am i missing something

[shengoikee]

"tricks are supposed to look good"

"tricks are supposed to be fun"

which one is correct and how strongly are they related?


my answer:

BOTH and NOT AT ALL.

[Siphin]

everyone has personal preference... people need to trick the way they like to and others need to stop criticizing, unless the person asks for help or desperately needs it.. other wise just stfu and trick enjoy it

[shengoikee]

haha! so what's your point?

tricks don't have to look good?

edit: i understand the concept of a learning curve btw....

[Siphin]

haha! so what's your point?

tricks don't have to look good?

if they look good to you then be happy with them, but theres always room for improvement

[saulus]

like in the other threat...
if you yourself like how it looks it's good!..
you trick for yourself...
if other people don#t like how the move looks...
who care? who?

[shengoikee]

right, so you agree with me then.

haha

[Siphin]

right, so you agree with me then.

haha

yup :juji:

[Ernest]

I agree too, but yeah, looking good is subjective.

[saulus]

right, so you agree with me then.

haha

yes but in the other threat you didn't

or were you 0o!?

i don't know.. tell me! ^^

[jan]

The fun is of course the most important aspect (IMO), because if you're not having fun doing something; why are you doing it in the first place?

However, drilling tricks to look good has been fun for me. I enjoy spending an hour doing 540s, tweaking the setup, doing some more 540s, tweaking the jump etc... It's sort of a mental (and physical, of course) challenge to optimize your own style, while following basic principles of physics.
... my 540 setup sucks ass though, but that's partly because my hip won't let me kick much any mooooooooooore. WHICH means even more tweaking for me, as I have to completely change my hook/wheelkicks, and my kicking style in general.

But then again, I enjoy spending several hours drilling scale patterns and chord formations on the guitar. I guess I'm easy to please, hahah.

Basically: If you really enjoy doing something, then monotricking for a prolonged period of time won't really be any less fun than doing a million different tricks in the same time.


At least, that's what I think. Quality of tricks and fun in tricking are closely related. The more you enjoy it, the more you will tweak. And the more you're tweaking, the better things will look. (Though quality takes time, and one can't expect someone who's tricked for 2 months to have picture perfect tricks, unless they've already got a base in gymnastics, capoeira, wushu, or if they're a natural).

[shengoikee]

I agree too, but yeah, looking good is subjective.

this is true!

*reads jan's post*

[jan]

Sorry for the length of it, hahah.

And it's just my subjective view of the matter, of course:)

[shengoikee]

ahhh good points jan.

i still don't think the two are related in the case of argument. :wink:

[shengoikee]

actually, i don't think things looking good is that subjective.

good looking tricks will have qualities easily describable with words.

imagine if in gymnastics they decided everything was subjective? haha

there is a larger variation of style in tricking but still.... it's not that subjective.

[saulus]

yes kind of...

but for example...
many people hate 540 with crescent kicks... i think they look much better...
so i do them like that..

[shengoikee]

it obviously depends how well executed the 540 is. i believe you can make any (or at least most) tricks look good. so whether you use a crescent or a round is irrelevant.

[Source]

I agree that people should trick for themselves and enjoy it etc etc.
However, what about when you put a video of yourself on the internet or somewhere public?
If you are showing off your tricks for other people to watch then aren't you opening yourself to criticism willingly?
I think that if someone does a bunch of tricks that I think look like shite and they put them online, then I have the right to say what I feel about them.

[shengoikee]

exactly man! :good:

an honest criticism gives integrity. without that our comments are just full of shit haha.

pulling the "i was just having fun" card is retarded.

[D.A.]

Source is king.

edit:

pulling the "i was just having fun" card is retarded.
wait what?

[Source]

Integrity is something this board could do with.
Any time someone opens their mouth with any criticism about the 'popular' guys, they get jumped on.

[pete_man_man]

source is the sauce

[saulus]

the trick should be executed nicely of corse...
but if i don't like how the person performs the trick, but it is perfectly executed i believe critism is sensless...

edit:
for example the 540 example i said earlier...
or the cheat720twist from running setup...
if it just looks perfectly executed and his high...
why would you criticise it...

[n3m3s1s]

my answer:

BOTH and NOT AT ALL.

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[k-slash]

"tricks are supposed to look good" Yes they are.

"tricks are supposed to be fun" Yes they are.

which one is correct and how strongly are they related? They are both supposed to be said things, but they end up looking shit forever and you are constantly pissed off trying to fix that.

That is my tricking struggle haha, having fun = having tricks looking how you want. But it's an endless struggle!

The only thing that makes tricking fun is learning a new trick, and trucking with others. But as soon as you look at the new trick you landed, you get pissed off at how shit it looks so the struggle begins!

[Anubis]

the trick should be executed nicely of corse...
but if i don't like how the person performs the trick, but it is perfectly executed i believe critism is sensless...

edit:
for example the 540 example i said earlier...
or the cheat720twist from running setup...
if it just looks perfectly executed and his high...
why would you criticise it...

because if it was perfectly executed, they wouldnt of ran into it

[anerky]

I don't really think tricks are supposed to be fun, they just tend to be. It's preferable to have tricks be fun, but it isn't something that they signed up for. Though, as Jan said, it would be pretty stupid to spend your time tricking if it isn't fun for you. There are many other activities that you could do and actually enjoy.

If I came across a guy who was enslaved, tortured and forced to do tricks, I can't say that it make the tricks different from someone who enjoys it. The poor guy could be sobbing mid-sideswipe and it wouldn't change anything :agony:

Tricks look good and, of course, it's really nice when they are fun....
which everyone already knows

[shengoikee]

haha! ace

i think it's highly probable that people derive fun from tricking in a variety of different ways, but yeah, i see what you're saying.

[TKD_Andy]

the right answer is to do whatever you want haha

if you're happy with shit looking tricks then im happy for you (whoever 'you' are haha)

i trick because i enjoy doing it

[Swartz]

I get a thrill out of drilling moves as well. Some may consider drilling to be a chore but I find it exciting to clean up a move. The payoff in the end is just worth it.

Tricking needs to be fun and whether or not your moves are clean is a personal goal that some take more seriously than others. At least I do, which explains why I don't have an expansive list because I'm spending most of my time cleaning what I already have. Quality over quantity.

For othere the amount and variety of moves is more important. That's not my personal preference but it doesn't make it "wrong" either. Who am I to tell someone how they should trick? Doesn't affect me.

[gabrielb]

I get a thrill out of drilling moves as well. Some may consider drilling to be a chore but I find it exciting to clean up a move. The payoff in the end is just worth it.

Tricking needs to be fun and whether or not your moves are clean is a personal goal that some take more seriously than others. At least I do, which explains why I don't have an expansive list because I'm spending most of my time cleaning what I already have. Quality over quantity.

For othere the amount and variety of moves is more important. That's not my personal preference but it doesn't make it "wrong" either. Who am I to tell someone how they should trick? Doesn't affect me.

i agree with this post 100%..not that it matters.

[xrobbatesx]

I agree with jans post there both strongly linked with each other, hence it becomes hard to discuss... it's like saying whats the more important part of a cork, the take off or mid flight and landing Both because you need both for it to suceed.. that hardly relates lol, but you get the point...