Gyro question

[NOT Muscle Man]

Okay, so a gyro is defined as executing and extra twist after completing the trick. So a 540 gyro would be a 540 but before you land executing another twist.

The problem I see comes with horizontal moves. And when the twist is performed after coming upright or before.

Example: (I will be using a shuriken cork as a reference move)
Scenario 1: I do my shuriken cork, but before coming upright I execute another twist. So my body stays horizontal the entire time until I land.

Scenario 2: I do my shuriken cork, and after coming up right to land I execute another twist. (This is a the definition of "gyro-ing" a move)

So what would scenario 1 be called? A shuriken cork twist? It wouldn't be a shuriken cork snapu because that would imply a round kick where there is none. If we go with the first method, a shuriken cork twist, then a shuriken twist (shuriken btwist) with a twist performed before coming upright would be called a shuriken twist twist.

Is there a term for the twist I described in scenario 1?? I'm sure Dan Perez has a term for it.

[Dragonic MiKe]

Shuriken double cork.

[NOT Muscle Man]

Shuriken double cork.

I'd agree with that but would that imply an outside crescent after the double cork twist or a shuriken cork "twist"?? (I'm going to use "twist" for now until a better term is used)

[TricksterBee]

why does everyone get technical now with stuff, just trick, dam...

[Dragonic MiKe]

Bah, this came up a while ago when Bubba did the B Twist version.

I can't remember what it got called. :/


why does everyone get technical now with stuff, just trick, dam...
It's called the "General Tricks Discussion" Forum.

This is where we discuss tricks.

[Kyle McLean]

I'd agree with that but would that imply an outside crescent after the double cork twist or a shuriken cork "twist"?? (I'm going to use "twist" for now until a better term is used)

interesting question indeed.

twist doesnt work when you add in vertical kicks. for example the BS900gyro/snapu deal. if some said bs900twist.

or a more common one. when bubba or anis does illusion gyro. or illusion into the double b. that would be an illusion twist...which doesnt not describe the trick.

[Nick Fail]

scenario 1: shuriken cork twist
scenario 2: shuriken cork gyro

A twist is horizontal, a gyro is vertical. Excellent question papa. Call me, I miss you.

[NOT Muscle Man]

scenario 1: shuriken cork twist
scenario 2: shuriken cork gyro

A twist is horizontal, a gyro is vertical. Excellent question papa. Call me, I miss you.

so then a shuriken twist with an added horizontal twist would be a shuriken twist twist?? Or a shuriken btwist twist???


or an bs7 (360hook) with an added horizontal twist at the end would be a bs7twist (360hook twist)??

[DarkXacreD]

Shuriken cork + 1

[Nick Fail]

so then a shuriken twist with an added horizontal twist would be a shuriken twist twist?? Or a shuriken btwist twist???


or an bs7 (360hook) with an added horizontal twist at the end would be a bs7twist (360hook twist)??

I'd go with shuriken btwist twist I guess, sounds stupid but its politically right. and depending on how you did the 360 hook would be the term for it. if you hypered it and dropped your shoulder like an Atwist it'd be a hyper 360 hook twist but if you did your spin then laid back as you kicked with your back to the ground and twisted then it'd be 360 hook twist. Thats a really good idea but DPT can correct me if I'm wrong. I'm probably off on one or two small details. Thats how I see it though.

[Anubis]

Okay, so a gyro is defined as executing and extra twist after completing the trick. So a 540 gyro would be a 540 but before you land executing another twist.

The problem I see comes with horizontal moves. And when the twist is performed after coming upright or before.

Example: (I will be using a shuriken cork as a reference move)
Scenario 1: I do my shuriken cork, but before coming upright I execute another twist. So my body stays horizontal the entire time until I land.

Scenario 2: I do my shuriken cork, and after coming up right to land I execute another twist. (This is a the definition of "gyro-ing" a move)

So what would scenario 1 be called? A shuriken cork twist? It wouldn't be a shuriken cork snapu because that would imply a round kick where there is none. If we go with the first method, a shuriken cork twist, then a shuriken twist (shuriken btwist) with a twist performed before coming upright would be called a shuriken twist twist.

Is there a term for the twist I described in scenario 1?? I'm sure Dan Perez has a term for it.

scenario one is an example of if you gyroing at the wrong time, because the shuriken cork isn't finished until that leg is about to point towards the floor - if you're doing it right. and by that time, you should be upright. there is only one scenario, and the second one is it.

[jiayo-chris]

scenario one is an example of if you gyroing at the wrong time, because the shuriken cork isn't finished until that leg is about to point towards the floor - if you're doing it right. and by that time, you should be upright. there is only one scenario, and the second one is it.

Senario one DOES exist. Your leg can still point downwards without your body being upright.

[Anubis]

...yes, but if that's the case, then he's not doing a proper shuriken cork.

[jiayo-chris]

You don't have to gyro a shuriken cork you can twist it...
watch the anis and tim man sampler, Anis does it with a btwist which is essentially the same thing.

[Anubis]

You don't have to gyro a shuriken cork you can twist it...
watch the anis and tim man sampler, Anis does it with a btwist which is essentially the same thing.

but it isn't the same thing. that was no shuriken twist no matter how many people say that it was. and a twist is a type of gyro, the base part of the trick must finish before the extra spin can be applied. from what anis did, i can only deduct that he did an illusion twist gyro.

[jiayo-chris]

He didn't gyro anything because to gyro you have to be upright...

[Anubis]

He didn't gyro anything because to gyro you have to be upright...

exactly. thanx for proving my point! that is why scenario one is invalid. i love you :juji:

[jiayo-chris]

I don't think you understand what i'm saying...

[pete_man_man]

this is an example of writing a thesis on stuff you really shouldn't care about

[Nick Fail]

exactly. thanx for proving my point! that is why scenario one is invalid. i love you :juji:

i'm going to stop arguing this point but its not because i know who you are. its because i'm not going to explain things again.

[NOT Muscle Man]

scenario one is an example of if you gyroing at the wrong time, because the shuriken cork isn't finished until that leg is about to point towards the floor - if you're doing it right. and by that time, you should be upright. there is only one scenario, and the second one is it.

Senario one DOES exist. Your leg can still point downwards without your body being upright.

...yes, but if that's the case, then he's not doing a proper shuriken cork.

You don't have to gyro a shuriken cork you can twist it...
watch the anis and tim man sampler, Anis does it with a btwist which is essentially the same thing.


ummm, i'm not sure exactly what happened here


the first scenario is a trick, it is not a bad gyro

if anything I'd say scenario 1 is alot harder to land, based on the fact that you cannot cheat the second twist at all because you are horizontal, whereas with the shuriken cork gyro you are upright on the twist, so you can cheat the twist by at least a quarter of a spin by completing that spin on the ground (if you want to) but either way you're going to be landing onto your feet if you do a correct gyro

but it isn't the same thing. that was no shuriken twist no matter how many people say that it was. and a twist is a type of gyro, the base part of the trick must finish before the extra spin can be applied. from what anis did, i can only deduct that he did an illusion twist gyro.

He didn't gyro anything because to gyro you have to be upright...

exactly. thanx for proving my point! that is why scenario one is invalid. i love you :juji:

[pete_man_man]

i am a supporter of aphathy