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sesshoumaru
May-08-09, 03:16 PM
As most of you already know, I'm always looking for new ways to "flip" shit. If you were lurking the boards about a few weeks ago, I'm sure you'll remember the "late" thread that I had made, and perhaps some of the issues within it.

This thread is more of the same type of thing. Early this week, J. Marinas came back to San Jose from Brazil...he's only here for a week so we've been doing it up as much as we can. On our first session at Golden Gate in Concord, Prodigyshowed me a couple of things that I had not seen before...and I was eager to learn them because the shit was fresh. In turn, I showed him a few things I had been working on, and we pretty much murdered the session with Luu, JayR, and Team Salesman.

The next day, Prodigy and I were playing with our newly acquired tricks...and we experienced a little "level up". I haven't shared my trick ideas with anyone for such of a long time, I forgot how fun it is to collaborate on ideas with others...

So, if you don't mind...post up a clip of either a "signature move" [something that you think is unique to you]; or an attempt on a trick that you haven't seen anyone do before. We should be able to create a trove of innovative variations for people to try out if they're feeling lucky...summer is around the corner! Let's get it poppin'!!!

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Lotus Doubleleg Hook [LDLH]

First attempt in this was back in 2007, and I wasn't even close! Ironically, I didn't attempt it again until this past week and I pretty much nailed it. Threw it about 3-4 times until I had captured a clean one, and this is what came out:

http://www.divshare.com/download/7321204-afb

I suppose all of my "corkscrew training" helped me improve my lift and hangtime :tongue:

Hadyn
May-08-09, 03:22 PM
Nice, I did this trick in the end of my 2008 sampler. I have quite a few ideas on original tricks I just never get round to trying them, I suppose I should write down my ideas then go film and get back to this thread.

Cory
May-08-09, 03:24 PM
I've really been pushing a lot of variation combinations. Especially with wrap fulls.

My current favorite is w/t fulldleground.

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/87/l_23fadda27671430e93e7dbd94e7f9d14.gif

I have a few others I've been working on as well, but I'm not sharing ^_^

Khaos
May-08-09, 03:26 PM
i have been doin websters with hooks like a moonkick to gainer is thats the only innovative move i have been working on even tho it aint that innotive haha

Torre
May-08-09, 03:31 PM
I have insane ideas in my head which I know are possible but I can't even attempt them without killing myself :) I'm saving them in a little notebook for the future.

sesshoumaru
May-08-09, 03:39 PM
My current favorite is w/t fulldleground.

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/87/l_23fadda27671430e93e7dbd94e7f9d14.gif


You showed me this before...it's pretty dope. Would be cool if you could chamber deeper right after the "doubleleg" so the round kick is more dynamic. Make that round kick "pop" :wink:

i have been doin websters with hooks like a moonkick to gainer is thats the only innovative move i have been working on even tho it aint that innotive haha

Post that shit!

I have insane ideas in my head which I know are possible but I can't even attempt them without killing myself :) I'm saving them in a little notebook for the future.

Ahh, boooooo :tongue: try it anyway, record it, and post it.

Khaos
May-08-09, 03:51 PM
when i get a good lookin one on cam i will post prob day after tomorrow :tongue:

Cory
May-08-09, 04:04 PM
You showed me this before...it's pretty dope. Would be cool if you could chamber deeper right after the "doubleleg" so the round kick is more dynamic. Make that round kick "pop" :wink:


haha, I'll see what I can do, but its pretty hard to get a noticeable doubleleg and a snappy round kick in one rotation :tongue:

Torre
May-08-09, 04:15 PM
Ahh, boooooo :tongue: try it anyway, record it, and post it.

I'm waaaaaaaaaaaay away from trying any of those things:tongue: But if I ever do, I'll post 'em :)

KJER
May-08-09, 04:24 PM
pop fei long cross then twist right after the 2 kicks ....(gotta lay back offcourse )
i was workin on it back in ( the end of ) 2005 but broke my shit a few months later..
never tried an attempt after that ..but would be cool
if some one landed it..

cHiNoDaFiLiPiNo
May-08-09, 07:02 PM
that lotus dbl leg hook was dopeeee, but i was wondering how that qualifies as a double leg. if you hadn't put the name up i would have assumed it was a rocketboy-hook since it was from the J-step set-up.

Kyle McLean
May-08-09, 07:59 PM
because a rocketboi, comes from a tucked postion, and extends to where your body is completly still up right...before the flip, or after if you are going forwards, and contains a grab.

cHiNoDaFiLiPiNo
May-08-09, 08:28 PM
so a lotus double leg is a double leg from the "swing-thru" motion as opposed to the pop set-up?

Kyle McLean
May-08-09, 08:47 PM
yes. double leg is a trick by its self and also a position that u can enter at different points through out any trick

sesshoumaru
May-08-09, 08:56 PM
yes. double leg is a trick by its self and also a position that u can enter at different points through out any trick

+ 100 pts
Lvl ^ :smile:

ninjohn22
May-08-09, 08:58 PM
Btwist Nothing Gyro....



~ Towels

900rmk
May-08-09, 09:02 PM
Way out of my league, but I was thinking of a "Dleg Scissorswipe" the other day. Do a Dleg hook but keep pulling the kick over and scissorswipe out.

sesshoumaru
May-08-09, 09:07 PM
Way out of my league, but I was thinking of a "Dleg Scissorswipe" the other day. Do a Dleg hook but keep pulling the kick over and scissorswipe out.

If I'm imagining this right, that would be pretty sick...would have to start learning to hyper DLH's though :ouch:

Taimatsu
May-08-09, 09:11 PM
If I'm imagining this right, that would be pretty sick...would have to start learning to hyper DLH's though :ouch:

Which, to my knowledge hasn't been done yet. That's practically the step directly underneath double doubleleg.

Ryan Murray
May-08-09, 09:35 PM
This is as signature as it gets for me. I got it from a couple different angles tonight that I might share later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAcy3x0ZOWc

*J-WALL*
May-08-09, 09:49 PM
This is as signature as it gets for me. I got it from a couple different angles tonight that I might share later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAcy3x0ZOWc

My God that is sexy! :shocked:

fullvernian
May-08-09, 10:23 PM
this is about as signature as i get, but i think someone as done this and probably better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j6KWRNkrW4

i wanna maybe hyper this then wrap thru, thats my goal

by that way, the was amazing Sessh

Matt K
May-08-09, 10:29 PM
I love that gainer fei-long thing!

+ I'm in love with your raiz tricks Eric!

++ I'm pretty sure I've seen Andy Ward do a lotus dleg twist (or whatever it'd be called), but never a dleg hook. Looks amazing :good:

Birch
May-08-09, 10:31 PM
Someone should do a double b-kick.

rwm
May-08-09, 10:49 PM
I wanna see a doubleleg with a feilong after it.

sesshoumaru
May-08-09, 10:56 PM
This is as signature as it gets for me. I got it from a couple different angles tonight that I might share later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAcy3x0ZOWc

I saw this about a month back or so...it really resembles a "Hyper Moonkick Twist Kick" I saw K. McLean do about a year ago. I really like it, especially because the split is so dramatic :wicked: kinda looks like the "gainer version" of the Scissorswipe.

Someone should do a double b-kick.

I wanna see a doubleleg with a feilong after it.

As much as I appreciate your involvement within this thread, please try to supply a clip of whatever trick you're mentioning. I really don't want this to turn into a "someone should try a Triple Snapuswipe" thread.

Ryan Murray
May-08-09, 11:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoDlKVFQ9pQ

Other angles of that move are at :40.

Playing with reverse gfull -> bhs was fun too.

sesshoumaru
May-08-09, 11:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoDlKVFQ9pQ

Other angles of that move are at :40.

Playing with reverse gfull -> bhs was fun too.

Hell yeah, some of this is really sick. I personally like how you intergrate the Gumbi in the most unlikely of places :smile:

There was also a little footy of Moe as well, his BS1440 attempt was hella good.

Augenatic
May-09-09, 01:24 AM
It's not a signature move of mine or anything hah, but I haven't really seen it before

euQuwEAKSfU

A_Wilhelm
May-09-09, 01:48 AM
ah augen, your msl btwists are sick man!!

Shukumine
May-09-09, 03:37 AM
You know my current project Sessh [I PM'd it to you not too long ago]. :wink: I still wanna keep it secret, cause this trick is never before seen in Finland and I wanna "blow the crew" with it in here first, before I share it with ya' guys! :smile:

And I've been working on this trick for over 6 months now, of course I wanna keep it for myself a little while... :juji:

Neo Dingsit.
May-09-09, 06:44 AM
i've been experimenting with doubling up on kicks during certain tricks. 360double hook and tornado double being the two most basic examples. it's tough because unless done well chances are it won't look good at all! :punched: (HOOK, HOOK and FRONT, ROUND; rather than a couple of weak crescent kicks haha)

eventually i'd like to carry this over to (pop)720 and (pop)900 (imagine how crazy these would look!). it's a simple concept, i know, but it's things like this that i personally train for in preference to overly complex innovation. it's easily done with backside900 (i've yet to get the bs720 double hook down) and it may even be worth thinking of even more advanced variations of bs900s with two kicks.


sessh, it may be a good time for me to mention that in unleashed i always really liked the clips you (or probably GDong) included of the "side-back-side-back" (quadruple kick near the start) and the other quint (i think? haha) flying side kicks. i'd love to see more of this kind of thing from you!

D.A.
May-09-09, 06:52 AM
Way out of my league, but I was thinking of a "Dleg Scissorswipe" the other day. Do a Dleg hook but keep pulling the kick over and scissorswipe out.

If I'm imagining this right, that would be pretty sick...would have to start learning to hyper DLH's though :ouch:

Which, to my knowledge hasn't been done yet. That's practically the step directly underneath double doubleleg.

Indeed, but I don't think you'd have to learn a hyper dleg hook as a prerequisite, perhaps more like a dleg halftwist/dleg arabian thing. I think you could get away with doing the scissor kick as an axe kick (or a crescent into an axe kick, if you were to do it the hard way). I don't actually think double dleg is very far away, at least, the kick version of the trick. If people have been doing dlegtwist rounds, why not dleg twist dlegs? (which would be a version of a double dleg- not the way Hans tries them, but really cool nonetheless.)


edit: I'll post some ideas I've been having later, I haven't been able to do anything cool recently unless it's on a trampoline or from height :sad: :sad: :sad:
Excellent thread, btw!

Andy R
May-09-09, 09:50 AM
ryan murray you are something else!

marco stryder
May-09-09, 09:55 AM
http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters/andysuperkick.gif

You need a really really good kip up for that one.

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters3/rock-risingtackle.gif

Cmon guys whos gonna be the first? :tongue:

dpitlock
May-09-09, 09:57 AM
lotus is a dumb name. makes me feel like we are trying to be like old karate movies.

ott did this a while ago

orichiu
May-09-09, 10:32 AM
I did some of those last year too. Yours were ofcourse loads cleaner.
Im eager to see that new stuff though :tongue:

Aki
May-09-09, 10:36 AM
Isn't Lotus the actual name for swing through kicks in Wushu?

I could be wrong.

Kyle McLean
May-09-09, 11:10 AM
i was under the impression a lotus was a st hyper 180 hook.

dpitlock
May-09-09, 11:38 AM
i was under the impression a lotus was a st hyper 180 hook.

it is.

this is why we are not calling it that.

dpitlock
May-09-09, 11:41 AM
everything i do is new and original.

TiVo
May-09-09, 12:13 PM
aerial to masterwipe switch only with no hands!

I'm working on it. So far, i've been able to scrape through a two footed landing.

Kyle McLean
May-09-09, 12:28 PM
tive you sneaky sneaky


http://www.divshare.com/download/7268225-e23

TiVo
May-09-09, 12:49 PM
fuck...That just looks scary the way you do it. have you tried pulling it through like a raiz?

ShawnJawn
May-09-09, 12:52 PM
I think this is a gmss. It looks nice regardless
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TiVo
May-09-09, 12:55 PM
Personally, i think to do em from cartwheels as just throwing a gainer, but opposite sided if ya get my drift which is alot easier.

dpitlock
May-09-09, 01:01 PM
ive already corkd this

Kyle McLean
May-09-09, 01:04 PM
fuck...That just looks scary the way you do it. have you tried pulling it through like a raiz?

nope.. all i have done is that.. when ive i do mss st i noticed that master swipe kinda needed to go off axis a bit or else it would hurt my lower back. thats why my gmss is kinda scary looking i think. cause its not over the top.


do u have any of your attempts tivo?

TiVo
May-09-09, 01:07 PM
Imma get some attempts at the gym today on camera hopefully. 'Bout to go soon to the gym.

sesshoumaru
May-09-09, 02:01 PM
lotus is a dumb name. makes me feel like we are trying to be like old karate movies.

ott did this a while ago

Sorry that it makes you feel that way...


it is.

this is why we are not calling it that.

Actually, it appears that the "Lotus Kick" is a jump spinning outside kick variation, that get's a swing-step once the rotation extends to 720°. If you can find the 3 different variations [Lotus, Lotus 540, Lotus 720] that are somewhere on Youtube, you'll see that the first two begin with a jump off of both feet.

Like Aki mentioned earlier, the "lotus" is describing the takeoff more than the actual trick itself. You always could call a Swing Doubleleg Hook if that pleases you, but I'm more of a traditionalist :eh: Oh, and after glancing under your user pic...it's hard for me believe that you're only 19 Dan.

HaoTwo
May-09-09, 02:09 PM
http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters3/rock-risingtackle.gif

Cmon guys whos gonna be the first? :tongue:

Strangely enough while playing CvS2 I wondered if this would be possible.

To go perfectly up and vertical I doubt it, haha. A layout, arms out, double twist would probably be similar to the Rising Tackle.

sesshoumaru
May-09-09, 02:58 PM
It's not a signature move of mine or anything hah, but I haven't really seen it before

euQuwEAKSfU

Hey, this is the first msl Btwist I've seen from a trick that utilizes the "doubleleg" position. How long have you been doing this Augen? You should definitely pursue making it cleaner and whipping out some variations of this.

I could already tell you that I would msl Illusion out if I where you. What no one would expect is a msl Btwist > msl Aerial Switch...that'd be fire :amazed:

Iikkap
May-09-09, 03:55 PM
Augen that's completely awesome, loving it. When I first landed pop3 msl aerial I thought to myself I'll do it from dleg one day. Well my dlegs suck ass so I never got around to do it, glad you did something similar <3

MeatMachine
May-09-09, 04:29 PM
I always thought I was incredibly original doing step/swing/lotus kicks from a j-step; they can be my "signature" for this thread :P
Now they're getting vastly more used and its nice to see this highly valid form of basic tricking kick become popular.

Ryan Murray
May-09-09, 09:12 PM
it's hard for me believe that you're only 19 Dan.


He's actually 34. It's a well kept secret.

Hite
May-09-09, 09:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoDlKVFQ9pQ

Other angles of that move are at :40.

Playing with reverse gfull -> bhs was fun too.

I made the EXACT face the dude at the end made at the full in back out hahah

BboyShinez
May-09-09, 10:05 PM
I wanna see someone do a compasso c/t? c900, like you do a compasso but the kicking leg doesn't touch the ground and you transition into a c9....
I've been trying it but failed so far..

I also wander if someone could do a c9 or p9 double using a parafuso/doubleleg as the first kick..

Augenatic
May-10-09, 06:39 AM
Hey, this is the first msl Btwist I've seen from a trick that utilizes the "doubleleg" position. How long have you been doing this Augen? You should definitely pursue making it cleaner and whipping out some variations of this.

I could already tell you that I would msl Illusion out if I where you. What no one would expect is a msl Btwist > msl Aerial Switch...that'd be fire :amazed:
Those were my first ones man, and I'm definitely going for more variations :tongue:
Augen that's completely awesome, loving it. When I first landed pop3 msl aerial I thought to myself I'll do it from dleg one day. Well my dlegs suck ass so I never got around to do it, glad you did something similar <3

<3! I'll try d-leg m/l aerial for you someday :tongue:

jan
May-10-09, 06:58 AM
Hey, this is the first msl Btwist I've seen from a trick that utilizes the "doubleleg" position. How long have you been doing this Augen? You should definitely pursue making it cleaner and whipping out some variations of this.

I could already tell you that I would msl Illusion out if I where you. What no one would expect is a msl Btwist > msl Aerial Switch...that'd be fire :amazed:

I've done doubleleg missleg btwist and missleg whirlwind (illusion twist round) consistently, as well as btwist missleg aerialswitch in combos. It's not a hard combo, but it's rough for your shins on hard floor.

Maddaveman
May-10-09, 08:33 AM
I also wander if someone could do a c9 or p9 double using a parafuso/doubleleg as the first kick..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuU3egr2OWA&feature=channel_page

^ 1:49

dylanross10
May-10-09, 08:54 AM
I wanna see someone do a compasso c/t? c900, like you do a compasso but the kicking leg doesn't touch the ground and you transition into a c9....
I've been trying it but failed so far..

I also wander if someone could do a c9 or p9 double using a parafuso/doubleleg as the first kick..

Sessh has this in a couple of his vids

funaki4
May-10-09, 09:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuU3egr2OWA&feature=channel_page

^ 1:49

Holy crap, that was beautiful!

qwerty the asdf
May-10-09, 10:00 AM
I've been working on a Btwist variation. Upon take-off instead of just jumping, I throw a round kick. "Round bkick gyro" is what it feels like.

Landed this twice before. Once in UCI's gym and once at White Lotus. Haven't been working on it lately, so I might as well post it up.

I really want to make a very clearly defined round kick upon take-off. And eventually round out of it as well. "Round bkick gyro round" sorta.

The kick is most clearly seen in the last attempt looking in the mirror.

http://www.divshare.com/download/7337522-061

Aki
May-10-09, 10:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuU3egr2OWA&feature=channel_page

2:09 - Holy garbage, hook > c900 double > hook > c720 double > back sweep > c720 double > c/t?

@_@

D.A.
May-10-09, 10:14 AM
I've been working on a Btwist variation. Upon take-off instead of just jumping, I throw a round kick. "Round bkick gyro" is what it feels like.

Landed this twice before. Once in UCI's gym and once at White Lotus. Haven't been working on it lately, so I might as well post it up.

I really want to make a very clearly defined round kick upon take-off. And eventually round out of it as well. "Round bkick gyro round" sorta.

The kick is most clearly seen in the last attempt looking in the mirror.

http://www.divshare.com/download/7337522-061
that's most certainly Sessh's move. It's called a dragonfly twist.

edit: sessh did one in "let the drummer kick"
and here's one by Kyle McLean at 1:21
http://vimeo.com/3481300

qwerty the asdf
May-10-09, 10:17 AM
that's most certainly Sessh's move. It's called a dragonfly twist.

Ahh. Haven't seen it before, though I was sure someone had done it before.

EDIT: haha. yeah, just saw it in Let the Drummer Kick. Guess I was a bit too late. Started working on it around December/January.

ngswipe
May-10-09, 11:26 AM
Been working on 540gyro-touchdown raiz, basically works the same as kyle mcleans parafuso-raiz.

I ve also done crowdawakener 900 and bs1080crowdawkenerhook

zambri
May-10-09, 11:32 AM
crowd awakener 9

Maddaveman
May-10-09, 01:01 PM
2:09 - Holy garbage, hook > c900 double > hook > c720 double > back sweep > c720 double > c/t?

@_@


I think it was supposed to be a cheat1080 triple, I've seen him do one before.

rocketbaz
May-10-09, 01:03 PM
that's most certainly Sessh's move. It's called a dragonfly twist.

Ott did this way before but never put a name on it :)

BboyShinez
May-10-09, 01:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuU3egr2OWA&feature=channel_page

^ 1:49

DAMN...that was insane :dead:

2:09 - Holy garbage, hook > c900 double > hook > c720 double > back sweep > c720 double > c/t?

@_@

I think it was supposed to be a cheat1080 triple, I've seen him do one before.

Also, no such thing as a c720 double, and a c1080 triple would be a hyper c720 Feilong followed by hook before landing...which imagine would be quite difficult :ogre:

Aki
May-10-09, 02:31 PM
I guess his swinging up of the first leg looks like a kick because he never really chambers in the whole time...

So the first one is a normal c720 with wild extension, and the second is more like a c720 gyro hook, with no retraction of the leg? Adding in the gyro to the rotation I'd call it a c1080 double (c1080 degrees of rotation, two kicks not counting the initial lifting leg).

I think that Graham's cheat setup is almost powerful enough to be considered a kick in and of itself. XD

Alexx
May-10-09, 04:33 PM
landed this without hands the other night

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AdamSwaluk
May-10-09, 04:59 PM
I reverse double leg would travel the one way and flip the other. He did a normal double leg from a backwards setup. I'm not saying what he did wasn't impressive, but I'm afraid it wasn't a reverse double leg.

Edit: Imagine a standing gainer, or a standing loser, and apply the same sort of motion to the double leg.

Snoski
May-10-09, 05:21 PM
Also, no such thing as a c720 double, and a c1080 triple would be a hyper c720 Feilong followed by hook before landing...which imagine would be quite difficult :ogre:

I'd say there is, just that only a handful of people can do it properly / make it look good.

Alexx
May-10-09, 05:25 PM
hey adam it was me :) i hadn't seen anyone do it before and thought it'd be worth trying, like sessh said, just posting up stuff.

BboyShinez
May-10-09, 05:42 PM
I'd say there is, just that only a handful of people can do it properly / make it look good.

no there's not, the first leg that comes up is part of the setup and cannot be considered a kick since it has no degree rotation, just a tornado without the kick.

there was a whole thread about this before but I cant be arsed to look it up

EDIT:http://www.trickstutorials.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30756

Skippy
May-10-09, 05:48 PM
Gah, to an extent, if someone did a spin hook which is obv a kick, then did a spin hook but instead jumped, they'd have a cheat 360.

I think really once the kick goes above stomach height, it really is a kick and not just used to get height, most people drive their knees up rather than straight legs anyway.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch4SUJo1R9M


^^ That is definitely a kick

BboyShinez
May-10-09, 05:50 PM
Gah, to an extent, if someone did a spin hook which is obv a kick, then did a spin hook but instead jumped, they'd have a cheat 360.

You didn't do a hook though, it kinda just looked like a tornado where you forgot to kick out the second leg..

Skippy
May-10-09, 05:53 PM
Did you even click that video haha? it's quite clearly a kick.

BboyShinez
May-10-09, 05:58 PM
Did you even click that video haha? it's quite clearly a kick.

yes I did...
Even if that were to be classified as a kick it wouldn't be a "cheat 360", because for that you would need a inside kick to qualify the degree rotation, so a "cheat 360" is a tornado kick....the original debate was on a c720 double though, so try a c7 kicking all the way through the target with a proper chamber and a spotted kick like in that video..

Iikkap
May-10-09, 06:04 PM
c7doubles look like propellers. Not kick-like at all, atleast not any of them I've seen. capoeristas tend to do them like that.

Aki
May-10-09, 06:18 PM
Skippy that was definitely a kick, but I think what he's saying is that even if you do that kick in say, a c720, it will be called a c720, not a c720 double.

It would require an awkward change in terminology for all cheat kicks to do that, unfortunately. 540s would technically be "cheat hyper feilongs."

But I DO think extending the lifting leg adds an awesome touch of flair, names aside.

BboyShinez
May-10-09, 06:23 PM
Skippy that was definitely a kick, but I think what he's saying is that even if you do that kick in say, a c720, it will be called a c720, not a c720 double.

It would require an awkward change in terminology for all cheat kicks to do that, unfortunately. 540s would technically be "cheat hyper feilongs."

But I DO think extending the lifting leg adds an awesome touch of flair, names aside.

Yea I'm all for calling them extended c720's or whatever...
Just not doubles...

But its off topic to the thread...
Let's get back to discussing innovation in tricking :tongue:

dylanross10
May-10-09, 07:07 PM
DAMN...that was insane :dead:





Also, no such thing as a c720 double, and a c1080 triple would be a hyper c720 Feilong followed by hook before landing...which imagine would be quite difficult :ogre:

you need to learn how to trick because that is most definitely a c7dub and
c10triple
I guess you figure there's no c9dub either.

BboyShinez
May-10-09, 07:28 PM
you need to learn how to trick because that is most definitely a c7dub and
c10triple
I guess you figure there's no c9dub either.

*facepalm*

Click on the link to the thread in my other post...
and I never said a c10 triple doesn't exist, it's just not in the trick in the video :ogre:

Snoski
May-11-09, 02:18 AM
no there's not, the first leg that comes up is part of the setup and cannot be considered a kick since it has no degree rotation, just a tornado without the kick.

I really meant it when I said only a handful of people can do it properly; ie. you do a clear "chambered hook, pump, chambered hook" kind of motion, and the jump actually comes almost after the first kick. Can't really say I care about the "cannot be considered since no degree rotation etc etc". Key is to not do c720's like ott who does 75% of the spinning before takeoff with his setup.

Point being the kicks most just be done properly (not "PROPELL'ARLY" amiright) which, as said, only a handful of people do. Also, if it's just called something else then don't mind me lol. I really don't think we're coming to a solution here this time either.

Torre
May-11-09, 11:05 AM
yes I did...
Even if that were to be classified as a kick it wouldn't be a "cheat 360", because for that you would need a inside kick to qualify the degree rotation, so a "cheat 360" is a tornado kick....the original debate was on a c720 double though, so try a c7 kicking all the way through the target with a proper chamber and a spotted kick like in that video..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oO3SYTXKyA&feature=related

5:50

Nuff said.

TKD_Andy
May-11-09, 11:15 AM
hahaha oh man.... cheat 360

how much noni do i have to drink before i can do it?

Ryan Murray
May-11-09, 01:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPOfsK1_jgU

Not really innovating much here trick wise, but I was thinking of ways to make tricking a more inviting visual spectacle for those eyes who don't understand the subtleties and esoteric variations the way we do within the community. I think I need to find a lighter fabric, though.

sesshoumaru
May-11-09, 03:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPOfsK1_jgU

Not really innovating much here trick wise, but I was thinking of ways to make tricking a more inviting visual spectacle for those eyes who don't understand the subtleties and esoteric variations the way we do within the community. I think I need to find a lighter fabric, though.

Atwist swingthrus are tough man, I don't understand how Ott does those forward swingthrus so well. I also notice that you helicopter'd you're arms in one of those Double Fulls...that's gotta feel weird :tongue:

I see you with the Scott Skelton :punched:

jan
May-11-09, 04:15 PM
AHHH, Guilty Gear music!! ZOMGEEEEEEEEEE I love that game.

Ryan Murray
May-11-09, 04:57 PM
AHHH, Guilty Gear music!! ZOMGEEEEEEEEEE I love that game.

You would, guitarist.

jan
May-11-09, 05:18 PM
Busted!

Though I find the whole idea of kicking hard ass in insane speed to hardcore instrumental chuggy metal rather effin awesome!

Bozzy
May-12-09, 03:39 AM
I did something a couple weeks back I'm sure someone has done it before but I hadn't seen it when I was doing them.

Valdez s/t Flash, but the Valdez is from a Jstep. So Its more like a Td Gainer Swtich S/t.

I'll post a clip when I get home.

Ott
May-12-09, 03:44 AM
Argh! I'm not tricking these days!!

A very good thread though hmm. How about doing a C9 > c/t > Lotus > m/s > B-twist something Sessh??

Btw I have to give you credit for you Scoot S/t fei long > m/s illusion (s/t 360??) in the loopkicks "don't need money" sampler! That cought me so much!

mogwai
May-12-09, 02:03 PM
dleggyro round maybe? ^^

sesshoumaru
May-12-09, 02:32 PM
Argh! I'm not tricking these days!!

A very good thread though hmm. How about doing a C9 > c/t > Lotus > m/s > B-twist something Sessh??

Btw I have to give you credit for you Scoot S/t fei long > m/s illusion (s/t 360??) in the loopkicks "don't need money" sampler! That cought me so much!

:: Don't Need Money (http://vimeo.com/3300122) ::

Hahaha, I love that sampler! Was watching it a couple of days ago and just laughing at our antics. You'd just have to be there to understand the gist of everything, but we were clowning :tongue:

Funny thing is that it wasn't even a very good session for us...the only person who was really on fire was Hans, he was killin' it!. Shit, I wish I had the raw file cause Anis was hella funny too...you remember the CORK > st DCORK in the vid? Well this guy is talking to Jeremy and Chris about L.A. related stuff, and his turn comes up in the cypher. He steps out, and gets Chris's attention, then he instantly forgets what he was going to do...so Hans get's ready to go instead. Then as Anis goes back, he remembers...tells Hans: "Oh wait, I rememeber what I was gonna do." Then pulls the that CORK > st DCORK.

We were all like: "Anis, what the hell!" But I'm glad you liked that little part of the combo, I thought it had went unnoticed because no one really mentioned it or the "spin hook to crescent" that started that combo off :tongue: I haven't really done it since then, been working on different stuff as of late. Hopefully I'll get the chance to capture some stuff today.



dleggyro round maybe? ^^

I've seen you do this before!!! Like two years ago at that :tongue:

How are you feeling now by the way? I know that at BG and LKC last year you were pretty much injured. What's new?

Air Australia
May-13-09, 01:05 AM
Atwist swingthrus are tough man, I don't understand how Ott does those forward swingthrus so well. I also notice that you helicopter'd you're arms in one of those Double Fulls...that's gotta feel weird :tongue:

I see you with the Scott Skelton :punched:

HAHA, Sessh :tongue:!!!

Perhaps one day my arm swipe will be a registered trick <3!

WiKiD
May-13-09, 01:40 AM
im trying pop 360 hyper missleg dleg, and trying losers at of EVERYTHING i can!!!

cHiNoDaFiLiPiNo
May-13-09, 02:03 AM
man i tried the lotus dbl leg the other day...feels a little weird but looks really dope :good:

Bozzy
May-13-09, 10:41 AM
I like these, not seen anyone else do them from Jstep.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xUKVprTVaM

Khaos
May-13-09, 10:59 AM
ha ha ha i took that vid =] yeah i cant say i remember seeing anyone do them, that one was plush man :)

Nathan.P.
May-13-09, 11:07 AM
I like these, not seen anyone else do them from Jstep.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xUKVprTVaM

That is pretty cool.
Do it out of a btwist, cork or full.
That would be sick.

Bozzy
May-13-09, 11:21 AM
Thanks man.
Yeah I've seen people do it out of stuff like scoot, jono does them alot.
I'll try them out of other stuff soon.

sesshoumaru
May-13-09, 02:52 PM
HAHA, Sessh :tongue:!!!

Perhaps one day my arm swipe will be a registered trick <3!

Who knows, it's kind of a trademark for you now. When I first saw it, I was like: "oh shit, he's unleashing it!!!"

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As some of you already know [if you've been keeping up with my training bundles], I've been doing a lot of "butterfly variations" lately. Here's two of my more recent ones...

Butterfly Kick Double

This is basically me trying to revamp the already existing Butterknife that Bubba coined a few years back. I'm trying to fully pronounce the second kick in the BK before turning and rechambering for the upcoming hook kick. It feels a little weird while doing it, but it feels awesome once you get the second kick out properly.

http://www.divshare.com/download/7374200-172

The second kick comes out really quickly, so be sure to play it in slo-mo so that you can see the all of the details.

[B]Cannonball Twist [?]

I actually don't know what to call this, and it really isn't my call to name it [since Jerm did it before me]...but for the sake of the thread, we'll go with this :wink:

This is actually the move that I was talking about on the first post of this thread [the one Jerm and I were playing with]. What we're trying to do is go into a regular BK but front flip out of it instead of the usual twist. Since the sway of the BK proceeds the actual tuck-in of the flip, it makes the flip occur on the wrong axis [so you'll never really invert]. After tucking in, I simply half turn out of it so that I land it like regular BT.

http://www.divshare.com/download/7374203-d0d

Ultimately, I hope to "hyper hook" this one day...Oh, and here is the basic version. Just so you can see how what the trick derived from.

http://www.divshare.com/download/7374389-dbf

Ryan Murray
May-13-09, 02:59 PM
That shit (Cannonball) looks BONKERS.

JiayoJames
May-13-09, 02:59 PM
I think it's awesome what you're doing, Maru!

Cannonball twist looks awesome!

Bozzy
May-13-09, 03:03 PM
The cannonball twist looks really nice, I like the way it twist out of the tuck.

Bkick double, second kick is so so so good, and so fast aswell.

It would be awesome if instead of HHing the last Bkick variation you could end it like a webster walk out and go into a tumbling pass or something, just a thought

sesshoumaru
May-13-09, 04:12 PM
The cannonball twist looks really nice, I like the way it twist out of the tuck.

Bkick double, second kick is so so so good, and so fast aswell.

It would be awesome if instead of HHing the last Bkick variation you could end it like a webster walk out and go into a tumbling pass or something, just a thought

Nah, I don't want to "hyper hook" that one, I want to "hyper hook" the "Cannonball Twist". As for using the other one to enter a tumbling pass...it's not exactly my style; though I've done something similar:

Experimental Bkick Variation > st Gumbi > st Hyper Cork

Alexx
May-14-09, 02:23 AM
fuck sake divshares telling me to upgrade my account to watch those clips.

sesshoumaru
May-14-09, 05:25 AM
fuck sake divshares telling me to upgrade my account to watch those clips.

If you have [and watched] my third training bundle, then you most likely have seen these clips.

Alexx
May-14-09, 05:46 AM
yeah man i found that thread earlier...
i dont know why divshares being so strange lately

on a related note i found out about this site today http://www.gazup.com/
upload once, mirrors it to 6 or so other sites !

Taimatsu
May-18-09, 09:44 AM
http://www.trickstutorials.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59867

Trixperiments. :tongue:

phantomoftxtg
May-19-09, 10:05 AM
Butterfly Kick Double [BKD]

http://www.divshare.com/download/7374200-172

The second kick comes out really quickly, so be sure to play it in slo-mo so that you can see the all of the details.



Reminds me of Shawn's at 1:15, just more stall.

http://www.vimeo.com/4672287

You working on a new sampler or anything, it's been a while.

-Unicorns and Roadhouse Rolls

sesshoumaru
May-20-09, 02:02 PM
Reminds me of Shawn's at 1:15, just more stall.

http://www.vimeo.com/4672287

You working on a new sampler or anything, it's been a while.

-Unicorns and Roadhouse Rolls

There is more to it than that...when Shawn rises up after the dip you can see him turn and chamber his left leg [the one that kicks] before he really kicks the second part of the Bkick, so it only results in one hit. Shawn is doing some sort of vicious ass Butterknife, with a ridiculous hook kick :tongue:

In my example of the BKD...I completely enter the "butterfly position", then turn away and rechamber before kicking my right foot again. I'm not really "stalling", I'm just making sure to complete one kick before I start the next.

tsuchinoko
May-20-09, 05:57 PM
Joe Eigo stunt doubles Sportacus from Lazytown.

During the filming in Iceland, Joe was helped by the healing power of Tahitian Noni Juice. He rolled his ankle but recovered quickly the following day.

Must Be The NONI!

frankinstine
May-20-09, 10:57 PM
Joe Eigo stunt doubles Sportacus from Lazytown.

During the filming in Iceland, Joe was helped by the healing power of Tahitian Noni Juice. He rolled his ankle but recovered quickly the following day.

Must Be The NONI!

Shut the fuck up.

THIO
May-21-09, 04:17 AM
has anyone landed a 'moonkick gyro round'
would look sweet as.

sesshoumaru
May-21-09, 01:54 PM
has anyone landed a 'moonkick gyro round'
would look sweet as.

Wrong statement for this kind of thread bro. The answer is "no", by the way :eh:

aznctryboi87
May-21-09, 05:16 PM
I've been messing around with different variations for different things and I came across a though about a bkick with a 360 flatspin...with the legs extended. I've been trying to get that by whipping my head and arms like crazy off to the side...and came kind of close...anyone tried this before?

TiVo
May-21-09, 07:31 PM
I have landed aerial gmswitch. Now i will try and do bs moves out of it as well as do sideswipe gmswitch. Also, i have tried tornado hawkeyes and they are incredibly hard for me.

ShahrozS
May-21-09, 07:40 PM
I've been messing around with different variations for different things and I came across a though about a bkick with a 360 flatspin...with the legs extended. I've been trying to get that by whipping my head and arms like crazy off to the side...and came kind of close...anyone tried this before?

haha I was trying this back when I was attempting to learn double helix wheel kicks....I've only come close to it once and have never been able to do it again, the one time I did get it was awesome though I had the perfect takeoff and I was like flying on my bkick for a second :tongue:

If somebody did a bkick with a full 360 flatspin it would be insanely awesome though...you should keep drilling it :good:

aznctryboi87
May-21-09, 08:06 PM
double helix wheel kick? vid? I don't think i've seen that yet...

ShahrozS
May-21-09, 08:09 PM
double helix wheel kick? vid? I don't think i've seen that yet...

I think this is the last existing video of that trick since sessh recorded over it
http://trickingtube.com/view_trick.php?id=129

aznctryboi87
May-21-09, 08:55 PM
that is hella trippy!!! double helix and then throw a round kick! That would be crazy!

ShahrozS
May-21-09, 09:08 PM
that is hella trippy!!! double helix and then throw a round kick! That would be crazy!

haha it feels so awkward when you try it...
yea you go for a round variation, I can't even get the normal Dblhelix wheel, its class F for a reason :juji:

sesshoumaru
May-21-09, 09:51 PM
I think this is the last existing video of that trick since sessh recorded over it
http://trickingtube.com/view_trick.php?id=129

Oh GOD, why was this posted :agony:

I wasn't even close on those attempts. I really hope people don't think that's what the trick looks like, cause there is more to it...I was just trying to get a feel for it by doing that drill.

ShahrozS
May-21-09, 10:26 PM
Oh GOD, why was this posted :agony:

I wasn't even close on those attempts. I really hope people don't think that's what the trick looks like, cause there is more to it...I was just trying to get a feel for it by doing that drill.

Then you should try it again and post footage...:tongue:
I'd love to see a correctly landed one, since it seems to comeup in a thread pretty frequently..

PerssoN
May-23-09, 01:06 PM
Jumped trampoline and tried some kick full variations don't know if someone have done them: Kick hyper full figure 4(kick then figure 4 all the time when ur twisting and land on the kicking leg) and kick shuriken full.