Tricking and UFC

[Taimatsu]

Seriously, how the fuck can you confuse the two?

I can be showing someone a tricking video of mine, and they will actually say, "So do you do all of that UFC cage fighting stuff?"

Seriously? Does tricking resemble fighting in EVEN THE FUCKING SLIGHTEST??

Maybe I'm just talking to a lot of idiots lately, but I keep getting that question.

Has anyone else heard this?

[Amp]

WOW, that is lame.. did you strike down any of these people?

[Safari]

Yeah by a junkie in the park ones. He was like mental unstable to and went like "I bet that if I attacked you, you would kick my ass".. I was like "no way dude, I would just run away from you I think"

[Taimatsu]

WOW, that is lame.. did you strike down any of these people?

I'm a tricker. Haha.

[Amp]

naw man just use your apparent UFC skillz... hahaha

[A_Wilhelm]

tricks don't count until you can do them in a cagefight. lawl

[Amp]

ive always wanted to 540 sum1 in the jaw...

[DYoo]

haha, oh tai.

yes i have gotten this at my school. not to the extent of UFC but pretty close.

after my friend does a flash kick,
"oh you cant do that in a real fight."
"yes i know"
"then why are you doing it? i mean maybe it'll work in the ideal situation"
"no, it really wont. we do this 'cause we like to trick. its fun"
"ok, so its like performance based."
"yeah, if you want to put it that way. we just like to do it 'cause its fun"

then he starts rambling on about how nothing we do is reasonable to do in a fight, and how he was all into some siberian martial art and our jump kicks were crap and everything.

this lasted for a good 30 minutes, i wanted to punch him in the face because he just kept insisting, after i agreed, that we couldnt use tricks in a real fight.

few minutes later, i see him do the gayest, and by far the shittest jump triple front snaps to the bag across the room, ankle height ha ha ha!. my friend and i just laughed at him for a good 15 minutes.

[tsuchinoko]

haha, oh tai.

yes i have gotten this at my school. not to the extent of UFC but pretty close.

after my friend does a flash kick,
"oh you cant do that in a real fight."
"yes i know"
"then why are you doing it? i mean maybe it'll work in the ideal situation"
"no, it really wont. we do this 'cause we like to trick. its fun"
"ok, so its like performance based."
"yeah, if you want to put it that way. we just like to do it 'cause its fun"

then he starts rambling on about how nothing we do is reasonable to do in a fight, and how he was all into some siberian martial art and our jump kicks were crap and everything.

this lasted for a good 30 minutes, i wanted to punch him in the face because he just kept insisting, after i agreed, that we couldnt use tricks in a real fight.

few minutes later, i see him do the gayest, and by far the shittest jump triple front snaps to the bag across the room, ankle height ha ha ha!. my friend and i just laughed at him for a good 15 minutes.

To make them shaddap all you need to say is that you know 'real fighting' moves and can use them in a real fight, but you also do tricks cause they look really really cool =)

[Taimatsu]

haha, oh tai.

yes i have gotten this at my school. not to the extent of UFC but pretty close.

after my friend does a flash kick,
"oh you cant do that in a real fight."
"yes i know"
"then why are you doing it? i mean maybe it'll work in the ideal situation"
"no, it really wont. we do this 'cause we like to trick. its fun"
"ok, so its like performance based."
"yeah, if you want to put it that way. we just like to do it 'cause its fun"

then he starts rambling on about how nothing we do is reasonable to do in a fight, and how he was all into some siberian martial art and our jump kicks were crap and everything.

this lasted for a good 30 minutes, i wanted to punch him in the face because he just kept insisting, after i agreed, that we couldnt use tricks in a real fight.

few minutes later, i see him do the gayest, and by far the shittest jump triple front snaps to the bag across the room, ankle height ha ha ha!. my friend and i just laughed at him for a good 15 minutes.

That's it, I've goddamn had it people!!!


GENOCIDE IS THE ONLY WAY!!!

ALL TRICKING PEOPLEZ MOVE TO SWEDEN BY APRIL 15TH!!! I'M RELEASING THE MUTHAFUCKIN NUKES ON THE REST OF THE NON TRICKING WORLD!!!

[simon]

"i have used a boxcutter in a fight"

[Taimatsu]

The other day at work, my boss was cutting some big sheets of lamination, and she yelled out "Does anyone have a boxcutter??"

I really wanted to throw one an say "MEEEEEE!! I DO!!!"

[cHiNoDaFiLiPiNo]

That's it, I've goddamn had it people!!!


GENOCIDE IS THE ONLY WAY!!!

ALL TRICKING PEOPLEZ MOVE TO SWEDEN BY APRIL 15TH!!! I'M RELEASING THE MUTHAFUCKIN NUKES ON THE REST OF THE NON TRICKING WORLD!!!
this made me LOL

but yeah that UFC garbage is pretty lame:snooze:

and wow to dyoo's story i really despise people like that. talk so much crap about things they don't know smh

[Braka]

I'm sure if you tricked like Bubba for instance it'd resemble martial arts.

Everyone these days (at least in NZ) have all seen Ong Bak so they always say "Hey is that Muay Thai?" *facepalm*

[Megabuster]

If you have such a problem with people talking smack about tricking, why not just fight them? :P Personally, I've tried raiz, 540, and butterfly kick in fights. I think the only one that didn't get me owned right away was the raiz, and that's because the other guy was like O.O what was that?!?

[Braka]

Raiz is an evasive move though.

[AdamSwaluk]

If you have such a problem with people talking smack about tricking, why not just fight them? :P Personally, I've tried raiz, 540, and butterfly kick in fights. I think the only one that didn't get me owned right away was the raiz, and that's because the other guy was like O.O what was that?!?

Because none of us want to get curb stomped. I'm not saying no one on this forum can fight, I'm just saying it's fucking dangerous and people tend to get hurt when they do it.

[Megabuster]

I guess I'm just used to people being too scared to fight me because they see my tricks and think that they'll get hurt from them. Still, I think standing up for tricking would be great, as long as you make sure you know what you're getting into before starting anything. =\

[sesshoumaru]

Seriously, how the fuck can you confuse the two?

I can be showing someone a tricking video of mine, and they will actually say, "So do you do all of that UFC cage fighting stuff?"

Seriously? Does tricking resemble fighting in EVEN THE FUCKING SLIGHTEST??

Maybe I'm just talking to a lot of idiots lately, but I keep getting that question.

Has anyone else heard this?



People are stupid...and anytime I give anyone credit, they disappoint me. This is why I treat everyone I meet like animals until they prove to me otherwise.

My high expectation leads to fail 70% of the time :eh:



Raiz is an evasive move though.



I'm really tired of this :ogre:

Just because something can be used evasively, doesn't mean it is an evasive move. I hit targets with this all the time, and I can still swing out of it and the same target again with all sorts of stuff. Raiz is really a universal technique.

[Jon P]

I'm really tired of this :ogre:

Just because something can be used evasively, doesn't mean it is an evasive move. I hit targets with this all the time, and I can still swing out of it and the same target again with all sorts of stuff. Raiz is really a universal technique.



I think people are just repeating what they have heard from things like Ben Brown's tutorial. Can't blame them...

[Braka]

Sorry! i have some footage of you hitting targets (prob with a raiz in one vid) i should of remembered.

A vid of you hitting targets would be AMAZING!

[MeatMachine]

I have butterfly kicked someone in the face (and landed it). Didnt hurt them much but still :P

[petrifilms]

yes theres always gonna be people pestering you about real fighting and flips and stupid crap...sigh

if they don't leave you alone show them this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3QPaQgTr1o

[Braka]

Seriously? Does tricking resemble fighting in EVEN THE FUCKING SLIGHTEST??


Maybe if we where just doing corks and flips it wouldn't resemble martial arts at all but thankfully some trickers still kick and what we do is MARTIAL ART tricking!

[DYoo]

To make them shaddap all you need to say is that you know 'real fighting' moves and can use them in a real fight, but you also do tricks cause they look really really cool =)

haha right, that was also part of 30 minute convo. i told him the arts ive studied under, and told him
"look, i know how to fight, and knowing this knowledge, i would not use any of this in a real fight"
"yeah because that's stupid"
"yes i know."
"so why do you do these things then?"

oh i wanted to kick him in the balls so hard.

Maybe if we where just doing corks and flips it wouldn't resemble martial arts at all but thankfully some trickers still kick and what we do is MARTIAL ART tricking!

kicks ftw! <3

[EmpRitz]

Most people just assume I can kick their ass after they see me trick. Its only the martialist idiots (boxers, compensating middle aged me at my dojo, etc) who questions it. Most of the times such comments stop after 10 secs in the sparring ring (although not because of my tricking). Thankfully all the true martial artist I know accept and understand the performance nature of tricking. All in all though what the fuck does it matter, I never let such talks get beyond "yes this wouldn't work in a fight, its meant to be flashy and pointless" after that I just ignore them. Let them continue to be ignorant and arrogant, I don't care.

[jan]

Use the whole example of "you can't use gymnastics, racecar driving, basketball or bowling in a fight either, so I guess all sports except martial arts should be stopped because they can't be used in a fight".



OR CAN YOU?!?!?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mkl9rtttog

[Papa Lazarou]

I guess I'm just used to people being too scared to fight me because they see my tricks and think that they'll get hurt from them. Still, I think standing up for tricking would be great, as long as you make sure you know what you're getting into before starting anything. =\

Or you could just say "who care?" or something awesome like that.

[MeatMachine]

Ollllld, but
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxg7KwDK3A0

And why isnt the btwist-round KO on youtube? :ogre:

[TKD_Andy]

haha

UFCTRICKS!

tricks have no place in UFC, just as UFC has no place in tricking. Because how exciting would a sampler be when the person does btwist s/t full guard to mount with an imaginary opponent.

however, if someone insists on being an asshole, just say:

"well, either way dude i can do some shit you cant even imagine."

:pwing:

[Adotindie]

I disagree and know tricking can be used in fighting
It depends on the tricker.
For example ; if your the type that
Constantly drill your kicks then the overall tricking would be more effective,
But if your just in it for the flips then yea....you'd be assed out in a real fight.
Remember fellow tricksters ... Trick to kill LOL or at least imagine

[Torre]

wat.

[TrickinNINJA]

tornado kicks

[Monstyr]

I absolutely love it when people say that tricking isn't useful in a fight... no shit?
and then they say that its pointless if you can't use it in a fight. skateboarding isn't useful in a fight either, but people still do that =/

[k1stone]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtKSmHlzUf0
:tongue:

[Ryan Murray]

Kung Fu forms are barely useful at all in a fight, but people still practice them.

[DYoo]

Use the whole example of "you can't use gymnastics, racecar driving, basketball or bowling in a fight either, so I guess all sports except martial arts should be stopped because they can't be used in a fight".



OR CAN YOU?!?!?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mkl9rtttog


i am saying that i do gymkata from now on. haha this was win.

I disagree and know tricking can be used in fighting
It depends on the tricker.
For example ; if your the type that
Constantly drill your kicks then the overall tricking would be more effective,
But if your just in it for the flips then yea....you'd be assed out in a real fight.
Remember fellow tricksters ... Trick to kill LOL or at least imagine

uuuh, as much as i would like to agree with you. your opponent isnt going to just stand there. its a high risk, VERY low gain to even try a trick in a fight.

[ninjitsian]

I disagree and know tricking can be used in fighting
It depends on the tricker.
For example ; if your the type that
Constantly drill your kicks then the overall tricking would be more effective,
But if your just in it for the flips then yea....you'd be assed out in a real fight.
Remember fellow tricksters ... Trick to kill LOL or at least imagine

you have got to be fucking joking. please tell me that you are.

[ninjitsian]

Kung Fu forms are barely useful at all in a fight, but people still practice them.

depends on which style of kung fu you're talking about in my opinion.

[DarkXacreD]

Well if you do a b-twist into someone, it'd kinda be like a body slam with backspin.

[Andy Longcat]

I like how everyone pretends that every chump in the street actually KNOWS how to fight.

Lol

[A_Wilhelm]

I like how everyone pretends martial arts would actually be useful beyond sport purposes. LAWL

[EmpRitz]

I like how everyone pretends martial arts would actually be useful beyond sport purposes. LAWL

Depends on your art. Krav Maga, Mui Tai, MMA, practical BJJ are defenently all very effective. Tradition, kata based Kenpo, Karate, Kung Fu, not really. But majority of mordern styles are blended and mixed to the point that they will give you the edge. The much more important factor in my experince is how seriously and how dedicated the students are to training and practicing well.

[A_Wilhelm]

Depends on your art. Krav Maga, Mui Tai, MMA, practical BJJ are defenently all very effective. Tradition, kata based Kenpo, Karate, Kung Fu, not really. But majority of mordern styles are blended and mixed to the point that they will give you the edge. The much more important factor in my experince is how seriously and how dedicated the students are to training and practicing well.

I'm well aware of the fact that some type of martial arts can be effective in a fight (under certain guidelines), but that wasn't even my point.

In our society it isn't of any use at all, because of a several reasons.

1. There isn't really a reason to fight for in modern day life (as in private modern day life), nor is it an applied principle to solve arguments anymore.

2. Even if it were, mankind uses weapons since thousands of years. and at the moment the first weapon was discovered (even a stone is sufficient in this case) all kinds of fist fight became more and more useless. And even if you argue that martial arts can also include weapons, do you really want to fight a tank with a knife?

3. Quantity always wins against quality unless weapons are involved. Just because you practice some kind of martial arts 2 times a week in your freetime doesn't make you to some kind of Jet Li like action hero who succesfully fights hundreds of enemies as the one.

4. Physical abilities are more important than technical abilities in most cases. A small karate bluebelt of 15 years can't stand any chance against a 115 kg guy who's 4 times as strong as him. And this also applies on much smaller differences between the opponents.

5. Things like inhibition level, general level of agression, and practice in real situations (not just sparring) are way more important than the right technique. heck, in most cases there isn't even much technique when it's just about punshing someone. A bar fighter will beat up most martial artists.

6. It's more than unlikely if someone get's into a fight if he doesn't want to and isn't stupid. And if he get's it's even more unlikely that martial arts would help him.

7. Fighting for other supposes than sport is plainly stupid. Grow up you are neither in kindergarden, nor in stone age anymore.

8. Most martial artist think they're sooo awesome for doing martial arts and that it makes them sooo good at fighting, that they'll loose for that thinking alone.

And this list could go on and on.

And yeah I'll know, people will probably come up with 2 examples to defend MA. Firts being security personal at night clubs and stuff. But you should realize that they always make sure that there are a few security guys on one guy. The opponents are nearly always drunk. And the security personal uses weapons if the situation escalates.

Another example in favour of MA is usually that krav maga and a few others are used by the military. But they only use it if they kill their opponent silent and quick from behind, or if they have no other oportunity because they have no weapons. It's not like the soldiers in the iraq use krav maga, or good old fist fights.

Martial artists should get the stick out of their ass and realise that it's just a normal sport like every other. And thinking that you're cool or have better chances in a fight because you do martial arts is plainly stupid.

Same goes for people who fight for other purposes than saving their or other peoples lifes. Seriously come on guys, what I read in this thread about punching someone for talking shit, are you serious? lol.

If you get into another fight I'll speak to your parents and you'll get grounded! lawl

[Badams]

A Wilhelm = Mr.Civilized

:bad:

[Torre]

Some OK points there, but some are bullshit haha.

edit: yes, I'm lazy to elaborate

[tsuchinoko]

Martial artists should get the stick out of their ass and realise that it's just a normal sport like every other. And thinking that you're cool or have better chances in a fight because you do martial arts is plainly stupid.



You fool! Have you not seen Steven Seagal??!?! His Aikido skills are nothing short of breath taking. His years of training are of no waste because he can destroy ANYONE. Even Kimbo!

[Goki]

GYMKATA...
WTF HAHAH, seriously, there truly was a time when America had everything:smile:

[MeatMachine]

Back to the original subject of this thread, kind of, yesterday James and I were having a superlight session and some guy saw us doing cartwheel variations and me trying to re-learn my btwists, and pretty much knew what we were doing straight away!

him: "Hey is that some kind of non-contact martial art you're doing?"
me: "Yeah kind of!"
him: "Is it like tai-chi or something?" (lol)
me: *explains tricking*
him: "Oh cool I'm going to look that up in a minute"
me: TRICKSTUTORIALS.COM

Shows not everyone is ignorant :P Though I am assuming he was a martial artist of some kind (looked like he might be a kickboxer or something), we weren't even doing any kicks. I guess some people have an eye for this kind of stuff.

Its always refreshing to have someone recognise trickers as martial artists and not parkourers or whatever :)

[dpitlock]

http://www.diseaseproof.com/MuscleMilkNYT.jpg

[jan]

I like how everyone pretends martial arts would actually be useful beyond sport purposes. LAWL

DON'T DISS THE AP CHAGI!

[A_Wilhelm]

I'm not dissing anything. I don't even care. :tongue:
It's just that every good martial artist or self defense trainer I've spoken to about that subject have said the same.
The only purpose of self defense training is to be confident enough to scream for help, run away, and maybe kick to the groin.

Also the only real situations where you have to defent yourself is against criminals and in that case they have weapons like knifes and guns anyway. And even the best self defense trainers say they have maybe a 20% chance against someone with a weapon if they're lucky. And they highly advise everyone to just do what the criminals demand.

I someone wants to defend themslef they should better carry a electroshocker or pepperspray or dependend on their neighbourhood a knife or gun (if you're living in the ghetto or what not)

So martial arts only works in little scuffles and in that case the martial artist himself is most likely a ruffian himself, because it's really not that hard to avoid such situations. And to be honest quotes like if he talks shit about your tricks or about martial arts, beat them up, is kinda a proof of this.

I didn't mean to start an argument or discussion. it's just everyone I've met in real life who said he could apply martial arts in a street fight, wasn't even good enough to succesfully apply it in training (even though he may be training for several years and has a blue or brown belt or soemthin like that), knew crap, and was generally dumb and bigheaded. So to me his whole subject is rather laughable.

This doesn't mean that people like bas rutten (whos awesome ahah) and other mma fighter aren't very likely to win every bar fight. but that's because they're nearly bar fighter themselves to be honest.

I was just saying that most situations in which martial arts could help you just occur because you provoke or accept them, and are anyway much unlikely to cause more harm than an headache or a little bleeding.

And thinking martial arts would help you in situations where you really need to defend yourself aginst people who really want and are able to harm you is rather stupid in my opinion. Just like this discussion or violence in general.

[Tricia...]

1. <3333 Bas Rutten XDD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3K-mrlYG7Y
hahahaha


2.

The only purpose of self defense training is to be confident enough to scream for help, run away, and maybe kick to the groin.

Also the only real situations where you have to defent yourself is against criminals and in that case they have weapons like knifes and guns anyway. And even the best self defense trainers say they have maybe a 20% chance against someone with a weapon if they're lucky. And they highly advise everyone to just do what the criminals demand.

I someone wants to defend themslef they should better carry a electroshocker or pepperspray or dependend on their neighbourhood a knife or gun (if you're living in the ghetto or what not)


No no... I totally pwned a guy who's about 5'11 170 lbs (or iunno. I'm really bad at judging weight, but he's a bit chubs) (I'm 5'4 115, 120 ish) with some juijitsu knowledge. It helps. I think one just needs to be really good at judging a situation. That's all. Martial arts also helps build reflexes which helps with eliminating the time it takes for the shock that someone is trying to hurt you to go away. So, saying martial arts doesn't help at all whatsoever is dumb... cuz it does.

[Skilzat85X]

It's simply one means to arrive at the same end that someone else can through a different method obviously. At least, in talking about useless combat.

[A_Wilhelm]

No no... I totally pwned a guy who's about 5'11 170 lbs (or iunno. I'm really bad at judging weight, but he's a bit chubs) (I'm 5'4 115, 120 ish) with some juijitsu knowledge. It helps. I think one just needs to be really good at judging a situation. That's all. Martial arts also helps build reflexes which helps with eliminating the time it takes for the shock that someone is trying to hurt you to go away. So, saying martial arts doesn't help at all whatsoever is dumb... cuz it does.

I never said it was completely useless. I don't know the situation you were in, so I can't say anything about that, but it doesn't sound like he was actually a real criminal who tried to shoot or rape you. And I actually said that it is usefull in situations which are relatively harmless anyway. But I highly doubt that you could defend yourself against a one or even a group of criminals who really want to harm you, have some criminal potential and maybe even weapons.

I however think it's good for women to have some martial arts or self defense experiences for the reasons I stated in the beginning of my last post, as well as the ones you just mentioned. I still believe though, that some pepperspray or an electroshocker would be more effective and secure for women as well as in general.

I myself have been doing judo for 11 years or something, have a blackbelt since several years, and teach judo since 6 years for 5 hours a week. I just mention this because I don't want to make the impression that I'm not at all knowing what I'm talking about. I don't claim to have more knowledge on thios subject than anyone else, am always willing to listen to more competent people and all ideas in general and definately don't wnat to stroke my online dick. (How would that even be possible, judo isn't that great, it bores me since 2 years, and I couldn't care less about it.)

I was just stating my opinion and experiences about it. You can however say that my opinion isn't relevant because I haven't been in a fight since early primary school, and never started fights myself, and therefore don't know what I'm talking about. But to be honest I couldn't care less. This whole discussion is way too useless anyway.

[Torre]

Oh man, I could write some Skilzat-like posts about this, but as you said, it's pretty useless :tongue:

[stevenadrien]

And for those who still don't get it, he's just saying that it doesn't take a black belt to punch someone in the face..

[Adotindie]

Thank you,
Who ever thinks fighting is primitive needs to take their head
Out of their ass and wake up,
I've Been fighting my whole life and never lost (and I never wanted to or started the situation),
And that was off pure instinct,
I grew up and lived in all the worst parts of brooklyn and I currently live in brownsville,
The way disputes are solved around here always end in violence,
If your not from somewhere don't speak on it because your words would be just another ignorant opinion,
Idc who I offend,
Oh and the trickster that starts off his fights with tricks
Digs his own grave,
Obviously normal stationary attacks ( wich are drilled daily )comes first,
In my case tricks are only added wen the oppenent is tired or disoriented,
Remember people used to use wat we tricksters consider simple moves to fend off invaders and they actually depended on their skill for survival,
We've evolved those simple moves by mixing ALL forms into one.
So believing that this is only usefull for a fucking kick in the dick is pure ignorance

[540Ninja]

I don't know what kind of training people have when they say martial arts will not be effective in a 'real fight.' When drilled properly, simple blocks and strikes can easily be used in a fight, possibly more advanced joint locks ect...

The vast majority of fights I have seen in person(usually at school) the kids will be mindlessly flailing their arms about with no sense of what they're doing.

I don't know from experience exactly because I'm not one to look for a fight, but I have applied kung fu techniques in contact sparring.

However I will side with A Wilhelm in that it will be unreliable when it comes to someone with a weapon that intends to seriously injure or kill you.

[DYoo]

However I will side with A Wilhelm in that it will be unreliable when it comes to someone with a weapon that intends to seriously injure or kill you.

not entirely. if its a gun, yeah, but guns are gay. if you train for disabling etc. then martial arts can still go a long way.

TAI LOOK WHAT YOU HAVE DONE!

[540Ninja]

not entirely. if its a gun, yeah, but guns are gay. if you train for disabling etc. then martial arts can still go a long way.

TAI LOOK WHAT YOU HAVE DONE!

You seem like a reasonable man, DYoo. I agree.


Prepare for flame by the non believers.

[DYoo]

OH NOEZ! must...get fire extinguisher.

[BboyShinez]

I agree with DYoo on this subject...partially
Ive taken five-point kung fu and although I would'nt use the techniques in a real fight it did give me alot of mental training and insight on the thought process of an opponent before a fight, and how to disturb it to use it to your advantage....
Ive also took judo, TKD, and Wushu, none of which was practically applyable as the short training I had in Fpoint KF.

Also living in Chicago ive come to realize the winner of most street fights here has already won the fight before it had started, in a way.
Wheater it be a size advantage, a weapon advantage, but most of the time its a pure mental advantage, when one of the individuals has been in so many hostile situations there is zero hesitation in dealing a deadly blow and zero fear of taking one.
For example, there are Navy Seals who are trained to be able to literally disarm a armed individual at point blank range in less then the time it would take for the trigger to be pulled (about 1/3 a second).....and although all of us have the ability to do this its the slight second hesitation from seeing a gun at your head that costs us....
And themore effective forms of martial arts can teach you to overcome that second of hesitation and deal a reactive blow to your attacker, even if they are carrying a weapon there is the same second of hesitation they will face before potentially murdering someone, which you can be trained to useto your advantage.

[The13thAce]

hey guys which martial art is the best for tricking!? i'm trying to get into it!

[ninjitsian]

i take hung garr and wing chun kung fu. i think that hung gar trains your body to be durable rather than use techniques, but wing chun is like chinese boxing, and it builds reaction, fast twitch muscle and technique. even if people think that martial arts these days are "useless" dont take it personal and i dont even think that it should be debated. to many variables, too many stubborn people, too much of everything all packed into this one little thread. for goodness sake let them hold heir opinion.

bottom line is- you think your martial arts is useful? spar with a random person and see how effective it is.

for love of god, tricking is not applicable in fighting.

and last but not least, if you love martial arts, you should be taking it because you enjoy and want o preserve that specific type of "art," and not because you want to learn how to stylishly kill people. you wanna kill someone? get a gun, a heavy object, or something sharp, and aim for the head. then you can teach your own fucking "martial art".


hey guys which martial art is the best for tricking!? i'm trying to get into it!

martial arts tricking is the best for tricking

[frankinstine]

I was going to make some points about some shit, but all I can think right now is Wat tha fak.

[DYoo]

and last but not least, if you love martial arts, you should be taking it because you enjoy and want o preserve that specific type of "art," and not because you want to learn how to stylishly kill people. you wanna kill someone? get a gun, a heavy object, or something sharp, and aim for the head. then you can teach your own fucking "martial art".


what about martial arts that kill people. lol, ie ninjutsu, shaolin kung fu. etc.

either way, i do agree, people are stubborn, just like people get into fights. we're all going to hold onto what we believe is true.

with fights not needing martial arts, i completely agree. a fight, whether you know martial arts or not, is just a brawl, hitting, biting, kicking, elbowing, whatever you want to do goes on the street. however, i do believe that knowing martial arts can help you understand the way your body will react, i mean, take a guy who's being practice a sidekick for 10 years, breaking the cement blocks and etc, i can guarantee you that if you got hit by that thing full on, you would not be every happy. martial arts can and will help you hone your body to attacks, even attacks with weapons (just because using a weapon limits the way your body can move, unless its a gun like i mentioned earlier -GUN KATA!).

but in all seriousness, martial arts is an art, and another way we can express ourselves. learning how to use our body, both physically and mentally, can give us the edge in fights.


and matt, i love you. :D haha.

[Taimatsu]

hey guys which martial art is the best for tricking!? i'm trying to get into it!

I'd try my favorite art:

FOK!

[tsuchinoko]

Yesterday I showed this guy a video of Mr Double ABCD ATG '09.
We watched the whole thing, and he was really impressed by it.

...

Then, he says "That's cool, but I don't see why that would be very good in a fight..."

I was like "?!?!"

ITS FREAKIN FLIPS, ITS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH FIGHTING YOU RETARD


...

[Skilzat85X]

Obviously you could have calmly and moderately explained that to him in a sentence or two and had a nice laugh and a good time without having to feel like a cock afterwards.

[tsuchinoko]

Obviously you could have calmly and moderately explained that to him in a sentence or two and had a nice laugh and a good time without having to feel like a cock afterwards.

The situation went like this:

"I don't see how that can be used in a fight..."

I replied solemly "ahaha"

And we continued on watching...

Even though in my mind I was like "Geez, freakin damn man, it's flips, how can you even think of fighting with it?"

I just had to quietly ignore his comment and be polite =)

[Skilzat85X]

Aww you're such a good guy. :smile:

[540Ninja]

That reminds me of an argument I had today with this kid that insisted if you don't enjoy ball sports, then you must be a complete freak. Needless to say the close minded little fuck still did not understand my hate for baseball even after I thoroughly explained it to him.

[Tricia...]

The situation went like this:

"I don't see how that can be used in a fight..."

I replied solemly "ahaha"

And we continued on watching...

Even though in my mind I was like "Geez, freakin damn man, it's flips, how can you even think of fighting with it?"

I just had to quietly ignore his comment and be polite =)

why'd you let him continue to be uneducated on the purpose of tricking?? lol

Someone actually said that to me while I was tricking once. All I had to say was, "it's not for fighting."
him: Oh.

[TKD_Andy]

DON'T DISS THE AP CHAGI!

it was a karate practicioner who used an ap chagi to beat Kimbo Slice.

fact

the easiest way to get yourself out of this kind of situation is to ask them who their favourite fighter is in UFC/Pride etc. If they pick someone with good technical skill or someone who is known for their tactics and fight strategy then agree with them, however if they say something like "the dude with the bleached hair" or "the black guy who used to be in NFL" you can safely assume they have the same IQ as the lint in your pocket and if you say nothing and walk away sideways, you'll escape their field of vision without them ever knowing.

[shengoikee]

is dislike MMA more than most things i can think of.

[Adotindie]

i agree with tkd andy and WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO I HATE MMA ,

[dpitlock]

tricking and UFC are the exact same thing.

[frankinstine]

I showed my cousin a video of sessh and he was all about how he could use tricks to fight. I told him that even guys who trick really well will admit its nothing about fighting, he still told me it would be.

I did a front flip in his direction later and he tried telling me about how i could just modify the technique a liiiiiittle and it would be great in a fight!

[dpitlock]

lmfao
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qLMooHY12Y

[Birch]

it was a karate practicioner who used an ap chagi to beat Kimbo Slice.

fact

the easiest way to get yourself out of this kind of situation is to ask them who their favourite fighter is in UFC/Pride etc. If they pick someone with good technical skill or someone who is known for their tactics and fight strategy then agree with them, however if they say something like "the dude with the bleached hair" or "the black guy who used to be in NFL" you can safely assume they have the same IQ as the lint in your pocket and if you say nothing and walk away sideways, you'll escape their field of vision without them ever knowing.

HAHAHA that has got to be the funniest thing I have ever seen Andy post! :good: