Visualizations

[Jujimufu]

I wrote an article on visualizations. It's short, you can read it in 2 minutes. Please read it, give feedback, and share your own experiences! :smile: :candybar:

http://www.trickstutorials.com/index.php?page=content/visualize

[shengoikee]

fantastic! *reads*

edit: well, i know i'm going to be giving this a shot. :smile:

[simon]

this is actually how i learn tricks.
:smile:
i need to use this more though.

[Skilzat85X]

Oh gawd yes! Excellent! I was going to write an article about visualizations too, but I never got around to it as you could imagine. Awesome! Thanks a lot :smile:

[Ewasiuk]

Fresh meat :wicked:. Why haven't you discussed your sexual experiences yet Juji?

[540Ninja]

Good article. I think that can be very helpful for tricks, I'm going to try it. Thanks Juji!

[frankinstine]

Good article. I look forward to seeing the response.

[TricksterBee]

well...

im visualization is great my experiences with it? (my pedo side..)

im in the bathroom..
imagine my friends sexy sister
when shes asleep, i find her panties, do my business
play around with her body
then go all in, have fun etc
im done, got to bed
she wakes up next day
wtf?...


my experiences with it..

[Swartz]

I like this article, Juji. Not that your longer articles are bad, cause they're very informative but this particular one is both insightful and short. A nice little read. Well done.

[simon]

well...

im visualization is great my experiences with it? (my pedo side..)

im in the bathroom..
imagine my friends sexy sister
when shes asleep, i find her panties, do my business
play around with her body
then go all in, have fun etc
im done, got to bed
she wakes up next day
wtf?...


my experiences with it..
erm.ok.

[Lees Dragon]

Enlightning...


...and interesting

[AndyD11]

ahh sweet. i like doing this a lot, not only for natural sided tricks but as you mentioned, for opposite tricks as well. I am in the process of trying to learn all my tricks on the other side and this is one of the key things i use.
everyone should take heed of these words :)

[karatekid]

Hahaha great, unusualy written article:D

[Jujimufu]

I like this article, Juji. Not that your longer articles are bad, cause they're very informative but this particular one is both insightful and short. A nice little read. Well done.

Thanks Matt! I'm glad you feel it said all it needed to say in its length. My other write ups can be too long, so I'm starting to keep my new write ups shorter.

[Dave C]

Brains are funny things

[Braka]

I really loved this read! i'm going to try visualize

[dpitlock]

I do this nonstop! It is like practicing without practicing!

[n3m3s1s]

"BREATHE. BREATHE LIKE A COWARD!"

great article:good:

[Tatsumaru]

Very interesting, I'm going to try it. Nice little read :)

I wonder if I'll be able to cork consistently at the end of the month haha :wonder:

[Kris]

nice read! you put that very well together in just those few words!

[Pot]

Good Shit!

[BoredArnold]

this wouldn't work for stretching, would it? like visualizing yourself do splits or whatever.
i'm assuming this is only for visualizing technique, and technique only, yes?

[Aki]

I do know I can do the splits lower when I'm exited after landing a new trick, so the mind has SOMETHING to do with it. Just like you can move muscles with the brain by sending chemicals to them, I guess you can stretch them more by sending relaxants to them?

[karatekid]

I do know I can do the splits lower when I'm exited after landing a new trick, so the mind has SOMETHING to do with it. Just like you can move muscles with the brain by sending chemicals to them, I guess you can stretch them more by sending relaxants to them?

Yes, a relaxed mood helps flexibility.

[Alexx]

that was cool.

Sometimes when i'm visualising i'll see the tricker who inspired me to do the trick in the first place and can watch the clip over and over in my head so when i go to do the trick i can almost act as if i am that tricker performing that favorite trick, it helps lots.

[Dragonic MiKe]

Okay, hands up, who branled after reading this?

[Jujimufu]

this wouldn't work for stretching, would it? like visualizing yourself do splits or whatever.
i'm assuming this is only for visualizing technique, and technique only, yes?

If the technical aspect of maintaining a stretched position is holding you back. Then yes. Also if commitment to maintaining an uncomfortable stretching position is a problem. Then yes.

[Jujimufu]

These visualizations are especially good for familiarizing yourself with things that scare you, or make you freeze up. I'm not afraid of public speaking, in fact I excel at it (thanks to examplers), but some people could use it to wrangle their anxiety while rehearsing the actual speech.

In terms of tricking, these visualizations are powerful in a) Getting you to the point before you actually end up training a move, to have a good start. Make the most of the actual training time because you did your mental homework and b) Because we can only trick for so long before our bodies expire for the day, we can continue training in our minds.

To be honest though, I would imagine 10 minutes once or twice a day would be all you need. Spaced practice, not massed, when it comes to memory learning kind of shiz. Sitting around thinking about yourself doing a backflip for 5 hours the day before you go out and try it, is not going to be as effective as doing it 10 minutes a day for 2 weeks before going out. Even though you thought about it twice as long in the first example. This is common learning protocol now.

[TricksterBee]

i just realized I cant visualize, i just see black now...

and if i do visualize sort of, I do it better with my eyes open

weird..

[sasver]

well sometimes when i'm visualizing a new trick i can't to it properly and i have to like amm... can't discribe it it takes a lot mental power to to it properly and it really is hard so am i douing it right or what or should i do it see myself doing it properly the first time ???

[Jujimufu]

well sometimes when i'm visualizing a new trick i can't to it properly and i have to like amm... can't discribe it it takes a lot mental power to to it properly and it really is hard so am i douing it right or what or should i do it see myself doing it properly the first time ???

Ok. Here is a question. Can you visualize, and "feel" yourself jumping on a trampoline? Brushing your teeth? Getting into a car that's really low to the ground or high to the ground? Opening a can of Pepsi? Kicking a soccer ball?

These are easy things to do. If you can visualize yourself doing these things, and feel something about them without actually moving, then what's holding you back from visualizing a trick? Why do people go out expecting to do a backflip for the first time if they can't even imagine themselves doing it in their mind?

For experienced tricksters, I used the example of doing something hard on your opposite side. Like for me, an opposite sided hyperswipe is a bit wonky; But not only can I visualize myself doing a hyperswipe on my good side, I can do one for real quite well. :smile:

[TricksterBee]

what if you can't visualize that stuff though...

[Vaughnya]

YES! this is what i usually do and you've taken it and explained it in detail.

most excellent!

its weird.. i can picture myself doing a triple cork and just get excited thinking about it and at times when i think about it at night while laying in bed, my heart starts pounding hard and i cant fall asleep! then when i comes time to trick and i get out on the floor to try it i fail. same with cheat 720 twist, except i dont get all excited at night. haha

[alpha7158]

Interesting thought. sort of like training or prepairing your muscle memory without actually doing.

[Jujimufu]

Interesting thought. sort of like training or prepairing your muscle memory without actually doing.

There are studies I remember which I have failed to retrieve, where people being separated into groups and told to visualize themselves doing a task or actually doing it.

Two studies that come to mind is one comparing untrained individuals doing bicep curls and visualizing doing them, and those visualizing shooting free throws and those actually doing it. And the the improvement differences between the groups in terms of strength (in the bicep curl experiment) and shots made (in the basketball experiment) after like a week or so were so similar they were actually negligible. Obviously a free throw and bicep curl strength in untrained individuals is different than trained tricksters trying to do complicated fucking swing throughs on opposite sides but hell.... If anybody could find those studies it would be an interesting addition to this thread.

[simon]

I used it last night.
I wanted to do a standing hyperswipe.
I used to do it a lot, but i hadn't practised my aerial twists in so long that i just couldn't.
So i just thought about it and it worked.
:good:

[TricksterBee]

how are we supposed to visualize if we cant see shit? :eh:

[Dave C]

ImagiNAAAAAAAaaaaashun

[TricksterBee]

yea i tried, I just saw "black darkness"

[simon]

what on earth are you talking about?

[TricksterBee]

my god, I've said it like 5 times already..

I cant fucking visualize anything, all I see is black darkness when I close my eyes, even when i try to imagine myself doing something, I even slowly breathe, nothing... :dead:

[Jujimufu]

Feel.

[TricksterBee]

Fine, hopefully it will help.. :eh:

[Jujimufu]

Can you feel anger after you exit a fight with your parents? They aren't still breathing down your back engaging you in dispute. An hour later when you still feel angry, they aren't causing it anymore. It's you. It's all your doing.

Can you feel anticipation and excitement when you have a date with a cute girl? It's you. It's all your doing.

Can you feel your way through a trick when you are using your imagination as Dave said, before you go trick later in the day? Obviously this isn't so different from feeling anger or lust. This isn't so different than imagining what you could have said in the argument, or what you might want to do with that girl later.

My article merely mapped that correlation and gave recommendations so you physically manifest those visualizations more effectively.

[TricksterBee]

I need to get better at feeling..

[Leonardo]

Juji, you've read The Secret, haven't you? Same thing

[Jujimufu]

Juji, you've read The Secret, haven't you? Same thing

No. I know it's wildly popular but I have not read it nor do I plan to read it. Is that what it's about?

[TrickinNINJA]

I dont understand how you cant visualize something, have you ever thought about something going wrong? like.....I DROPED A LIGHT BULB! ........did you imagine it break? oh well i dont know. i know i do this all the time with tricks, but i often switch from 1st to 3rd person. and yeah it seems to help.

[TricksterBee]

to post above, no I havent...

[Jon P]

to post above, no I havent...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/418lmByFDKL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

Anyways, great article Juji!
This was always a large part of my training.
I remember someone telling me about that free throw study years ago and ever since used it in my training.
I felt it helped me immensely.

[sasver]

yeah it really helps thanks Juji :) i can see myself doing trick that are far out my class and it gets me pumpd like i see myself douing double b-twist whit my bad side and when i do practise b-twist it comes a lot better then it really is helpfull

[utens]

the secret , i saw it too, there is even a film ... talk about the power of the brain ... but it's a bit exagerate...... however everything that we do or thing it's all our mode to see the world,how are the things , like emotions , think about it ,thoose are only electricals flows, that our neurones interpretates in a certaint way and all together in the brain made the different things... I can't explain good myself in english but the idea is this..

[Leonardo]

No. I know it's wildly popular but I have not read it nor do I plan to read it. Is that what it's about?

well, like Utens said, it's a bit overexaggerated, but it basically describes the same.
It describes mostly the law of attraction, which is (according to the guys of that book) the biggest natural law in the universe and everything responds to it.
What it does, is that it gives you anything you want if you can control it. It depends on what you are thinking. Most of the time we're not thinking deeply enough to attract anything we really want. But if we focus, with the visualization techniques, like you described, so not only thinking about for example the car you want, but also how it would feel, how you would sit in the chair, how that feels etc. If you do that lots of times, the law of attraction will eventually make sure you get that car.

The people who made that book, they just got that information from the secret societies (if that is the correct english word for it), like the free masons, who are using these visualizations for centuries to get in touch with spirits etc. hahaha... at least that's what they are trying.

Anyway juji,... don't read The Secret, that's more for housewives hahaha, you should read more about how the secret societies do it, if you haven't already.

[AndyD11]

well, like Utens said, it's a bit overexaggerated, but it basically describes the same.
It describes mostly the law of attraction, which is (according to the guys of that book) the biggest natural law in the universe and everything responds to it.
What it does, is that it gives you anything you want if you can control it. It depends on what you are thinking. Most of the time we're not thinking deeply enough to attract anything we really want. But if we focus, with the visualization techniques, like you described, so not only thinking about for example the car you want, but also how it would feel, how you would sit in the chair, how that feels etc. If you do that lots of times, the law of attraction will eventually make sure you get that car.

The people who made that book, they just got that information from the secret societies (if that is the correct english word for it), like the free masons, who are using these visualizations for centuries to get in touch with spirits etc. hahaha... at least that's what they are trying.

Anyway juji,... don't read The Secret, that's more for housewives hahaha, you should read more about how the secret societies do it, if you haven't already.

Eurgh. My ex's dad was free-mason, he was a complete cunt to everybody but himself, not to mention incredibly illogical about most things. From what i'm aware free-mason's is just a club for rick people who want to think they are even more important. They don't let anyone else in their little meetings because i doubt anything actually happens that is worthwhile haha.

[Leonardo]

Eurgh. My ex's dad was free-mason, he was a complete cunt to everybody but himself, not to mention incredibly illogical about most things. From what i'm aware free-mason's is just a club for rick people who want to think they are even more important. They don't let anyone else in their little meetings because i doubt anything actually happens that is worthwhile haha.

well, you can become a member, but you have to go to some tests and they will monitore you for several years whaha...
They do think very different. When you join you have to go through some initiations. The initiations should get you closer to the spirits (demons and angels etc.) Maybe in the old days with the Templars the initiations worked, haha, but I think nowadays the free masons try to copy them but fail.
So the initiations they have are about getting to see things, and when they do, they feel as if they can do and see things normal people can't, therefore think they are better whahaha.
But all in all, they probably did see some stuff, while they were initiated, but only because they were drugged. That's how they do it now.

Probably explains his behaviour.

[Dragonic MiKe]

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/418lmByFDKL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

Haha, Robot is right.


TricksterBee, I think the problem you're having may be related to how people are describing this idea. It's very name is misleading - "visualisation" - since it's got little to do with your eyes.

The eyes, like any sensory organ, collect information. They are like video cameras that constantly stream photographs into your mind.

When you try to 'visualise' you can't use your eyes (they're closed!), you must use your mind. With your mind you can shuffle about information you've seen, that you know, that you can imagine. Don't try to literally see things (although in my experience this is quite possible) instead try to construct an image in your head.

When you recall a dream you're not remembering actual events, or physical truths from reality, you're remembering things you've 'seen' in your mind.

That's what you should do. You know what a house is - think - what does it look like? You know what a 540 kick is - again think - what does it look like!? If you've landed a 540 kick you know what it feels like - and you can think about that too!

Concentrating really hard and waiting for pictures to appear on the backs of your eyelids is counter productive.

Start imagining. :wink:

[Dobi]

Juji, you've read The Secret, haven't you? Same thing
No. I know it's wildly popular but I have not read it nor do I plan to read it. Is that what it's about?
Let me recommend to you to don't change your Plan not to read it. :wink:
I watched the Movie to the Book and if the Book is not completely the opposite, it also sucks.
Earl Nightingale = good :juji:
Stephen R. Covey = ok
Jujis Visualisation-Article = good
"The Secret" = stupid pseudoscientific religulous bullshit using the word "universum" as a substitute for "god" and trying to explain physically that you send your thoughts to the universe. i never rolled my eyes so often in 90 minutes.
Ok, the Visualisation-Part says right (and widely known) things how to do it, but it tries to tell us that if we visualise ourself in a sportscar often enough, we will get the car without doing something for it. "just leave it to the universe". stupid fucking fuck. lol. even writing about it pisses me off. :punched:

[TricksterBee]

thanks mike, that really helped me, today i was sleeping then I imagined something cold was on my back, and it felt really really cold, but nothin was there! :)

[Aiden Bloodaxe]

TricksterBee, you are quite the 17 year old.

Visualising comes natural to me, I've been visualising for over 8months now, I wonder how much it will have helped when I finally start tricking. :tongue:

[Dragonic MiKe]

Exztreme Visualizations Battle!

[Guru]

visualizations are very helpful i cant do a trick until i see it in my mind first (unless i accidentally do it lol)

[Felipe]

There are studies I remember which I have failed to retrieve, where people being separated into groups and told to visualize themselves doing a task or actually doing it.

They are on the book Psychocybernetics.

Can I see a detailed picture of your bookshelf, juji?
I'm very interested in your philosophical and practical knowledge.

[Dai]

Brains are funny things

Indeed.

On another note, while I haven't been meditating per se, I have been visualizing for years. I've only had limited success applying it to tricking, but it's been very handy for juggling and weapon forms. Also, it seems that over time, I've become better at anticipating the physical behavior of objects. Like I look at a knife/sword, and can easily visualize where the balance point would probably be, how it would probably feel like to use, and with the ones I've gotten my hands on, I feel that I've been getting more accurate. Of course, the more I know about he object in question (accurate dimensions, density, etc) the easier it is.

Also, I've always found Kata to be boring, but visualizing the same thing to be a lot more interesting and engaging, anyone else know what I mean?

[Dragonic MiKe]

Indeed.

On another note, while I haven't been meditating per se, I have been visualizing for years. I've only had limited success applying it to tricking, but it's been very handy for juggling and weapon forms. Also, it seems that over time, I've become better at anticipating the physical behavior of objects. Like I look at a knife/sword, and can easily visualize where the balance point would probably be, how it would probably feel like to use, and with the ones I've gotten my hands on, I feel that I've been getting more accurate. Of course, the more I know about he object in question (accurate dimensions, density, etc) the easier it is.

Also, I've always found Kata to be boring, but visualizing the same thing to be a lot more interesting and engaging, anyone else know what I mean?

You said the magic word. Let's talk. :smile:

[Jujimufu]

They are on the book Psychocybernetics.

Can I see a detailed picture of your bookshelf, juji?
I'm very interested in your philosophical and practical knowledge.

I've torn up about a dozen of my personal books and scanned them in as PDFs, I've given a couple books away, thrown a few away, but most of what I've read is from the library. So my collection is a rather hodge podge of scraps full of underlining and side margin notes. Books are tools. I usually go back through later and type all my notes into text documents or play with ideas in my journals... I usually murder books as opposed to through reading them (the library books too haha).

I average about two books a month like that, I read an hour or three a day. Right now I'm on an E.O. Wilson kick and am on my third of his books on ecology / environmental philosophy / human nature etc.

[utens]

Juji I hope you can do something important to change something,cause you're interested in a lot of things and have creativity,or be remembered.....However,thoose are my ambitions..:smile:

[emc]

where do you live jujimufu

[Sashimi]

^ Haha.

[furioushaime]

I used to trick once a week, and I did a ton of visualizing all the other days of the week. That gave me decent progress from 04-06. (visualization is the shit for learning and retaining tricks without a doubt)

I dont visualize with tricks as much anymore but I meditate regularly and DONT find it boring at all. Dave steered me down the right path with that.
:smile:

[Espen]

where do you live jujimufu

Haha, I love how that is your only post! :tongue:

[Ewasiuk]

where do you live jujimufu

He lives on 153 Luther King Ave., Compton, CA.

[Ashtar]

Not Martin Luther King?