Maximum range on dynamic stretches

[-Envy-]

I've been doing dynamic stretches every morning upon waking, and I noticed some weird things happening on front lifts.

First, my initial stretches are always really bad. I can barely even lift my leg higher than my waist with a bent knee. Is this normal, or should my initial flexibility be increasing along with my maximum range?

Second, there is always a point where I throw out a big leg swing, and I feel a really strong stretch all the way down my leg. After this, my flexibility is almost instantly doubled, and I can throw my leg up much higher. I'm wondering if this is a normal phenomenon as well.

Anyway, I've been getting terrific results, but I was just curious about these things that I think are kind of weird.

[Franks]

I think, I had something like this. Almost like a quantum jump. Something happens and then flexibility get's better. Almost on the next try.
I can't tell you if it's normal. Maybe there is something that snaps in place or out of place when you do this.

[-Envy-]

That's exactly how it is. I start with horrible flexibiliy, then it stays crappy for the first few swings, and then all of the sudden I get a huge increase in my range.

[TricksterBee]

its probably normal...

[Hite]

I'm really curious about this too! No, experts on this phenomenom?

[Shelz]

Muscle elasticity increases as your muscles warm up. So when you roll out of bed and start stretching, your flexibility won't be as good and you probably won't be able to reach your maximum range because your muscles are cold.
Your second point is a "natural phenomenon" as you would call it lol. (I would try to explain it but I'm crap with words and I'm too lazy to find/take pictures.)

I think your initial flexibility should also be increasing along with your maximum range but eh...could be wrong lol.

[Graber]

I wish u all slow progres and much pain.

[tuareg]

NO PAIN NO GAME

[Origional]

I wish u all slow progres and much pain.
Graber I love you:smile:


I have finally gotten my kicks the way I want them, so I think I can help:smile:. This is what I did for dynamic flexability. Practice strait leg lifts, do fronts, sides, back, crecent(both ways) and knee lifts. Practice these focusing on the stretch until you get them at at least neck level, then switch to making them real kicks.

Once you get your kicks at at least head level learn them with a chamber. You may also want to experiment with some of the other kicks out there.

Then, when you have PROPER technique with all your kicks, drill the living shit out of them:smile:. Personally, I practice all my kicks without a chamber, then with the heviest chamber I can. This allows me ultamate freedom because I can pick and choose how I want to throw my kicks.

Do this and you should be able to just wake up and throw head high kicks cold (like you would need to in martial arts, I would assume). Good luck

[TKD_Andy]

haha so you're asking if you should be more flexible after stretching?

[Papa Lazarou]

Kicks without a chamber? This is madness.

[TKD_Andy]

dynamic kicks dont need a chamber, as they're solely for stretching purposes.

if you chambered it'd completely undermine the purpose of the move

[Martialartsguyfl]

the more you stretch the more you will notice the initial range of movement will be increased and it will take you less effort to get stretched out.

[Graber]

Man here is the thing with the kicks but u will need to have some hamstrings flexibility, add an exercice when u stretch where u hold your foot high (grab the foot and hold with your hand) for a min and u will be able do to kicks that hight and even higer.
And dont tell me that i am wrong coz i can fucking kick up to my ears.

[tuareg]

but can't rich up to your toes.

[Graber]

but can't rich up to your toes.

?? what do u mean?

[-Envy-]

Graber, can you hold your leg straight above your head with a tray of sandwiches balanced on your foot?

[Graber]

..no..

[TKD_Andy]

And dont tell me that i am wrong coz i can fucking kick up to my ears.

youre wrong.

[Papa Lazarou]

Having Ability doesn't mean you have knowledge. But what you suggest probably isn't that bad.

[Ashtar]

I've been doing dynamic stretches every morning upon waking, and I noticed some weird things happening on front lifts. First, my initial stretches are always really bad. I can barely even lift my leg higher than my waist with a bent knee. Is this normal, or should my initial flexibility be increasing along with my maximum range?'Normal' doesn't matter. I would imagine your initial flexibility should increase over time with your range because you'll be looser in general, and more energetic and stronger. Guides usually say to start out with less RoM just to make sure it's healthy before improving it so you may be subconciously conservative about it. That's okay because over time you'll gain more confidence, because 90 degrees will seem less and less the further you go beyond it.

Second, there is always a point where I throw out a big leg swing, and I feel a really strong stretch all the way down my leg. After this, my flexibility is almost instantly doubled, and I can throw my leg up much higher. I'm wondering if this is a normal phenomenon as well. The more you swing your leg, the more momentum you're adding to assist your static-active flexibility in pushing the leg higher. It's not a phenomenon, it's just accumulated force, you're adding force generated by the muscle while stretched and assisted by gravity to fall down to the force generated by your muscle while shortened and lifting it up.

This works in increasing your dynamic-passive RoM but won't help much in situations when you can't rely on swinging to get your kick up, like when you kick from your front leg in a fight, which is what they tend to teach in sparring, especially close range.