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Hobzet
Dec-10-08, 09:27 AM
Hello, guys.

Here's the thing: I have stretched in over 250 days every day and sort of got an addiction to stretching. The problem is that yesterday I strained my left groin when I pushed myself too hard. Today just a few minutes ago I had my 60min stretch routine and it hurt like hell. I still did the whole routine but sometimes I screamed in pain. What should I do? I don't want to get unflexible and quit the stretching. I have a goal to stretch 365 days straight and I wanna keep it.

Help!

Yuri
Dec-10-08, 09:34 AM
holy crap, why would you stretch for 60 minutes? and why would you do this while you are screaming in pain

stretching is not that hardcore, and it is not worth risking injuries for. The general rule is in 2-3 months you can reach the maximum flexibility your genetics allows for. after that it is just maintaining it which you really do not have to do that much for.

you should not have to stretch for an hour a day for a whole year

if you cannot stretch without screaming in pain you may want to take some time off heavy stretching. apply your energy towards another discipline for the time being

Aiden Bloodaxe
Dec-10-08, 12:35 PM
Squats & Milk have been helping maintain my current flexibility. I'd like to get my side splits back sometime soon. & yes,Hobzet,you should take a break from stretching you nutter. How flexible are you?

Yuri
Dec-10-08, 12:39 PM
you really don't have to stretch that much. you are wasting your time
you could be a lot more efficient in your training, what the hell, noone stretches for an hour a day

are you trying to get into contortion?

I haven't done any flexibility training in a couple years and can still do a cold sidesplit

Hobzet
Dec-10-08, 01:05 PM
This is how flexible I am today. I know it is nothing special but my muscles is extremly slow!

http://pici.se/pictures/FqBoJZsBR.png

-Envy-
Dec-10-08, 01:24 PM
Where's graber when you need him? He'd get this issue straightened out real quick.

Sakanem
Dec-10-08, 01:26 PM
Unless you want to get oversplits you should be able to maintain your flexibility just by kicking/ tricking... it takes quite a while to lose a significant amount of flexibility

Ewasiuk
Dec-10-08, 01:28 PM
Where's graber when you need him? He'd get this issue straightened out real quick.

Or create a whole new set of issues :ouch:

Graber
Dec-10-08, 01:31 PM
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9371/dsc02546fz6.jpg

Back in Business.

-Envy-
Dec-10-08, 04:07 PM
Hahahahhaha. Problem solved. Close this thread.

Ewasiuk
Dec-10-08, 04:14 PM
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9371/dsc02546fz6.jpg

Back in Business.

Haha this plus your avatar...




















Hahahahahahahaha!!!

Papa Lazarou
Dec-10-08, 04:41 PM
Think for one second haha. Do you really think stretching while in scream-inducing agony will be beneficial?

-Envy-
Dec-10-08, 06:39 PM
hahaha. I'm laughing way too much at this thread. "Hey gaiz, I ript my mussle when I strech, but I wanna streth a hole hour!! help me plz?!?"

Spekk
Dec-11-08, 11:27 AM
holy crap, why would you stretch for 60 minutes? and why would you do this while you are screaming in pain

stretching is not that hardcore, and it is not worth risking injuries for. The general rule is in 2-3 months you can reach the maximum flexibility your genetics allows for. after that it is just maintaining it which you really do not have to do that much for.

you should not have to stretch for an hour a day for a whole year

if you cannot stretch without screaming in pain you may want to take some time off heavy stretching. apply your energy towards another discipline for the time being

if in 2-3 months you can reach the maximum flexibility your genetics allows , how do some people ( like me for example ) do the fucking side splits ???? if our genetics don't allow us to do the splits ......???? how we train ???
My Teacher has told me that is always possible to do side splits at my age ( 17 years old ) ...and i also did the Thomaz Kurz test for the splits and i can do 2 angles of 90 degress ........but ....i don't know xD

You have scared me with the words " the maximum flexibility your genetics allows"

Yuri
Dec-11-08, 12:19 PM
haha, don't take it too literally

almost everyone can get sidesplit, but sometimes there are limiting factors, like hip bones being in the way

but some people are genetically inclined to be more flexible and have greater than the average range of motion

Spekk
Dec-11-08, 01:41 PM
oh uff ......after wrote that , i did the test again with the chairs xD ......i can do more a less 100 degrees with each leg ....and without warm up ...i guess my genetics allow me to do the splits if i train hard :D

Papa Lazarou
Dec-11-08, 05:23 PM
Well as long as you feel a stretch, presumably your muscles are limiting your range of motion...

Ashtar
Dec-11-08, 09:44 PM
Hm, one might think "try front split for a while to see if it hurts less, while your adductors (groin) heal" or somethin'.

Hobzet
Dec-12-08, 10:43 AM
Hm, one might think "try front split for a while to see if it hurts less, while your adductors (groin) heal" or somethin'.
Yes, I guess I am going to have to do that.

AlienWebguy
Dec-12-08, 02:12 PM
It's obvious that you're injured. You can proactively recover or you can re-injure yourself every day. It's up to you.

And to those people freaking out about an hour stretch session: really it's not that uncommon. As a trainer I often take my clients through a 60 minute AIS session as an alternative to their resistance or cardiovascular training session. Get out of the mindset that you're holding stretches for minutes at a time, and you'll figure it out.

--S--

Skilzat85X
Dec-12-08, 03:05 PM
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9371/dsc02546fz6.jpg

Back in Business.

Ahahahahaha.

Ashtar
Dec-12-08, 04:56 PM
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc29/tyciola/TT.jpg

Dave C
Dec-12-08, 05:00 PM
Bahaha TT being down almost made me forget about all the great moonfacings we've had

Yuri
Dec-12-08, 06:40 PM
It's obvious that you're injured. You can proactively recover or you can re-injure yourself every day. It's up to you.

And to those people freaking out about an hour stretch session: really it's not that uncommon. As a trainer I often take my clients through a 60 minute AIS session as an alternative to their resistance or cardiovascular training session. Get out of the mindset that you're holding stretches for minutes at a time, and you'll figure it out.

--S--

it just seems excessive to me to stretch for an hour, especially every day for a year

sean, what type of people do you train? athletes? regular joes?

paulSA
Dec-12-08, 07:49 PM
It's obvious that you're injured. You can proactively recover or you can re-injure yourself every day. It's up to you.

And to those people freaking out about an hour stretch session: really it's not that uncommon. As a trainer I often take my clients through a 60 minute AIS session as an alternative to their resistance or cardiovascular training session. Get out of the mindset that you're holding stretches for minutes at a time, and you'll figure it out.

--S--

I agree with this statement 100%.

it just seems excessive to me to stretch for an hour, especially every day for a year

sean, what type of people do you train? athletes? regular joes?

Like he said above as an alternative for a resistance/cardio session. I do this every two weeks with some of my clients... They love it, some of them once a week depending from client to client and wether they are average joes or not.

Well as long as you feel a stretch, presumably your muscles are limiting your range of motion...

Its not the muscles that limit the range of motion, but genetics and obviously golgi tendon organs...But there are ways of stretching to get past the latter by eg doing some PNF Stretching.

saulus
Dec-12-08, 07:50 PM
ahahahahahahahha

mogwai
Dec-13-08, 03:57 AM
stretch you arms xD

Papa Lazarou
Dec-13-08, 04:06 AM
Its not the muscles that limit the range of motion, but genetics and obviously golgi tendon organs...But there are ways of stretching to get past the latter by eg doing some PNF Stretching.

i.e., I'm right? (olololol?)

I just meant that if you feel a strerch (in the muscle), you've probably not reached your anatomical limit.

And don't forget the muscle spindles!






...actually I'm largely ignorant.

Aiden Bloodaxe
Dec-13-08, 04:35 AM
I think Hozbet should read Papa Lazarou's sig.

paulSA
Dec-13-08, 05:22 AM
...actually I'm largely ignorant.

hahahahaha, ya right :P....

yes you were right, but not completely, just felt i had to correct you lol

AlienWebguy
Dec-13-08, 03:34 PM
it just seems excessive to me to stretch for an hour, especially every day for a year

sean, what type of people do you train? athletes? regular joes?

I train athletes and regular joes. I don't think it's excessive to stretch for an hour, and actually many times I find an hour cuts my assisted stretch session short. Doing an hour long stretch session every day for a year could be excessive unless it's controlled and gradually enhanced, which I'd guess is not the case since he's screaming in pain :wink:. I mean, there are people who do yoga practically every day of their adult lives and they're some of the healthiest and most flexible people in the world.

Just think differently about stretching and you'll see how it can take a while. Like, I stretch distal to proximal and superficial to deep. So I'll stretch the hamstring insertion points, and then I'll do a totally different stretch for the origin. You can even isolate biceps femoris and the semitendinosus/semimembranosus adductor complex by simply externally or internally rotating the hip before the stretch. Hamstrings alone can take 15-20 minutes. Then you have the illiotibal fascia, the glut medius, glut max, adductors, etc, lower erector spinae, and while they're supine you can stretch their capitis and multifidus muscles in their back by assisting a chin-tuck, etc. Then they go prone and you work their quads, psoas, etc. Then they can sit upright, and you can stretch their pec major, minor and anterior delts, then their triceps and biceps, lats, rhomboids, traps, scalenes, etc. This is just all off the top of my head dude. 10x 1-2 second reps per muscle or per stretch if there are multiple stretches per muscle like the hams and quads. Hope that helps clarify how stretching can take a while.

--S--

Yuri
Dec-13-08, 04:49 PM
yes it does clarify, I can see where you are coming from now

thank you

jan
Dec-13-08, 07:34 PM
10x1-2 second stretches? That seems short.
I've always followed the guideline of never stretching less than 30 seconds, but never more than 2 minutes at a time before resting. Worked wonders for me, at least.

Aiden Bloodaxe
Dec-13-08, 09:01 PM
& your sexy avatar is proof!

AlienWebguy
Dec-13-08, 09:55 PM
That's active isolated stretching guidelines, nice explanation Sean Sir!

Thanks!

-Envy-
Dec-14-08, 01:39 AM
You guys, stop getting off topic here. We should all be having a good laugh at this picture, not discussing stretching.

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9371/dsc02546fz6.jpg

Back in Business.

hahhahahahahhaha

Aiden Bloodaxe
Dec-14-08, 04:59 AM
hahahaha. I have creatine in my coffee..

uFail
Dec-14-08, 01:15 PM
Graber is a legend amongst the flexibility forums. I salute to you!

540Ninja
Dec-14-08, 06:21 PM
That's because Graber only posts in the flexibility forums. I'm not saying theres anything wrong with that. (Except for the fact this is a tricking forum and from what I can tell Graber doesn't trick)

Swartz
Dec-14-08, 07:09 PM
He's basically a legend outside of it too just because people know about him even without visiting the flexibility forum much (like me).

540Ninja
Dec-14-08, 07:18 PM
He's basically a legend outside of it too just because people know about him even without visited the flexibility forum much (like me).

Me too, I rarely visit this subforum, and I know all about his antics on the forums.

Swartz
Dec-14-08, 07:50 PM
To be honest, the only reason I'm visiting now is because I can't get enough of this thread and it's new title.

AlienWebguy
Dec-14-08, 10:11 PM
Swartz....you have 100,220 posts..?

What the hell man?

Swartz
Dec-14-08, 10:19 PM
Swartz....you have 100,220 posts..?

What the hell man?

You should ask Juji about that. No nevermind he'd probably try to convince you I really made that many. The truth is he decided to add like over 90,000 one day as a prank of sorts. Now I deal with a random "wtf how" here and there.

Graber
Dec-15-08, 08:06 AM
Dude u got 100000 posts! I think u have cracked your fingers on the fucking keyboard.

Hez
Dec-15-08, 09:28 AM
Swartz is quite the potent poster.

Augenatic
Dec-15-08, 12:16 PM
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9371/dsc02546fz6.jpg

Back in Business.

hahhaahahha

Manden
Dec-15-08, 01:41 PM
hahhaahahha

we need a sampler of this Graber legend!

Swartz
Dec-16-08, 12:00 AM
Dude u got 100000 posts! I think u have cracked your fingers on the fucking keyboard.


*facepalm*

uFail
Dec-16-08, 03:41 AM
:good::good:

Graber
Dec-17-08, 09:51 AM
Man if u dont allow me to change my profile i will show u my BALLS.

540Ninja
Dec-17-08, 12:21 PM
Nutz Graber

Swartz
Dec-17-08, 12:23 PM
I really wish Graber would stop teasing us and just show them off already.

Graber
Dec-17-08, 12:32 PM
Man are u fucking crazy? I already showed them on GSA on a game lobby in the past. I have no problem with that maybe i will get banned i dont care.

Swartz
Dec-17-08, 12:32 PM
Nonsense.

Maybe you could even treat us to nude splits with your BALLS in plain view.

Graber
Dec-17-08, 12:37 PM
Myabe i will show u and with that i will prove that ppl who can split still have balls.

Swartz
Dec-17-08, 07:35 PM
Yeah!

540Ninja
Dec-17-08, 07:35 PM
Graber, I have always wondered, why do you stretch? Do you do any activity that requires you to be flexible? Or do you just dominate splits just to do it?

Pot
Dec-17-08, 11:58 PM
holy crap, why would you stretch for 60 minutes? and why would you do this while you are screaming in pain

stretching is not that hardcore, and it is not worth risking injuries for. The general rule is in 2-3 months you can reach the maximum flexibility your genetics allows for. after that it is just maintaining it which you really do not have to do that much for.

you should not have to stretch for an hour a day for a whole year

if you cannot stretch without screaming in pain you may want to take some time off heavy stretching. apply your energy towards another discipline for the time being



yuri u dissopoint me here, i did not read ur whole replie but all i had to do was it did not say squats and milk... WORK ON IT BUDDY!

Crazy Max
Dec-18-08, 04:57 AM
Graber, I have always wondered, why do you stretch? Do you do any activity that requires you to be flexible? Or do you just dominate splits just to do it?

He stretches to free his balls!

Ashtar
Dec-18-08, 04:50 PM
I don't think the gonads connect to the adductors.
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc29/tyciola/Comparison.jpg

Graber
Dec-19-08, 06:31 AM
I don't think the gonads connect to the adductors.
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc29/tyciola/Comparison.jpg

Somebody call for an exterminator?

frozenpeon
Dec-19-08, 06:40 AM
Somebody call for an exterminator?

Thats what ghosts in starcraft say when you select them.

Graber
Dec-19-08, 08:59 AM
Your wrong is when u recruit them.

Ashtar
Dec-19-08, 12:56 PM
I think it's more proper to say when you 'train' them. Technically they're 'recruited' the second you spend your minerals and vespene gas (100/50 isn't it?) and 2 supply to begin the training, and when they pop out of the barracks fully trained that's when they say it.

Seriously the coolest unit in the whole game. About the most badass thing you could be IRL if you think about it. Snipers, like Golgo 13, crap.

AlienWebguy
Dec-19-08, 09:45 PM
Way to stay on topic.

Graber
Dec-20-08, 05:43 AM
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9371/dsc02546fz6.jpg

I got balls of steel.

Birch
Dec-20-08, 05:57 AM
This thread is misleading, where are the huge cocks? Oh wait... Graber is here!

saulus
Dec-20-08, 06:09 AM
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9371/dsc02546fz6.jpg

I got balls of steel.

best game in the world!!
best game i ever played!!

Ashtar
Dec-20-08, 09:34 AM
Graber13.
http://www.dvdrama.com/imagescrit2/g/o/l/golgo13animehaut.jpg
http://www.inetres.com/gp/anime/g13/g13_05.jpg

dpitlock
Dec-22-08, 08:19 AM
graber lmfao

Pot
Dec-22-08, 04:51 PM
GRABER GRABER GRABER GRABER DOES SPLITS GRABER GRABER GRABER GRABER


GO GRABER, USE YOUR SPLITS ATT.

GRABER, COUNTER HIS SPLIT ATTACK WITH YOUR SPLITS ATT. GRABER!!!!

Kitosho
Dec-22-08, 05:15 PM
graber more like gayber am i right

Graber
Dec-23-08, 03:35 AM
graber more like gayber am i right

fuck u, dont try to be funny with me u noob

Pot
Dec-23-08, 10:18 AM
Hmmmm lets see.

Kitosho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plku6kcDPgU



Grabber
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk1UswlPd80


GRABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRhahahahaahahahahahahahaha

Hez
Dec-23-08, 10:24 AM
Don't listen to them Graber, i think you're cool

Graber
Dec-23-08, 03:47 PM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yu89YrTqe4E&feature=rec-HM-r2

hey man check this shit out lol.

Aiden Bloodaxe
Dec-23-08, 03:52 PM
hahahahahahaha

Pot
Dec-23-08, 10:36 PM
ok, lmfao?

Graber
Dec-24-08, 02:20 AM
Hey SHIT watch out coz I will FLASH.

Pot
Dec-24-08, 10:33 AM
Graber, you just run along into the splits now lol.

Graber
Dec-24-08, 11:18 AM
hahahahahahaha

Man dont lought u would love to jump like him... such big air.

Aiden Bloodaxe
Dec-24-08, 11:29 AM
Yes. All I need to do it find a broken spring board.