Ugh sorry for the stupid question

[BobReturns]

I am completely in the dark about wrap thrus, someone please enlighten a lost soul

edit: lemme clarify i dont fucking know what it is or looks like lol.

[TiVo]

It would help if you can cartfull.

[BobReturns]

No lol what the move even is

[BobReturns]

i dont know what a wrap thru is or looks like lol.

[TiVo]

it is a cartfull only your left leg completely misses the ground. Bascially a fulltwist off of one leg.

For a visual representation, go watch Flow's second sampler, ryan remfer's recent footage, and Ott. They are the most prominent ones off the top of my head that do it.

[Rudy]

hang on...

[BobReturns]

wait isnt that like gms?

[TiVo]

gms is a FLIP. wrapthroughs imply a TWIST.

[Rudy]

i'm making a short video...i'll explain momentarily

[BobReturns]

k thx gaiz.

[DYoo]

do a cartwheel.

now lets say we're going to the left side. so you're right foot lands, your left foot is going to swing behind you so you wrap thru.

gms, foot comes in front of you. wrap thru, behind you.

so after you wrap thru, you jump and wrap, you'll do a full.

[Rudy]

youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMMM0IewEAs
probably not processed yet tho

divshare(streaming):
http://www.divshare.com/download/5839165-fc5


Ok..so what a wrap thru full is, is basically a full twist off one foot. this can be done from pretty much anything that gives you momentum for the trick (i.e. hook, gainer, 540, c/w, sideswipe, etc...) What needs to be done is (i'm explaining as if you spin to the left and out of a c/w) when your right foot hits the ground out of your c/w (or what ever really) then you start your full twisting process... but instead of letting your left foot touch the ground you carry it through (wrap it through) and use it to gain the momentum and full twist like that. It is a missleg full.

any questions?

[DYoo]

yes. the link is not working. why?

hahaha. you explained it pretty well.

[Rudy]

which link?

youtube is processing and i apparently just fail at linking, lol


fixed

[Safari]

gms is a FLIP. wrapthroughs imply a TWIST.

I disagree, GMS is an aerial move..


:: on - Topic ::

What makes a cart - gms twist and cart w/t full is that in a gms twist the "swing leg" [ the opposite leg of what you swing gainers with. ] goes in the back of the leg that's still on the ground [ Take off leg ].

In a gms twist the leg should swing infront of the tak off leg, which make gms twist much harder because it's more unanatural to twist when you swing it that way.

[JiayoJames]

w/t full is not like a cart full where the foot misses the ground and wraps in. It is a full where the foot misses the ground and wraps in... cartwheel is only one of many set ups people use for wrapthroughs, and shouldn't be inherently associated with the move.

[Shear]

I'm actually really happy you asked this question, it seems people have been talking about this move a lot lately and I only had the slightest idea of what it actually was, thanks! :good:

[Rudy]

w/t full is not like a cart full where the foot misses the ground and wraps in. It is a full where the foot misses the ground and wraps in... cartwheel is only one of many set ups people use for wrapthroughs, and shouldn't be inherently associated with the move.

oh you know what i meant, lol

[JiayoJames]

oh you know what i meant, lol

lol I actually didn't mean you, I was talking about an earlier post... probably should have quoted. It would be a bit silly saying it to you, considering all the different w/t fulls you have done lol.

[jiayo-chris]

W/t Fulls are awesome!
James is good at them!

[Rudy]

lol I actually didn't mean you, I was talking about an earlier post... probably should have quoted. It would be a bit silly saying it to you, considering all the different w/t fulls you have done lol.

haha, this is true :wicked:

[Alexx]

i remember mr. perez mentioning wrap twists too, it's like a wrap full but doesn't invert fully i believe !

[Anubis]

wrapthrus only come from inverted moves, otherwise it would be indistinguishable from a missleg

[TiVo]

I disagree, GMS is an aerial move..

Haha. Then you would be agreeing then since I see aerials as flips. Hence why i said that GMS were flips. Aerials can't be kicks or twists...(normal ones anyways.)

[Cory]

wrapthrus only come from inverted moves, otherwise it would be indistinguishable from a missleg

Rudy can do them from hooks and 540s. Neither of which are inverted.

Edit: I think I may have misinterpreted what you meant by this. If you meant w/ts can only be done OUT OF inverted tricks, then my original response applies.

However, if you were saying that only inverted tricks can be considered w/t when the foot passing behind takes place, then this is a slight issue. Mainly because as tricking has been evolving over the past years, terminology (for little to no reason) has changed and been widely accepted. A lot of people will do wrapthru kicks...

The question then is: are they wrong?
Or is it possible that there is a difference (though possibly subtle) difference between misleg and wrapthru. If so, then I would say the difference would be in the movement of the non-touching leg. In a misleg, I suppose it would just stay up. In a wrapthru, it would pull back behind and back up.

Anyways...yeah. Discuss!

gms is a FLIP. wrapthroughs imply a TWIST.

I mainly disagree with this because I believe a "good/acceptable" wrap full must have a decent level of inversion. Maybe not completely vertical, but the hips should at least come over the head a bit.


What makes a cart - gms twist and cart w/t full is that in a gms twist the "swing leg" [ the opposite leg of what you swing gainers with. ] goes in the back of the leg that's still on the ground [ Take off leg ].

In a gms twist the leg should swing infront of the tak off leg, which make gms twist much harder because it's more unanatural to twist when you swing it that way.

While this is technically correct, I must say that I highly disagree with his method of thinking. The reason for this is because it leads to bad GMTs. People start to think that just because their leg passes in front (even if only by an inch or two), that they are doing a GMT. I personally refuse to accept it as a GMT unless the leg pulls up in front and then the other leg passes as in the GMS. Once that happens, then the twist can take place. Basically think flash full from a GMS.

[tricker383]

w/t = wrap throughs = wraping leg around you ie wrap through full :)

[Rudy]

Basically think flash full from a GMS.

this for gms

[Siphin]

these are easier than cart-fulls except i twist to fast so i have no clue where i am..

[gabrielb]

is a wrapthru a tricking term or a gymnastics term?

[Siphin]

maybe both who knows