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n3m3s1s

Jan-31-09, 04:30 PM

Anyone noticed a connection there?

Churoflip

Jan-31-09, 04:35 PM

Girls an aerials = HOT

AsoBit

Jan-31-09, 04:38 PM

I once saw a girl try aerials for about 4 hours straight at a gym once. She never landed it at all that night.

Augenatic

Jan-31-09, 04:43 PM

girls always aerial because it's not a power move, it's a walkover-ish move.. if you have good flexibility and technique (which trickster girls always have lol) you can easily do it without being all powwerr

jan

Jan-31-09, 04:47 PM

I do aerials.

Augenatic

Jan-31-09, 04:48 PM

hmm, you must be a girl then

BboyAgua

Jan-31-09, 04:52 PM

Only in my fantasies.

Dragonic MiKe

Jan-31-09, 04:54 PM

Girls should have to do Double Aerials for it to count.

MeatMachine

Jan-31-09, 05:20 PM

But why do they so rarely have any aerial variations? I don't think I've ever seen a girl even do an Aswitch or an Atwist before.

Augenatic

Jan-31-09, 05:23 PM

for me, an aswitch takes a lot more power than a regular aerial, it's more like a swipe than a walkover, maybe that's why

but i do not know

jan

Jan-31-09, 05:25 PM

Most aerial tricks are power-moves, from my knowledge. I do aerials like a power-move as well, but they don't require much power to "just get through".

That, combined with ginormous hips, is usually a good combo for most chicks.

Augenatic

Jan-31-09, 05:31 PM

yuss exactly
jan i was thinking, how do you think of an aswitch? i have a lot of trouble with getting axe2aswitches consistent, i've landed it once but i was trying an axe2brandy and i accidentally switched lol - i can't do it if i think of doing a switch :(

jan

Jan-31-09, 05:46 PM

Augenatic

Jan-31-09, 05:56 PM

ahh thanks jan ^^ i don't understand the arms things though, i can't imagine doing an aerial without using my arms :agony:

BrandonLenz

Jan-31-09, 06:18 PM

i aerial often

Mr.Parafuso

Jan-31-09, 06:21 PM

i can't aerial at all, that move confuses me:(

jan

Jan-31-09, 06:32 PM

ahh thanks jan ^^ i don't understand the arms things though, i can't imagine doing an aerial without using my arms :agony:

Well, iMo: It's all in the hips. You thrust your hips straight up, use your lower back and concentrate a TON on using your legs.

All I need to do to get around in an aerial is to kick my first leg up hard enough. I usually keep my arms chambered in a guard next to my head. Same goes for bkicks and switches etc...

BboyShinez

Jan-31-09, 07:12 PM

Well, iMo: It's all in the hips. You thrust your hips straight up, use your lower back and concentrate a TON on using your legs.

All I need to do to get around in an aerial is to kick my first leg up hard enough. I usually keep my arms chambered in a guard next to my head. Same goes for bkicks and switches etc...

lol thtz because your sidekick is like halfway into an aerial....
why dosnt anyone do front aerials?

Skippy

Jan-31-09, 07:15 PM

lol thtz because your sidekick is like halfway into an aerial....
why dosnt anyone do front aerials?

Tim used to do front aerials, where ever he is anymore =[

FrepNEiAeUM

BboyShinez

Jan-31-09, 07:23 PM

Tim used to do front aerials, where ever he is anymore =[

FrepNEiAeUM

haha oh yea...I remember the sampler he had with avril lavigne's girlfriend as the background song....it had some preety sick tricks but the front aerial frm tim made me go "oh sht" out loud....im trying to condition my back for this move right now...
plus back flexibilty opens up a ton of move oppertunities as ive recently found out....
stuff like hollowbacks walkovers and continuous handsprings...

Cory

Jan-31-09, 07:55 PM

But why do they so rarely have any aerial variations? I don't think I've ever seen a girl even do an Aswitch or an Atwist before.

At LK, Mindy Kelly had insanely good Aswitches and Atwists. I was quite jealous :tongue:

Braka

Jan-31-09, 08:35 PM

I'd love an aerial switch tutorial from Jan! or even better tutorials for a whole heap of aerial variations from Jan! :) <3

remthetreme

Jan-31-09, 08:53 PM

Hmmm... I don't know really.

I just kind of think of it as a tweaked sideswipe. I jump straight up, then just try to hammer my leg back into the ground. The main difference between a switch and a normal aerial is the need to go straight up, I think. I also always keep my upper body a little bit angled over my takeoff leg, to get more power from my back when I jump.

And I don't use my arms at all when I do aerial stuff.

hahaha Jan you are just too flexible seriously... you are a man! and the most flexible one I ever seen :smile:

I never seen a girl do aerial switch move well, maybe its just because of most of them got gymnastic background... and they didn't got "umph" enough!

wtf of course your arms are involve, but your shoulder and upper boddy are way more needed when its time to switch aerial and stuff, but for direct aerial and straight webster its a lot about groin, hips and lowers back flexibility, no upper body's rotation involve (well... slightly)

Jujimufu

Jan-31-09, 09:29 PM

Jujimufu

Jan-31-09, 09:32 PM

Juji: "Jan, you can do sideswipe_gm_aerial right? You got any pointers?"
Jan: "Yeah it's a torque."
Juji: "What?"
Jan: "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MRJZGMbFj0"

tsuchinoko

Jan-31-09, 10:04 PM

Juji: "Jan, you can do sideswipe_gm_aerial right? You got any pointers?"
Jan: "Yeah it's a torque."
Juji: "What?"
Jan: "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MRJZGMbFj0"

hahaha words of wisdom from the master

datrickingferret

Jan-31-09, 10:14 PM

This jan must be ways too cool. God will judge him for that..

In fact quite the reverse is true.

Anubis

Jan-31-09, 10:22 PM

But why do they so rarely have any aerial variations? I don't think I've ever seen a girl even do an Aswitch or an Atwist before.

makenzie emory can do an atwist, so can mindy.

At LK, Mindy Kelly had insanely good Aswitches and Atwists. I was quite jealous :tongue:

yeah, sessh taught them in his atwist seminar for lkc. there is a girl from spain who learned them there too.

Augenatic

Feb-01-09, 03:11 AM

Don't listen to Jan, he gives awful advice.

Juji: "Cool Jan! I never tried that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chrt97yib_U) move. How do you do it?"
Jan: "Well, you go sideways with leg."
Juji: "?"
Jan: "haha"
hahaha
Well, iMo: It's all in the hips. You thrust your hips straight up, use your lower back and concentrate a TON on using your legs.

All I need to do to get around in an aerial is to kick my first leg up hard enough. I usually keep my arms chambered in a guard next to my head. Same goes for bkicks and switches etc...

yesss, sounds good, i'll try it like that today :tongue:

Sakanem

Feb-01-09, 04:16 AM

But why do they so rarely have any aerial variations? I don't think I've ever seen a girl even do an Aswitch or an Atwist before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GPLEpCRQd8

Stickjumper does brandy axe2aerial & aswitch in this. I've never seen her atwist, although I'm sure she could do it.

MeatMachine

Feb-01-09, 06:25 AM

Okay, so that's three girls who can Aswitch, and two that can Atwist. Out of thousands that have really nice aerials.

From now on I'm going to teach every jailbait gymnast girl that comes within 5 fathoms of me how to Atwist.

Don't listen to Jan, he gives awful advice.

Juji: "Cool Jan! I never tried that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chrt97yib_U) move. How do you do it?"
Jan: "Well, you go sideways with leg."
Juji: "?"
Jan: "haha"
Ha!

Anima

Feb-01-09, 06:37 AM

Tricksters and Sexism, anyone noticed the connection there?

Jams

Feb-01-09, 06:49 AM

whats a girl?

Safari

Feb-01-09, 07:14 AM

Since women are weaker than men, they're not able to throw insane power moves. but they also have lower center of gravity than us which makes aerial an easier move for them ot learn.

Augenatic

Feb-01-09, 07:18 AM

safari is a wise man

jan

Feb-01-09, 07:20 AM

hahaha Jan you are just too flexible seriously... you are a man! and the most flexible one I ever seen :smile:

I never seen a girl do aerial switch move well, maybe its just because of most of them got gymnastic background... and they didn't got "umph" enough!

wtf of course your arms are involve, but your shoulder and upper boddy are way more needed when its time to switch aerial and stuff, but for direct aerial and straight webster its a lot about groin, hips and lowers back flexibility, no upper body's rotation involve (well... slightly)

Well, I could do a video in which I do all the aerial variations with my hands in my pants or something. I've done axe aerialswitch with my hands in my pockets, hahah.

I really don't use my arms for anything but keeping them in guard for... I don't know, old habit.

Thanks though <3<3 :D

jan

Feb-01-09, 07:22 AM

Juji: "Jan, you can do sideswipe_gm_aerial right? You got any pointers?"
Jan: "Yeah it's a torque."
Juji: "What?"
Jan: "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MRJZGMbFj0"

Hahahahah holy shit, this made me laugh out so loud, hahaha.

Nutshell, man. Nutshell :D Hahahaha.

Anima

Feb-01-09, 07:34 AM

Since women are weaker than men, they're not able to throw insane power moves. but they also have lower center of gravity than us which makes aerial an easier move for them ot learn.

lol. All women are weaker then all men?

MeatMachine

Feb-01-09, 07:42 AM

lol. All women are weaker then all men?

In this thread, we take all generalisations and apply them to each individual case of man vs woman.

Dont be stupid, Anima

Anima

Feb-01-09, 07:53 AM

Haha, it's more stupid to say that all men are stronger than all women. In my opinion.

Adam Ross

Feb-01-09, 07:53 AM

Gah, most woman don't do variations cause they were just taking their cartwheel to the next level. They start doing back cart-wheels, it goes toa round-off, then one hand, they develop a crazy mind set and go no hands, they feal after that they do not need to level up. That is how a normal girl thinks.
I've never met a trickz girl.
But the cheerleaders in edinburgh are hot.

MeatMachine

Feb-01-09, 07:55 AM

Haha, it's more stupid to say that all men are stronger than all women. In my opinion.

Its a good job nobody said that, then!

Anima

Feb-01-09, 08:01 AM

Since women are weaker than men, they're not able to throw insane power moves. but they also have lower center of gravity than us which makes aerial an easier move for them ot learn.

Its a good job nobody said that, then!

....

MeatMachine

Feb-01-09, 08:14 AM

Haha, it's more stupid to say that all men are stronger than all women. In my opinion.

There is a difference between saying THAT, and a generalisation i.e. "women are [in general] weaker than men". Learn it!

Skippy

Feb-01-09, 08:28 AM

Haha, it's more stupid to say that all men are stronger than all women. In my opinion.

Naturally, all men are stronger than woman provided there is no defects and they all have the same dietary requirements met. This isn't a stupid assumption, it's just the god damn truth haha.

Ofcourse saying all men are stronger than all women is stupid considering all the female O lifters out there.

TKD_Andy

Feb-01-09, 08:54 AM

haha me and lynall were having this very conversation in the pub on tuesday night.

brandonn

Feb-01-09, 08:59 AM

i have noticed this connection many times. i'll do an aerial and a girl will go "omggg how do you do that?" and after about 5 minutes of coaching they land them lol

Augenatic

Feb-01-09, 09:16 AM

Well, I could do a video in which I do all the aerial variations with my hands in my pants or something. I've done axe aerialswitch with my hands in my pockets, hahah.

I really don't use my arms for anything but keeping them in guard for... I don't know, old habit.

Thanks though <3<3 :D

jann, please make a video with aerials with hands in pockets and please make a sampler hahaha, it's been so long :(

AndyD11

Feb-01-09, 10:27 AM

i have always felt that all girls are born with the innate ability to aerial later in life.

Shukumine

Feb-01-09, 11:01 AM

What I have learned about (some) "tricking" women: They learn/have natural ability to do Aerial, Front Walkover, Back Walkover and in some occasions; Bkick. Then they think it's cool and they do it over and over again, without thinking progressing. It's like a female side of Joe Eigo.

jan

Feb-01-09, 11:28 AM

Jeez yeah. Just look at Sarah Musky. She's so laaaaaaaaaaaame

Tricia...

Feb-01-09, 11:29 AM

um... I think people just need to have higher expectations for girls. Usually people are like, "Ooh! you're a girl! you try! you're the coolest!!" even though something she does looks shitty. If it was a guy, he'd be placed under category of noob. But since it was a girl, she is under category of cool.

I know I have high expectations for myself and when I have someone pushing be to go farther, it helps. So the next time you see a girl doing just aerials and thinking she's cool, teach her something else. lol

guy: good job!
me: lies! that was ugly
guy: no no it's okay, at least you tried :D!
me: -________-

jan

Feb-01-09, 11:31 AM

MUSK. She's not musky.

Safari

Feb-01-09, 11:55 AM

SeanS

Feb-01-09, 12:08 PM

MAn you must have shitty mates that tell other "noob mates" that they suck..

Edit: One should never tell someone that they suck unless they're good or land something awesome. Which then will be "irony"

deez.

jan

Feb-01-09, 12:21 PM

And by "irony" you mean not irony?

Safari

Feb-01-09, 12:24 PM

And by "irony" you mean not irony?

I used them to make my point even more obvious, Mr. Obvious!

Scott

Feb-01-09, 12:37 PM

Safari

Feb-01-09, 12:48 PM

I just feel like pointing out that most people on this forum are about as weak as any non-competitive yet athletic girl. HURRR I CAN BENCH PRESS 60 KG! WHOOAAA CONGRATS.

Just felt like posting that since I've been thinking about how there only seem to be a handful of people on here who can even clean their own bodyweight (OOOOHMGAWDD) (which is probably only 145 lbs anyways).

That is not the point.. You should know that a girl would use a hundred years on roidz too become as big as you and you used like 5 years with no roidz. MY point being that girls are geneticly(?) weaker than guys, that's just how it is.

jan

Feb-01-09, 12:48 PM

Hahahahahahah, best unexpected post so far this year.

That is not the point.. You should know that a girl would use a hundred years on roidz too become as big as you and you used like 5 years with no roidz. MY point being that girls are geneticly(?) weaker than guys, that's just how it is.

DID HE NOW??!??11

That is not the point.. You should know that a girl would use a hundred years on roidz too become as big as you and you used like 5 years with no roidz. MY point being that girls are geneticly(?) weaker than guys, that's just how it is.

WOULD THEY NOW?!?!?111

That is not the point.. You should know that a girl would use a hundred years on roidz too become as big as you and you used like 5 years with no roidz. MY point being that girls are geneticly(?) weaker than guys, that's just how it is.

IS IT NOW?!?!??11

That is not the point.. You should know that a girl would use a hundred years on roidz too become as big as you and you used like 5 years with no roidz. MY point being that girls are geneticly(?) weaker than guys, that's just how it is.

IS IT NOW?!?!?

Safari

Feb-01-09, 12:53 PM

Yes, Jan. It is.

jan

Feb-01-09, 01:00 PM

IS IT NOW?!?!?!?!?+11

Safari

Feb-01-09, 01:01 PM

You'll have to prove me wrong!

jan

Feb-01-09, 01:18 PM

YOU R WRAWWWWNGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!11111111

Tricia...

Feb-01-09, 02:29 PM

That is not the point.. You should know that a girl would use a hundred years on roidz too become as big as you and you used like 5 years with no roidz. MY point being that girls are geneticly(?) weaker than guys, that's just how it is.

Even if they may be genetically weaker, it doesnt make them less able to trick. I learned a btwist faster than a lot of guys I know who even had martial arts backgrounds. My background is just soccer, basketball, and track. So, I believe it's all about drive. I guess a lot of girls just aren't motivated to trick.

MAn you must have shitty mates that tell other "noob mates" that they suck..

Edit: One should never tell someone that they suck unless they're good or land something awesome. Which then will be "irony"

And my friends don't exactly tell others they suck. They give nice constructive criticism. lol But um... I'm friends w/ team FS if that tells ya anything about their skill.

jan

Feb-01-09, 02:57 PM

TEAM FS SUCKS!

Scott

Feb-01-09, 03:47 PM

Ahaha

Severin you should meet Anja the powerlifer, she's as strong if not stronger than me

Safari

Feb-01-09, 03:48 PM

Even if they may be genetically weaker, it doesnt make them less able to trick. I learned a btwist faster than a lot of guys I know who even had martial arts backgrounds. My background is just soccer, basketball, and track. So, I believe it's all about drive. I guess a lot of girls just aren't motivated to trick.

And my friends don't exactly tell others they suck. They give nice constructive criticism. lol But um... I'm friends w/ team FS if that tells ya anything about their skill.

Quote 1
Now you're talking about yourself, and you're only one person, so you can't base your statement on that (Jan thought me this! blame him). I never said that girls didn't have good athletes in anyway, so I'm sorry if my opinion was rude in any way^^

Quote 2
Hahaha, it wasn't ment that way, it was irony. So sorry again for my comment. And wtf are you doing? Team FS owns but their skill don't have anything too do with this. Personally I love them, I met Sebastian at bg 08. One hella of a guy(much love)

Edit: I often use "on-the-edge" - examples too make myself clear just thought I should add that too this thread.

And scott:P Yes I know it's a lot of girls that are stronger than the average joe..

AndyD11

Feb-01-09, 03:59 PM

(which is probably only 145 lbs anyways).

128 actually!!! hahaha

Tricia...

Feb-01-09, 04:14 PM

Quote 1
Now you're talking about yourself, and you're only one person, so you can't base your statement on that (Jan thought me this! blame him). I never said that girls didn't have good athletes in anyway, so I'm sorry if my opinion was rude in any way^^

Quote 2
Hahaha, it wasn't ment that way, it was irony. So sorry again for my comment. And wtf are you doing? Team FS owns but their skill don't have anything too do with this. Personally I love them, I met Sebastian at bg 08. One hella of a guy(much love)

1. Yeah, but I'm also not the most athletic girl out there. Iunno I guess I'm just not fond of generalizations. but wuheva. s'all good.

2. lol I was saying it cuz you were like One should never tell someone that they suck unless they're good or land something awesome. Which then will be "irony" So yeah. And I meant mostly FS MD, since I'm originally from MD.

Siphin

Feb-01-09, 04:16 PM

girls are aerials..... makes sense doesn't it?

Safari

Feb-01-09, 04:19 PM

2. lol I was saying it cuz you were like So yeah. And I meant mostly FS MD, since I'm originally from MD.

haha, sorry for the misunderstanding, Tricia. What I ment about that, was this:

*mogwai does a super insane combo involving sick crazy power*

Safari: *screams* You suck, Mogwai!
Mogwai: Thank you!

jan

Feb-01-09, 04:28 PM

girls are aerials..... makes sense doesn't it?

Chicks know how to spread their legs.

End topic.

sesshoumaru

Feb-01-09, 06:07 PM

The Obvious

I don't think that female trickers have a problem progressing because of a particular singular flaw [such as lacking strength]. I think that it is a combination of things that generally make our female counter-parts comparitively weaker as trickers...I'm just going to talk about one of them.

Conditioning & Drive

Let's face it, the average female is not properly conditioned for this sport...and I'm not just speaking on a physical standpoint; but on a psychological standpoint as well.

I don't know much about physiology and whatnot, but I'm willing to bet that males and females have different rates of muscle growth. I think that if a male and a female were to do the same amount of work, the male will stimulate more muscle growth out of it, than the female. Once again, I don't know if this is true, but this is what it seems like. Due to this, under normal circumstances [no extra-curricular strength training, muscle atrophy, steroids, etc.], the weakest male is going to be stronger than the strongest female.

Another thing, is that females quickly learn that they're lacking in physical strength...therefore, do not directly depend on it. Instead, they focus on technique and use intuition more than males do. Which is why female rock climbers are the best [as in least likely to die], because they carefully think out their next moves; as opposed to diving in head-first and relying on strength and skill alone.

Much of MAT is simply exploration. There are countless times when you're forced to learn something by just diving head first into it...which is something females just don't do regularly. For example...

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Cheat 720 Twist

Instead of doing what males do:

"Fuck it...I'm just gonna chuck this and see where I end up."

They over think everything, and psyche themselves out:

"I wanna try this, but the landing is so awkward...what if I break my leg and die."

..:: Thinks about how much that would hurt ::..

..:: Develops a mental picture of her clinching her mangled knee, in agony ::..

"I don't wanna die."
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There is just no way around it, you have to want it enough to risk everything, and most females have problem doing that [unless there is some slow, drawn out process].

Another issue is the way the average female is raised. Unlike the males, who are encouraged to be more physically active, spontaneous, and emotionally detacthed...females are conditioned to be the opposite. They are generally taught that they are inferior to males in those catagories, so they unconsciously focus on everything the typical male is not raised to be...which is graceful, calculating, and emotive [which is why most females trickers, are ex-gymnasts, cheerleaders, dancers, etc.]. The issue is that while they might have experience in similar movements [like flipping, kicking, and spinning], they are too soft and hold on to the frame of the technique too much for it to ever look natural...and something as simple as "chamber" becomes the hardest thing ever.

Braka

Feb-01-09, 06:31 PM

So happy that Sesshoumaru is posting again! whenever he posts in a topic it becomes more legit imo! haha

....and yes this post pretty much sums up why a lot of female trickers aren't as good.

But they can be! no doubt about it!

Scott

Feb-01-09, 07:17 PM

the weakest male is going to be stronger than the strongest female.

No. Nonononononono.

Tricia...

Feb-01-09, 10:39 PM

They over think everything, and psyche themselves out:

"I wanna try this, but the landing is so awkward...what if I break my leg and die."

..:: Thinks about how much that would hurt ::..

..:: Develops a mental picture of her clinching her mangled knee, in agony ::.. [COLOR=DarkRed]

"I don't wanna die."

That is... exactly on point. XDD That's [I]exactly what goes through my head and why it always takes me forever to even throw a trick, and it's why it took me forever to try tricking in general. Luckily nowadays, I always eventually get over it.

And as for how girls are raised, luckily I always preferred hanging out with boys. =]

Rudy

Feb-01-09, 10:55 PM

tricia....it's not going to hurt that bad, lol

and sessh's post is why some guys take longer than others

they weigh the options and try to get their basics good before moving on...other people (like me) just throw the next level of the trick skipping all the variations in between

i landed cork and started trying for double with in the month...couldnt variate it at all same thing for full, i landed it once then started going for double

Dragonic MiKe

Feb-02-09, 01:53 AM

Haha, In that case, I'm such a girl when it comes to tricks.

Cathrine

Feb-02-09, 11:23 AM

apparently so am I.

oh wait...

Dragonic MiKe

Feb-04-09, 01:30 AM

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL11111