Bendy fat people? o.0

[DaraZol]

So I’m about as flexible as a fridge. And after I lose some weight I’m going to start tricking and I want some good foundations for a base flexibility. So what are some good starting exercises I can do while I’m still fat haha:tongue:?

[tdmonster]

Well the front page has a nice flexibility article. But I recommend picking 3-5 stretches for each body part.

[Papa Lazarou]

Read forum. Read main page. Read.

(Good luck by the way).

[Jackamaideshwang]

Fat won't limit you too much with flexibility, unless your getting out of breath from stretching or you can't reach past your gut. Luckily it seems you don't have any of these attributes from your picture, so just jump into it! Strength training in unison with flexibility training tends to yeild the best results - and great for weight loss. Get into it and stretch after every workout, set some goals and reep the rewards! Have fun.

[DeMaar]

http://www.trickstutorials.com/index.php?page=content/flx3

[DaraZol]

Yes don’t get me wrong I have read all that (I wouldn’t post if I had not) but I can’t lift my legs 45 degrees without bending them like a upside down V (yes I’m very stiff). So I thought maybe there are some “easier” ways to get the same result.

Or dose it not matter how far I raise them as long as I lift without bending my legs without external force?

Edit:
And by the way I would not say “out of breath” but I’m breathing a lot heavier. After trying all the Lower body stretches 3 times (not 3 sets just lifting my leg 3 times)

[Skippy]

Yes don’t get me wrong I have read all that (I wouldn’t post if I had not) but I can’t lift my legs 45 degrees without bending them like a upside down V (yes I’m very stiff). So I thought maybe there are some “easier” ways to get the same result.



God damn it, things like this are why people are overweight in the first place.

Just get it done man, things take time.

[DaraZol]

Or dose it not matter how far I raise them as long as I lift without bending my legs without external force?


Not trying to be an ass but read stuff in context will you, before saying stuff like that. If it dose not matte as long as I extend my leg to my capability there is no problem. But if I need to extend my leg to my face to get the right stretch I have to brake my leg witch I’m not inclined to do thus I asked for a “easier way” a different way (if you will) to stretch the same muscles.

Btw nice way to encouraged new members and take note to the “”

[[RozoN]]

what the hell are you on about? Breaking a leg while you're stretching? How the fuck is that even possible?!?

[Miojo]

LAAWWWLL

[BrandonLenz]

The content of this thread is almost as retarded as that of a troll.

[DaraZol]

No I’m not a “troll” but it seams I must be retarded or something seeing how you don’t seam to understand me. I’m not afraid that my leg will brake if I stretch too hard. I was merely pointing out that I have to break (dislocate my leg) to be able to get it to my face.

Without external force (lifting my leg by itself) while still keeping it strait my max capability is like 40-45 degrees.

With eternal force (leaning on a table or whatever) I am able to maybe get it 45-50 degrees.

To have my leg parallel with my body and my foot right in front of my face ill have to break(dislocate) my leg at this point.

I am referring to the first stretch on the main site
http://www.trickstutorials.com/index.php?page=content/flx3
The picture is “Front lift stretch [4]”

So just to clarify my two questions were

1. can I practise this stretch to my capability (40-45 degrees) and still stretch the same muscles as the one he stretches in the picture

If not

2. Is there another way to stretch them without the (150-180 degree) bend? Because I’m not flexible enough to do that yet.

In question nr2 I’m not asking for the “easy way” out. Nor am I afraid of breaking my leg during stretching. If you still don’t understand my retarded formulation off text, please read my past posts two more times. Seeing how all my posts in this thread seams to be me trying to explain my previous post. If you still don’t understand what I’m saying pleas quote the phrase and ask what it means. Instead of just calling me an “lazy-overweight-retarded-troll” seems to be the general agreement here.


And for fuck sake READ the fucking sentence in it ORIGINAL CONTEXT.
I never said that I’m going to break my leg if I stretch.
Or
I never asked for the easy way out.

[[RozoN]]

I think you misunderstood the purpose and execution of this stretch, dude. See, what juji is doing in this stretch is basically linfting his leg up and down, up and down. It's like a front kick without chamber.

Just keep on "waving" your leg up and down for several repetitions and sets. Just keep on lifting the leg as high as you can and hopefully, you will see progress after a while. Stretching isn't complicated. You're still stretching, whether you're able to lift your leg to your waist or to your head - there's not difference.

Edit: I think juji had videos on each dynamic stretch he was doing, somewhere on that page. Watch them and replicate it in the style of "monkey see monkey do"

[Ashtar]

Work on building strength through a full range of motion. Doing good mornings even with your bodyweight (because your fat is like the barbell) will strengthen the hamstrings in a stretched position, for example.

This will help meet your weight loss goals, and unlike partial RoM lockout BS it will aid in flexibility.

You can do stretches, you just might need to focus more on endurance, because the weight makes it harder to relax and go further into a stretch.

The thing is, there are some obese people who have awesome flexibility. There's a fat contortionist, and that disgusting 1200lb mexican naturally sits in full splits on his bed as his blobs are massaged by bleeding heart idiots.

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r195/gnrsnkpt/worlds-fattest-man.jpg

Actually exercising will cause muscular damage and tension, whereas sitting on your bed, you have nothing to do but get the splits anyway. It was probably a necessity for him to be able to give others access to wipe his ass.

http://www.manueluribe.com/manuel/fotos/manuelportada.JPG

Does anyone speak spanish so you would know how to make posts on his forum? http://manueluribe.com/foros/index.php

[[RozoN]]

Are you fucking me in the ass, Ashtar?

[Ashtar]

I am trying to induce despair.

[DaraZol]

After a quick wakeup call today and I’m leaving this forum. Thanks for all the input and stuff, I’m not leaving because of this little “argument” just realized that there are more important things to do.

I will continue training and if I remember this forum when I can consider myself a tricker I may post my progress vid on here until then.

GLHF, DaraZol

[[RozoN]]

Are you fucking me in the ass, DaraZol?! What the hell?

[DaraZol]

Yes hard and vigorously, now shut up and take it like a man!:tongue:

[Graber]

I sow that guy before and that is disgusting, If he can do splits this might make u thing how pathetic u ppl are stretching for ages and still nothing.
Is amazing how a fat ppl like him can wipe u all form the water.

[Martial Way]

Yeah I saw a documentary on him. I'm not sure how his weight loss has progressed if at all.

[CompGeek812]

If you cannot lift your legs high enough to stretch them you need to build the muscles in that area before you can stretch them properly. I'd start with basic stretches that you can do where you feel the area being stretched (if you are looking at the page stick with trunk and upper body stretches).

[Ashtar]

The fat guy is an example of how you can attain flexibility without the adequate strength to support yourself in a stretched position.

That guy could not stand up, much less do a horse stance or anything. The reason he can do them is firstly because he can't even get his legs together because fat prevents adduction. It's also because they never bear any weight so they just naturally relax.

He naturally pulls them apart to stabilize himself from falling off the bed because his arms and core aren't enough for that.

[Martial Way]

Man, could you imagine how much water retention is in his legs? Think of the laxatives they would have him on to reduce swelling

[k-slash]

Some people are just stupid haha.

[Martial Way]

Who would drink a glass of his bath water for a 100 bucks?

I bet it would be like queso with little red things floating in it

[Ashtar]

Yes, he actually has a therapist come in and massage his legs to help the lymph nodes, because they're swollen with waste. The lack of movement and stuff prevents it from working, so what limited immune system he has can't heal it, so he's got infections and absesses and shit.

I'd need a bit more than $100, like I might do it for a grand. He seems to live in a somewhat sterile environment so I think my immune could handle it. On the other hand he's from Mexico so I change my mind.

[-Envy-]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/145/425109501_52845f471e.jpg?v=1174219512
Sumos have excellent flexibility while being fat. You'll just have to work hard and stretch.

[-Envy-]

I sow that guy before and that is disgusting, If he can do splits this might make u thing how pathetic u ppl are stretching for ages and still nothing.
Is amazing how a fat ppl like him can wipe u all form the water.

Hahaha.

[Ashtar]

Yeah sumos are an example of people with the muscle to handle their own weight, unlike the mexicans. Speaking of ultimate sumos: Chiyonofuji

[Graber]

Man those fat bastards have some Side Split flexibility but thier Front Split\hamstrings flexibility i am sure it sucks.
I sow in a movie that some of tham where forcing a sumo guy with the butterfly stretch, I mean a fat bastard just hop! on other sumo knees, and there was pain and scream, that is stupid thats not the way to do it.

[Ashtar]

It's not the safest way. These guys aren't worried about safe, they're worried about fast progress where only the strong survive. Those whose muscles are not utterly torn beyond repair grow back stronger. Those who are injured are probably kicked out of the stable. Also: I don't think all sumos train that way, it might just be one rogue stable the director picked for his film because it's so shocking.

[lostfoxeh]

If you think of fat as more of wearing a weighted vest then you could if you have the strength to weight ratio trick even if your 200lb over weight (that would be one strong person) and same would apply to stretching, only thing you would have to worry about is your fat/weight vest getting in the way of your stretches. Unless you are naturally flexible or a yoga instructor or something to that effect you will probably lose the weight be for it actually gets in the way. Does that mean it'll be easy? Nope, just like wearing a weighted vest, it's harder cause you tire quicker. So you have to be a tough person to stick to it and not give up. You can physically do nearly every safe stretch there is (plow is not a safe stretch even for a skinny person) so the rest is your mind set.

Hope that helps some.

[Ashtar]

You don't need a strength-weight ratio to become flexible. This can help because of the whole comfortable thing, but if you use advanced means of relaxation then your body will allow you to relax enough to enter a position you can't get yourself out of.

It is just harder to relax to that degree, being stronger means you don't have to be as good at relaxing, because you just do it instinctively due to feeling strong and safe.

Like, you see how there are many contortionists who have people who train them. They learn to totally relax and give control of their body over to this person. My guess is fat mexican had the same thing, he has people moving him around in his bed, and probably a pulley he can get himself up with, and the bed is all soft, with no threats like wolves or terrorists to make him stiffen up.

[andyzzle]

The content of this thread is almost as retarded as that of a troll.

signed!

45 degrees is like walking, are you saying you're not capable of walking?
(don't get this wrong, not trying to be an asshole either, i just don't get it?!?!):eh:

[Ashtar]

You can walk with less than 45 degrees range of motion.

[andyzzle]

You can walk with less than 45 degrees range of motion.
= it's like walking, i didn't say it is walking:wink: