at 2:19. if he didn't do the extra kick, but chucked it the same way, that would be an example of a hyper wheel kick in a trick and there is no way in hell you can land that without turning the first kick in to more of a crescent. stop trying to refute the truth, close thread.

Skilzat85X
Oct-06-08, 03:49 PM
if you think that looks like a hyper 360, then you're a dumbass. it's a p3 with a little turn out of it, due to how amazingly hard he's kicking. if you look at this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCo7KyYi4DA), scott adknis does what's known as a tsunami - p3 with a twist kick, kinda like a feilong at 2:19. if he didn't do the extra kick, but chucked it the same way, that would be an example of a hyper wheel kick in a trick and there is no way in hell you can land that without turning the first kick in to more of a crescent. stop trying to refute the truth, close thread.
Meh? First of all there's no reason to act all condescending and upset.

Second of all, yes what he does is a Hyper 360, he doesn't quite land on both feet at the same time, either way it carries the same technical value. And it's a Crescent in that kick, of course.

Third of all, I sorta change my opinion ahaha.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8a_UYLQlVE

Seems you can do it if you rotate your hips/body outwards around another 90-180 degrees, into the same position you'd round kick from lol. Silly me!

Deezy(LoOpk!cks)
Oct-06-08, 03:51 PM
hate the term 'wheel kick' cuz many apply it to 2 distinctly different kicks. or even a 3rd hybrid thing.. a spinning 45 degree crescenting hook or a hooking crescent lol

with 'wheel kick' do you mean spin-HOOK ?? or spin-CRESCENT ???

spin hook - hit with bottom of foot
spin crescent - hits with outer edge/blade of foot (sumtimes top of foot)


if you mean crescent then yeah this is doable cuz your hips are headed in position to be alright for the knees. but if you mean hook then no no.. you're gonna hurt yerself eventually.

[RozoN]
Oct-06-08, 03:54 PM
I think people are talking about a spin hook version. Although who know this thread is a total confusion chaos.

Edit: I seem to be awesfully lot confused today. I hope it's nothing to do with me catching cold :eh:

Skilzat85X
Oct-06-08, 03:56 PM
For what I believe we're referring to about Wheel Kicks...

http://www.bilang.com/content/documents/T102.pdf

Note the difference between the arch of the the Hook and what's labeled the Wheel Kick.
Since the Wheel kick doesn't chamber, it goes up in basically a full arch similar to a Crescent, but the body, hips, and leg are oriented the same way as a hook, it just so happens the two kick go through the same arch.

Xeult
Oct-06-08, 03:57 PM
YES! That video Skillz posted! I just couldn't find it, but it proves it is possible to hyper a wheel kick (kicking with the bottom of the foot).

Deezy(LoOpk!cks)
Oct-06-08, 03:59 PM
in capoeira i seen this move where doode throws a standing spin-CRESCENT, and while the kicking leg is on its way down, the base leg doesnt jump, but it tucks. n then the kicking leg hypers safely into the ground.

he didnt jump per say. but he way airborne

whether this applies to the topic, i dont know

Taimatsu
Oct-06-08, 04:16 PM
if that's what taimatsu is trying to insinuate, then it's obvious why he doesn't understand. in order to hyper a wheel kick, you have to be airbourne - by definition of the term. so rephrasing the question to "how do you hyper a wheel kick performed in the air", is redundant because mentioning hyper suggest that the person is in the air already...but since tkt doesn't consider setups he's jumping to the conclusion - which is the kick; instead of considering the how he got there.

Hey, hey, hey now.

Don't be pointing fingers at TKT, buddy. Insult me if it would make you feel better, but TKT isn't incorrect like you believe it is.

BABYRILLA
Oct-06-08, 04:18 PM
Hey, hey, hey now.

Don't be pointing fingers at TKT, buddy. Insult me if it would make you feel better, but TKT isn't incorrect like you believe it is.

anubis got banned, and tkt is shit

[RozoN]
Oct-06-08, 04:27 PM
it's obvious that babyrilla has PMS today, which automatically nullifies all of his posts. :sad:

Dragonic MiKe
Oct-06-08, 05:03 PM
anubis got banned, and tkt is shit

Using TKT is a lot like being gay in the 1950's.

Taimatsu
Oct-06-08, 05:37 PM
anubis got banned, and tkt is shit

HAHAHAHA!

You'd better be as entertaining as Anubis, or I'll get bored. :good: