View Full Version : Splits: Pants and Habits
Ashtar
Feb-03-09, 05:11 PM
I'd really like to be able to do a full side and both front splits by May of this year... it's difficult to stretch in jeans and stuff, do you guys normally wear sleep or sweat pants when you do it?
Furthermore, do you switch between using a chair as a weight-bearer and fully supporting your own weight while lowering into side? How do you avoid boredom? I thought about doing it while I watch TV but it would require drastically rearranging the room.
Maybe you could read a book while doing it? You'd have to put it down whenever you take the weight off your legs onto chair to lower further, so you could put the book onto the chair?
For front splits, there's 2 ways I've been switching between and I can't really deside what is best. Do you guys always have the rear knee on the ground (usually on a pillow) so that it is bent and the top of the foot is resting on the ground, or do you keep the rear leg straight and bear your weight on the toes and ball of the foot?
I guess how the front leg is could vary too, like whether to keep the knee straight even if it limits hip flexion, or to totally focus on hip flexion while allowing the knee to bend (I guess that's more of a lunge).
Even though lunges and front splits are different entities, since they're related does anybody switch back and forth between them during a stretching session? Do you use one to warm up for the other in some cases?
In terms of loading stretching, just how much do you focus on this? Is focusing on pinching the floor enough or should we be trying to splay our legs holding 100+ pounds like Rob Van Dam? I wish I knew where he started.
Ewasiuk
Feb-03-09, 07:04 PM
Shorts, sweatpants, or briefs(if you feeling even bolder, naked haha) are the best. If you're wearing boxers you have a chance of your package flopping out haha.
Ewasiuk
Feb-03-09, 07:09 PM
1. For front splits, there's 2 ways I've been switching between and I can't really deside what is best. Do you guys always have the rear knee on the ground (usually on a pillow) so that it is bent and the top of the foot is resting on the ground, or do you keep the rear leg straight and bear your weight on the toes and ball of the foot?
2. Even though lunges and front splits are different entities, since they're related does anybody switch back and forth between them during a stretching session? Do you use one to warm up for the other in some cases?
3. In terms of loading stretching, just how much do you focus on this? Is focusing on pinching the floor enough or should we be trying to splay our legs holding 100+ pounds like Rob Van Dam? I wish I knew where he started.
1. Usually a pillow or a small folded blanket. If you can prop your back or front leg up on a higher ledge for hyper splits, that's even better. When I used to do karate, when we did the splits you kind of had to use the balls of your foot because resting your knee on a hard floor can be pretty painful after a while.
2. I usually do lunges, hip flexor or quad, or hamstring stretches before doing actual front splits. Some days I do the splits first if I'm pressed for time.
3. I don't think you would want to take any chances with a lot of weight if you aren't very flexible. Some resistance from a person pushing you down into the splits is sufficient and more safe.
Ashtar
Feb-04-09, 02:51 PM
I don't have anybody to push me down right now so weights are the only option for resistance at the moment. Should you be letting the weight pull you down into it? It'd a bit confusing since I find what I usually do is deload some weight to reduce friction on the feet (less of an issue with socks and slippery wood floor) and shift weight back and forward a bit so that the legs can move out, and then resume having weight on it and holding.
I think it's like, initially your legs squeeze in (instinctive isometric) and then when they relax, the weight moves further away from your centre and pushes outwards. Like, with side, when you're squeezing in you feel like your foot skin is pulling out because the foot is pulling in, and then when it's not, it's like the skin is pulling in and the footbone is moving out.
At that point is when you are relaxed enough to try the conscious PNF right? Immediately after you cease constant tension, then when you try to go wider you are sort of trying to pulse the antagonists like in a static-active to assist you getting it open...
Graber
Feb-07-09, 04:42 PM
Man it doesnt metter what i wear, at worse the pants can crack nothing else.
Man i did splits many times in Levis Jeans, even the side.
PS:And i still have my balls as u could c.
Ewasiuk
Feb-07-09, 06:07 PM
PS:And i still have my balls as u could c.
Pics?
Graber
Feb-08-09, 03:58 AM
Pics?
Well i made a topic u can find it in the second page now:). Have fun.
Ashtar
Feb-08-09, 07:21 AM
You might have taken that pic prior to losing your balls in a denim tragedy.
tuareg
Feb-08-09, 07:30 AM
I stretch in boxers. Lots of balls flopping out action there.
Never had trouble doing splits/high kicks in jeans.
Graber
Feb-08-09, 10:43 AM
Damn man i hate this thing with startching in boxers. Cant u find some pants?
Ashtar
Feb-08-09, 07:35 PM
I like briefs, even though we think of them as constrictive, in terms of hip mobility I find them superior to boxers since there's no single seem and it tends to be made more more elastic material. The only exception is if you get those tight fabric boxers which are basically briefs with thigh-sleeves that make them like shorts.
eggmanslim
Feb-08-09, 10:02 PM
ok heres soem advise umm... i dont think you actually achieve anything wearing jeans... unless they're like a really good pair of jeans... haha wen u work out or stretch or trick you wanna wear something light. not ALWAYS and its not the ONLY way i would just suggest cuz it feels better.. (in my opinion) but ummm i pulled my back muscles and had nothing to do for about 6 weeks so i stretched... like mega hard i read soem flexing/stretching info from jujimufu on this site but not the forum one just the normal trickstutorials..but anyway i read up on a LOT of those and i got alll the way down to front splits both sides in just 3 weeks... but I trick like a maniac and i stretched like a maniac as well cuz i knew i wasnt gunan be hurt too long so i tried to get flexibilty during my healing process... and dude it helped out soo much i got flexible in 3 weeks i cant do side splits but i can do front splits both sides and my side splits are only about 6 inches off the ground so im pretty good... so yeah flexibility isnt THAT hard to achieve...but then again id stretch for a whole day haha a few days i actually sat in the house alll day and stretched... all day... if u look up isometric u can see that u can actually get into a full split in one day... though its very painful and long.( wouldnt do that it sucks) but i was obssesed with it so i did haha.... it works but the next day ur legs feel terrible like sooo painful haha and u cant do this everyday maybe 2-3 times a week but it reeeallly works... really umm dud just read up on it... theres another website that helps with a LOT of things its kinda wierd its called flashmavi.com and heres the link for the stretching if u wanted to read up on it...(http://www.flashmavi.com/stretching.shtml) my advise u might wanna get some shorts XD late
eggmanslim
Feb-08-09, 10:07 PM
oops sorry i hadnt read on your replies or whatever but umm yeah... seems u already know about it... lol it shouldnt take till may u should be able to get it with in the month but then again i wasnt that far when i started but i wasnt too close either... i did static stretching and ismteric wen i got mad cuz i wasnt going in lower with static stretching haha... but yeah stretch one thing at a time if ur knee is straight then ur doin hamstrings stretch there then switch legs then focuz on hips etc. can stretch everything at once so yeah i hope i helped some
Papa Lazarou
Feb-09-09, 03:24 AM
Paragraphs and full stops would be nice =p
Just saying before someone else obliterates you for it.
Damn man i hate this thing with startching in boxers. Cant u find some pants?
startching is quite fun
Graber
Feb-11-09, 10:10 AM
Man as u may know there are clips on the youtube saying that 500 crunches per day will not help u get six pack even that crunches are more for back lol i think there are there to scare u and buy therir fucking method.
How about 100 push ups and crunches per day?
Ashtar
Feb-15-09, 01:08 PM
startching is quite funStarting to use starch, whether in your laundry or your diet, is fabulous.
-Envy-
Feb-15-09, 02:08 PM
Man as u may know there are clips on the youtube saying that 500 crunches per day will not help u get six pack even that crunches are more for back lol i think there are there to scare u and buy therir fucking method.
How about 100 push ups and crunches per day?
You pretty much just need to diet and lose excess fat. There are plenty of kids that have six packs without doing push ups or crunches just because they're skinny.
Ewasiuk
Feb-15-09, 02:08 PM
Man as u may know there are clips on the youtube saying that 500 crunches per day will not help u get six pack even that crunches are more for back lol i think there are there to scare u and buy therir fucking method.
How about 100 push ups and crunches per day?
Lol because you don't get a six pack from crunches and you don't get a good chest from push ups. You might develop a little bit of some muscular or strength development if you can't do a lot in the beginning, but sooner or later it will only develop endurance. If you want abs, do hanging leg raises or v sits. There are tons of exercises that are better than crunches. As for the chest, bench press and dumbell presses are good depending on what you want to develop.
P.s. The crunches will stress your back if you do them incorrectly :wink:
Graber
Feb-16-09, 07:10 AM
PENIS!!!!
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