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Phil D
Apr-24-09, 09:43 AM
are you a tap and go-er or do you fully rest the weight on the floor for each rep?

Skippy
Apr-24-09, 09:46 AM
It's a deadlift, I put that shit back on the floor haha. Not if it's just warm ups though, warm ups I do just tap and go.

Aiden Bloodaxe
Apr-24-09, 09:53 AM
I deadlift, not 'bouncelift'

Phil D
Apr-24-09, 09:58 AM
I deadlift, not 'bouncelift'

what are the benefits of fully relaxing after each rep? Personally i do but iv been thinking that the massive increase in time the working muscles are under tension would be a benefit in terms of hypertrophy?

tpvlyrm
Apr-24-09, 10:03 AM
I deadlift, not 'bouncelift'

touch-and-go doesn't mean bouncing it, not at all.


I used to always do touch-and-go, then switched to full resets, standing up between reps. After a couple of years I returned to the former style.
I find touch-and-go, or with a slight pause but keeping tight and in form at the bottom, to be much more agreeable. It makes the exercise more tiring in the right ways and less tiring in the wrong ways. Also I find it much easier to keep good form when not resetting between reps. Lowering the bar slowly is also something I prefer, rather than the Pavel-promoted quick lowerings, almost dropping it, which I practiced for quite some time before finally doing what I thought was best.

Swartz
Apr-24-09, 10:26 AM
I tap and go.

chicanerous
Apr-24-09, 10:42 AM
what are the benefits of fully relaxing after each rep? Personally i do but iv been thinking that the massive increase in time the working muscles are under tension would be a benefit in terms of hypertrophy?
It's not really an increase in TUT. It just means you lose the benefit of a stretch reflex, which is countered with slightly increased recovery.

Phil D
Apr-24-09, 10:52 AM
It's not really an increase in TUT. It just means you lose the benefit of a stretch reflex, which is countered with slightly increased recovery.

surely you would only get a stretch reflex occuring during rapid 'bouncing' of the weight not my controlled lowering of the weight an only tapping the floor ?

tpvlyrm
Apr-24-09, 11:01 AM
surely you would only get a stretch reflex occuring during rapid 'bouncing' of the weight not my controlled lowering of the weight an only tapping the floor ?

You probably get a much greater stretch reflex with a controlled lowering, staying tight. Fast lowering leaves you with nothing at the bottom, just loose muscles and no tension to spring back up with.

You can surely feel this yourself. When you lower slowly, keeping everything tight, the weight comes off the ground for the next rep rather easily.

L7frost
Apr-24-09, 11:06 AM
I fully rest the weight after each rep.

ive been wondering this for a while though..when I'm coming down, I let the bar go about 4 or 5 inches above the ground and just let it drop before resetting and doing my next rep. Is this okay?

Ive also noticed a lot of guys at the gym are deadlifting and letting their lower back round out before the pull the bar off the floor. This is wrong right? Am I correct in thinking you should be deadlifting with your back as straight as possible?

Swartz
Apr-24-09, 11:18 AM
I shall specify and make it clear that my tap and go is no bounce but a rather slow controlled movement throughout. I don't see the point in just letting it sit there for more than half a second.

Phil D
Apr-24-09, 11:23 AM
I shall specify and make it clear that my tap and go is no bounce but a rather slow controlled movement throughout. I don't see the point in just letting it sit there for more than half a second.

to be honest the only benefit i think i get is a chance to quickly adjust my grip

anfeyd
Apr-24-09, 11:37 AM
I set it down because I prefer the extra second to allow my body to relax and my grip to reset. My cadence can be seen here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ6_1QM9d4Y

Rahf
Apr-24-09, 11:40 AM
Same as anfeyd. Set it down, lose tension from the barbell and then pull again. I prefer not breaking my form once I've got it down on the first pull.

Ryu Sujin
Apr-24-09, 11:47 AM
Anfeyd, is there any specific reason why you use the grip you're using? Do you vary your grip style for the deadlift, or mainly stick to one type?

Swartz
Apr-24-09, 12:19 PM
I set it down because I prefer the extra second to allow my body to relax and my grip to reset. My cadence can be seen here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ6_1QM9d4Y

That makes sense I suppose, though I find the alternate grip to be beneficial in terms of not needing to reset the grip so much.

TKD_Andy
Apr-24-09, 12:26 PM
i find that if you do a full plant down between each rep, you can keep a constant breathing rate, and have a full breath in/out without the weight on you, but you're still in position to lift.

anfeyd
Apr-24-09, 12:36 PM
Anfeyd, is there any specific reason why you use the grip you're using? Do you vary your grip style for the deadlift, or mainly stick to one type?

I'm using a double overhand grip. The benefit of resetting between each rep is that you can adjust when you know your grip will fail. So, if i'm going for 5 reps and on rep 4 my grip is the shits, I will reset the grip to a hook grip.

I generally don't pull mixed. I double overhand when I can, hook if that grip fails. Down the line if I ever get strong enough I will switch to mixed because I will probably need it if I ever get my max high enough.

And Swartz, the mixed grip involves less resetting because it's a lot easier (grip wise) to hold the bar that way.

Yes Andy that is another reason I forgot to mention.

Lees Dragon
Apr-24-09, 01:47 PM
Sweet thread.
Thats good insight that I shoulda looked up a while ago. :smile:

Swartz
Apr-24-09, 06:47 PM
And Swartz, the mixed grip involves less resetting because it's a lot easier (grip wise) to hold the bar that way.
You're just repeated what I said/already know haha. Anyway...

shengoikee
Apr-24-09, 07:01 PM
i throw the barbell around like a dirty whore.

anfeyd
Apr-24-09, 07:14 PM
You're just repeated what I said/already know haha. Anyway...

Perhaps I should have said, even if you're pulling heavily enough you'll probably have to reset your grip even if you're using mixed so put some weight on the bar fag.

shengoikee
Apr-24-09, 07:15 PM
how's this month's period, anfeyd?

anfeyd
Apr-24-09, 07:31 PM
I don't know Dave, how's yours?

Swartz
Apr-24-09, 07:42 PM
Perhaps I should have said, even if you're pulling heavily enough you'll probably have to reset your grip even if you're using mixed so put some weight on the bar fag.

Ouch.

anfeyd
Apr-24-09, 07:42 PM
It's obviously a joke Swartz man, I'd never do anything intentionally to harm your feelings.

anfeyd
Apr-24-09, 07:43 PM
Swartz was the first trickster I ever IMed after finding TT.

He sent me video's of his front flip. True story.

Swartz
Apr-24-09, 07:44 PM
It's obviously a joke Swartz man, I'd never do anything intentionally to harm your feelings.
IT'S TOO LATE FOR MY BROKEN HEART.
Swartz was the first trickster I ever IMed after finding TT.

He sent me video's of his front flip. True story.
Well one of us remembers that at least.

Imperial
Apr-24-09, 07:48 PM
Great thread on deadlift technique. I was doing them barely touching the ground, controlled, then going into another rep w/ little to no rest in between - my grip was both pronated and kept assing up but now i'll try it with mixed. I notice here people do romanian more than stiff legged deadlift. Anyone know the benefits of each variation?

Kitosho
Apr-24-09, 10:25 PM
He sent me video's of his front flip. True story.





What was that, a week ago?


As for my deadlift, I put a 25 on each side of the bar, lift it slowly while making lots of audible grunts and such, then drop the weight from the top position to the floor. I repeat this as many times as it takes to get a pump in my hammies.

Swartz
Apr-24-09, 11:17 PM
What was that, a week ago?

If by a week ago you mean like 6+ years ago.

Lees Dragon
Apr-25-09, 01:24 AM
I didnt kno Swartz tricked. :shocked:

Seriously.

Kitosho
Apr-25-09, 07:23 AM
If by a week ago you mean like 6+ years ago.





Sure thing, Matthew.

anfeyd
Apr-25-09, 10:43 AM
Great thread on deadlift technique. I was doing them barely touching the ground, controlled, then going into another rep w/ little to no rest in between - my grip was both pronated and kept assing up but now i'll try it with mixed. I notice here people do romanian more than stiff legged deadlift. Anyone know the benefits of each variation?

The romanian deadlift is 'safer' because the bar is closer (if not above) the mid foot, reducing the amount of torque present on the lower back. Consequently, more weight is able to be used as compared to a still leg which has the potential to overload the muscles to a greater extent.

Swartz
Apr-25-09, 12:12 PM
I didnt kno Swartz tricked. :shocked:

Seriously.
Go watch all my old shit then: www.youtube.com/highfivesquad

Lees Dragon
Apr-25-09, 02:34 PM
sweet.
shall check it out man.