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Dobi
Oct-11-08, 12:40 PM
Dobis Tricking-IQ-Test (http://daiw.de/trickingiq/en/)

It just takes a few minutes and perhaps it is very easy for some of you. :juji:

Origional
Oct-11-08, 12:41 PM
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Tactic
Oct-11-08, 12:42 PM
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You answered 14 of 14 questions correct.
Your Tricking-IQ is 138.
You know everything but can not do one single trick, do you? ;)

LIES

Sakanem
Oct-11-08, 12:43 PM
Du hast 14 von 14 Fragen richtig beantwortet.
Dein Tricking-IQ betraegt 138.
You know everything but can not do one single trick, do you? ;)

BrandonLenz
Oct-11-08, 12:46 PM
Du hast 14 von 14 Fragen richtig beantwortet.
Dein Tricking-IQ betraegt 138.
You know everything but can not do one single trick, do you? ;)

JA DEUTSCHLAND ICH HATTE GERADE EINE 7 IN MEINE DEUTSCHE ExAM BEKOMMEN! EIN SIEBEN HIER IS EIN EINS IN DEUTSCHLAND!!!!!!

David M.
Oct-11-08, 12:46 PM
131 lol

Matt R
Oct-11-08, 12:49 PM
The last question has nothing to do with tricking, so I did not answer it.

Dark Twista
Oct-11-08, 12:50 PM
Eh, I got 1 question wrong. Balls

Skippy
Oct-11-08, 12:51 PM
You answered 14 of 14 questions correct.
Your Tricking-IQ is 138.
You know everything but can not do one single trick, do you? ;)

nightak
Oct-11-08, 12:53 PM
13 / 14 =D

simon
Oct-11-08, 12:55 PM
fertig

Sakanem
Oct-11-08, 01:00 PM
You answered 15 of 14 questions correct.
Your Tricking-IQ is 247.
You know everything and are probably a tricking god, aren't you? Please let me have your babies.

Origional
Oct-11-08, 01:02 PM
16 of 14 correct
GET A LIFE

zambri
Oct-11-08, 01:03 PM
question 5 is flawed

Torre
Oct-11-08, 01:04 PM
12/14. Not bad :)

Skilzat85X
Oct-11-08, 01:11 PM
12 is not correct.
9 is not correct.

Other than that, quite interesting.

Jon P
Oct-11-08, 01:12 PM
question 5 is flawed

A couple of them are flawed haha.

13) Hyperswipe consists of?
a) Sideswipe+Cork
b) Aerial+Fulltwist
c) Aerialtwist+Sideswipe

Nope, hyperswipe originally = Butterflytwist into a sideswipe. But is easier performed as a "hyper aerial twist", but still not technically sound.

8) Which Trick does not belong to the others?
a) Cheat 720
b) Btwistround
c) Hyperhook
d) c1080
e) 1440
f) 360

Wtf are these about? Cheat 720 is a prereq for cheat 1080. 360 for 1440. btwist round for hyper hook. They are all linked to another.

5) Complete the sequence: Aerial -> Axe2Aerial -> ?
a) Aerialtwist
b) Reverseaerial
c) Brandy
d) Aerialswitch

Is this a question as to what variation would be learned next. If so that is stupid, as not everyone learns the same variations in the same order. For example I learned a brandy after I learned axe2aerial. Some learn reverse aerial. Although I suppose reverse aerial is related to an axe2aerial as they are both "swingthru" aerial techniques.

4) Which Trick does not belong to the others?
a) Tornadokick
b) 540
c) Cheat 900
d) Cheat 720

They all belong to the "cheat trick" category. You need a tornado to have 540, you need a cheat 7 in order to cheat 9. They are all connected.

But cool idea anyways. Just maybe get better questions haha.

Skilzat85X
Oct-11-08, 01:14 PM
Actually, with all the "which trick does not belong with the others", he wasn't talking about Cheat tricks or Pop tricks or whatever haha, it was just talking about those done with inside kicks and those done with outside kicks.

:ogre:

Jon P
Oct-11-08, 01:15 PM
I thought that might be what he meant but I figured that would be too silly.
heh.

Guess not.

:agony:

Jon P
Oct-11-08, 01:18 PM
Somone else who understands tricks better and can phrase shit clearly should make one.
Would be fun.

For example this question would have been better phrased as;
4) Which Trick does not share the same "core kick" as the others?
a) Tornadokick
b) 540
c) Cheat 900
d) Cheat 720

Or maybe questions like, "What is the trick formally known as a "terada swipe" known as today?"
Would be more interesting haha.

Cory
Oct-11-08, 01:18 PM
You answered 14 of 14 questions correct.
Your Tricking-IQ is 138.
You know everything but can not do one single trick, do you? ;)

woohoo!

Sakanem
Oct-11-08, 01:21 PM
A couple of them are flawed haha.

13) Hyperswipe consists of?
a) Sideswipe+Cork
b) Aerial+Fulltwist
c) Aerialtwist+Sideswipe

Nope, hyperswipe originally = Butterflytwist into a sideswipe. But is easier performed as a "hyper aerial twist", but still not technically sound.


since a) and b) are obviously wrong, c) must be correct


8) Which Trick does not belong to the others?
a) Cheat 720
b) Btwistround
c) Hyperhook
d) c1080
e) 1440
f) 360

Wtf are these about? Cheat 720 is a prereq for cheat 1080. 360 for 1440. btwist round for hyper hook. They are all linked to another.



b) is the only inside kick


5) Complete the sequence: Aerial -> Axe2Aerial -> ?
a) Aerialtwist
b) Reverseaerial
c) Brandy
d) Aerialswitch

Is this a question as to what variation would be learned next. If so that is stupid, as not everyone learns the same variations in the same order. For example I learned a brandy after I learned axe2aerial. Some learn reverse aerial. Although I suppose reverse aerial is related to an axe2aerial as they are both "swingthru" aerial techniques.



I think he's referring to the progression Juji suggests in his examplers. Kinda far-fetched explanation though.



4) Which Trick does not belong to the others?
a) Tornadokick
b) 540
c) Cheat 900
d) Cheat 720

They all belong to the "cheat trick" category. You need a tornado to have 540, you need a cheat 7 in order to cheat 9. They are all connected.

same as question 8

Matt R
Oct-11-08, 01:26 PM
Shut up Sakenem you ignoramus.

Dobi
Oct-11-08, 01:27 PM
The last question has nothing to do with tricking, so I did not answer it.
conditioning for tricking ... bla :tongue:

question 5 is flawed
5) Complete the sequence: Aerial -> Axe2Aerial -> ?
a) Aerialtwist
b) Reverseaerial
c) Brandy
d) Aerialswitch
Reverseaerial build op on Axe2Aerial. The others do not. :)

12 is not correct.
why?

9 is not correct.
Other than that, quite interesting.
What is not correct? Dleg is the only Trick without a cheat-takeoff.

13) Hyperswipe consists of?
a) Sideswipe+Cork
b) Aerial+Fulltwist
c) Aerialtwist+Sideswipe
Nope, hyperswipe originally = Butterflytwist into a sideswipe. But is easier performed as a "hyper aerial twist", but still not technically sound.
Ok. i did not know this.

8) Which Trick does not belong to the others?
a) Cheat 720
b) Btwistround
c) Hyperhook
d) c1080
e) 1440
f) 360
Wtf are these about? Cheat 720 is a prereq for cheat 1080. 360 for 1440. btwist round for hyper hook. They are all linked to another.
Btwistround is like Skilzat90X said the only trick with a insidekick.

4) Which Trick does not belong to the others?
a) Tornadokick
b) 540
c) Cheat 900
d) Cheat 720

They all belong to the "cheat trick" category. You need a tornado to have 540, you need a cheat 7 in order to cheat 9. They are all connected.
c720 is the only trick with a outsidekick.

A couple of them are flawed haha.
When you find something in the world you do not understand, you always say that it is flawed instead of trying to understand it? :P

But cool idea anyways. Just maybe get better questions haha.
Somone else who understands tricks better and can phrase shit clearly should make one.
Would be fun.
I'm open for better Questions. :)


For example this question would have been better phrased as;
4) Which Trick does not share the same "core kick" as the others?
a) Tornadokick
b) 540
c) Cheat 900
d) Cheat 720
Then it would be too easy. In a normal IQ-Test they don't tell you the connection between the things. Thats the point that makes such a test difficult. ;)
If there are two answers that do both have a logical explanation, then the Question is wrong of course, but i can not find such a flaw in Question 4.
But that was just a small Project in short time. When you know better Questions it would be great if you could send them to me (including the answers and the explanations) and we can create a better version 2.0 of this test together. :)

Jon P
Oct-11-08, 01:27 PM
since a) and b) are obviously wrong, c) must be correct
It's not.

b) is the only inside kick
I think he's referring to the progression Juji suggests in his examplers. Kinda far-fetched explanation though.
same as question 8

But a trick belonging to another isn't determined by the core kicking skill.
Instead determined by its "category"..."flips-forward, backward, sideways", "twists-aerial, butterfly, cork..", "kicks-cheat, pop, invert..." and then combination of any of the above groupings.
Silly to try and catergorize by the core kicking skill. Obviously everyone can see that a cheat 9 kicks with an inside kick and the others don't. Even somone who doesn't trick could tell that. That is way too easy and doesn't really test your tricking knowledge at all.

haha I just think this would be more fun if we got some better questions.

Jon P
Oct-11-08, 01:30 PM
But that was just a small Project in short time. When you know better Questions it would be great if you could send them to me (including the answers and the explanations) and we can create a better version 2.0 of this test. :)

I didn't mean to offend or anything. It is a cool idea but could have been done a little better.
Maybe I will haha.
Could be fun. :tongue:

C10sed
Oct-11-08, 01:38 PM
14/14

Great quiz, the point of IQ tests are so you look at in what ways the items are similar, and which one is different. If he stated the kind of kick it would be hella easy, and if he asks the question "What was the terada twist", that's just testing, which isn't important to actual tricking knowledge.

Jon P
Oct-11-08, 01:41 PM
14/14

Great quiz, the point of IQ tests are so you look at in what ways the items are similar, and which one is different. If he stated the kind of kick it would be hella easy, and if he asks the question "What was the terada twist", that's just testing, which isn't important to actual tricking knowledge.

I see it the opposite.
and it is Terada swipe...not terada twist haha. And it is now known as a sideswipe. Although a terada twist was a name that people tried attaching to horizontal standing fulls but that never caught on.

Questions like the one I purposed test how much you know about tricking aka tricking knowledge haha. These ones, well really they just test whether you are retarded or not. "what is the difference between cheat 7, 540, tornado and cheat 9?"...hm.

Anyways, I understand what he was trying to do. You don't need to explain this to me. I am simply saying you could form a test that actually tested tricking knowledge that maybe every single person wouldn't get 100% on. That would be fun and actually might be a useful learning tool for beginners / intermediate trickers.

Abrexas
Oct-11-08, 01:42 PM
12/14
124

.. i prolly should have read the post so icould have gottenthose other 2 questions lol

Skilzat85X
Oct-11-08, 01:48 PM
why?


What is not correct? Dleg is the only Trick without a cheat-takeoff.

1) In reality neither of these will help that much with a snapuswipe, unless its a crapuswipe. Only Sideswipe is what you need really, that and maybe, juuust maybe 540 Gyro or Cheat720Twist along with that. But 540 Gyro and Cheat 720 Twist on their own aren't going to give you a proper snapu, they're more than likely going to give you a laid back 540 gyroish crap move haha.

2) A Raiz isn't quite done from a Cheat Setup either, close, but still different in technical value. I'm sure someone is going to say "no skilz it is a cheat setup", cause everyone thinks their doing a Cheat Setup, when in reality if they're doing it correctly, they're doing a slight modification to it. It's slight but it does in fact change the execution of the trick a whoole lot.

I mean of course the answer to that question is OBVIOUS since a Raiz setup is very close to a Cheat Setup, but I'm just being nitpicky. :tongue:

JiayoJames
Oct-11-08, 01:49 PM
You answered 14 of 14 questions correct.
Your Tricking-IQ is 138.
You know everything but can not do one single trick, do you? ;)

I didn't like question 4, as the connection could easily have been about hyper vs normal rather than inside vs outside, which would have made 540 and not c7 the odd one out.

Dobi
Oct-11-08, 01:54 PM
That is way too easy and doesn't really test your tricking knowledge at all.
I was never trying to test tricking knowledge. I designed the test in a way that you don't have to know much tricks and terminology.

1) In reality neither of these will help that much with a snapuswipe, unless its a crapuswipe. Only Sideswipe is what you need really, that and maybe, juuust maybe 540 Gyro or Cheat720Twist along with that. But 540 Gyro and Cheat 720 Twist on their own aren't going to give you a proper snapu, they're more than likely going to give you a laid back 540 gyroish crap move haha.
Ok ok. It's not easy to find Questions that no one will criticise because not all tricksters have the same definition for all single tricks.

2) A Raiz isn't quite done from a Cheat Setup either, close, but still different in technical value. I'm sure someone is going to say "no skilz it is a cheat setup", cause everyone thinks their doing a Cheat Setup, when in reality if they're doing it correctly, they're doing a slight modification to it. It's slight but it does in fact change the execution of the trick a whoole lot.
I mean of course the answer to that question is OBVIOUS since a Raiz setup is very close to a Cheat Setup, but I'm just being nitpicky. :tongue:
Ok, then don't think of cheat setup, but think of one legged jump and two legged jump. :wink:

I didn't like question 4, as the connection could easily have been about hyper vs normal rather than inside vs outside, which would have made 540 and not c7 the odd one out.
Ah, yes. You're right. That's a real flaw and i added the hypercheat900 to the list to correct this.

poliver
Oct-11-08, 01:54 PM
I didn't like question 4, as the connection could easily have been about hyper vs normal rather than inside vs outside, which would have made 540 and not c7 the odd one out.

yes, I picked a 540 on that one :) cause it's the only one hypered kick in there

dpitlock
Oct-11-08, 01:56 PM
he ment by the spin kick one that they are all hooks and the btwist round is a round

Jon P
Oct-11-08, 01:56 PM
I was never trying to test tricking knowledge. I designed the test in a way that you don't have to know much tricks and terminology.



Ok, well someone should make one that does...
If would fun / useful.
Although if it was just about semantics it can go to hell. Because it would only end in 100 pages of debate.

Dobi
Oct-11-08, 01:58 PM
Ok, well someone should make one that does...
If would fun / useful.
Although if it was just about semantics it can go to hell. Because it would only end in 100 pages of debate.
Haha, yeah. This would end terrible. ^^
I like tests about thought more than something that tests learned facts.
btw: i corrected question 13 with your suggestion.

edit: and i corrected the snapuswipe-question with Skilzat90Xs suggestion (sideswipe)
And i added the correct answers with explanations to the score-page.

stefano
Oct-11-08, 02:27 PM
You answered 11 of 14 questions correct.
Your Tricking-IQ is 117.
Its ok.

i fail :agony:

TKD_Andy
Oct-11-08, 02:39 PM
Question 4 is wrong, as the hyperc720 still has an outside kick.

14/14 for me, despite this.

Dobi
Oct-11-08, 02:43 PM
Question 4 is wrong, as the hyperc720 still has an outside kick.
dang, you're right of course. i wanted to type hyper cheat 900. i'll correct this immediatly. : )

edit: ok. corrected. i hope that all bugs are fixed now.

TKD_Andy
Oct-11-08, 02:46 PM
sorry man, i hate to be another one to post something negative!

it was a really good idea and fun to do. Dont be disheartened by people waggling their fingers and getting uber picky (e.g jon P with the original hyperswipe etc)

<3

simon
Oct-11-08, 02:48 PM
THIS IS SERIOUZ

Dobi
Oct-11-08, 02:49 PM
sorry man, i hate to be another one to post something negative!
nono. your post was good and corrected a real error in my question. thanks for that.

it was a really good idea and fun to do. Dont be disheartened by people waggling their fingers and getting uber picky (e.g jon P with the original hyperswipe etc)
<3
hehe, thank you.
no i'm not disheartened by that :juji:
most of the negative posts helped to make the test better.
originally this test was just for the german community.
they liked it and so i decided to translate it to english for the tt-forum. i sould have known that the audience here is much harder to me. but thats ok. that's tt. haha :D

Jon P
Oct-11-08, 02:56 PM
sorry man, i hate to be another one to post something negative!

it was a really good idea and fun to do. Dont be disheartened by people waggling their fingers and getting uber picky (e.g jon P with the original hyperswipe etc)

<3

haha are you serious?
I simply corrected the question, as you did with the other one.

I already said this was nice / fun idea.

Augenatic
Oct-11-08, 03:11 PM
12/14
haha, there should be more stuff like this though, it's interesting! and to me, it's pretty obvious that a reverse aerial is linked to an axe2aerial, much more than an axe2aerial is linked to a brandy/switch/twist - reverse/axe2 are both modifications of the setup, pretty similar ones too (reverse aerial is pretty much an axe2aerial), while the other three possibilities are variations of the aerial itself.

Badams
Oct-11-08, 04:13 PM
for #9, raiz is the only one that is not a kick!!

I demand that you change my grade from 13/14 to 14/14!!

tracekillz
Oct-11-08, 06:10 PM
13/14. that back handspring question was a bit broad

Swartz
Oct-11-08, 10:27 PM
Haha that test sucked! Nice idea though.

Devious
Oct-11-08, 11:38 PM
i cheated lol

Dobi
Oct-12-08, 01:53 AM
for #9, raiz is the only one that is not a kick!!
you're right. i corrected this.

Nice idea though.
thx

Haha that test sucked!
I'm interested in getting to know why you think that. Would you mind telling me? :)

daviddalo
Oct-12-08, 04:15 AM
i love you dobi, i got 14 höhö and i really cant do anything xD

Marodi
Oct-12-08, 08:56 AM
FUCK THIS SHIT! I only scored 9.

Miojo
Oct-12-08, 11:07 AM
well that was easy.

victorm118
Oct-12-08, 12:11 PM
You answered 13 of 14 questions correct.

Your Tricking-IQ is 131.

Haha, now you want to know, what question you answered wrong, do you? :P

I failed at question number 9) =(

saulus
Oct-12-08, 12:19 PM
yes the last question was a bit weird... i thought it was like a transition... you know... aerial-sidesplit...
so i have that one wrong

Dragonic MiKe
Oct-12-08, 12:21 PM
yes the last question was a bit weird... i thought it was like a transition... you know... aerial-sidesplit...
so i have that one wrong

Same. :sad:

13/14

Dang that last question! :ogre:

Colton
Oct-12-08, 12:28 PM
You answered 14 of 14 questions correct.

Your Tricking-IQ is 138.

You know everything but can not do one single trick, do you? ;)

eddy wang
Oct-12-08, 12:32 PM
You answered 10 of 14 questions correct.
Your Tricking-IQ is 110.

I got tricked on the inside and outiside kicks.
Bullshit

jan
Oct-12-08, 01:18 PM
5) Complete the sequence: Aerial -> Axe2Aerial -> ?
a) Aerialtwist
b) Reverseaerial
c) Brandy
d) Aerialswitch

This could mean a difficulty increase in the move, and this is highly subjective. I got aerialswitch and brandy before I got reverse aerial. I also don't do my reverse aerials like an axe aerial at all, as I don't charge my leg before doing it.

Twist-gainer is a combo, not a trick.


Aerial sidesplit - Bhs frontsplit would seem like the most obvious option. Aerials don't train your sidesplits, as you'd do it a lot more like a frontsplit (if you're doing them properly). The question makes it seem like a question of transition, not flexibility training.


Nice test, though you could formulate some of the questions differently. The one I got wrong, was the sidesplit one.

AndyD11
Oct-12-08, 01:33 PM
last question wrong that's it

Evoulution
Oct-12-08, 08:26 PM
awww shit! i gotta 96! man i llok like a noob! ooyea. truth is i never learned things like cheat 9's and so on. not dat deep into trickin yet i guess. my styles more breakin and tumblin. so ONE JUDGE ME!

Rudy
Oct-12-08, 08:54 PM
I'M A FUCKING WINNERYAY!