Tricking Progression

[zambri]

Overload
This principle states that in order to achieve adaptation (improvement) a greater than normal load needs to be applied. The body will adapt increased stimulus over time wether this increase comes in the form of added weight such as in strength training
or added difficulty in any other form depends on the specific activity we want to improve on as well as our goals. When the body has adapted once again we need to apply further overload in order to improve further which leads us to the third principle of progression.

Would this also apply to tricking, such as having longer sessions hence putting more stress [ stimulus ] upon body and allowing you to train longer or harder next session.

The only thing that I would put up against this is the fact the the longer you trick the messier your moves become [ generally ]

Input anyone?

[HaoTwo]

Would this also apply to tricking, such as having longer sessions hence putting more stress [ stimulus ] upon body and allowing you to train longer or harder next session.

The only thing that I would put up against this is the fact the the longer you trick the messier your moves become [ generally ]

Input anyone?

For that to apply to Tricking, adding weight would make sense (relative to what you quoted) I believe. Although I'm not sure of the effects or if anybody's even bothered attempting to trick with a weighted vest or ankle weights etc.

I myself would advise against long ass training sessions.

[EmpRitz]

Sounds like an awesome way to get yourself hurt. Long sessions=tired tricking and tired tricking=injuries.

[Skippy]

In tricking I believe it's better to trick for intense, short sessions.

[Maddaveman]

invest in a weight vest. I'm thinking about doing that for summer training.

[zambri]

no weights please, i enjoy having my knees and ankles in one piece

[Megabuster]

You're already putting plenty of strain on your legs from a normal session most likely. You'll probably wear your legs out much more quickly/blow out your knee and stuff. Like everyone's said before me, it's not the best method to apply for tricking, at least not in its normal sense.

[BboyShinez]

This applys in the sense you increase the difficulty of the tricks you try every session....that way you're body has to adapt in order to not fall on your ass everytime

[jo>.<el]

mybe not longer sessions, but more intense combos, and attempts at more difficult tricks then you would useally train

[Hite]

Quote:
Overload
This principle states that in order to achieve adaptation (improvement) a greater than normal load needs to be applied. The body will adapt increased stimulus over time wether this increase comes in the form of added weight such as in strength training
or added difficulty in any other form depends on the specific activity we want to improve on as well as our goals. When the body has adapted once again we need to apply further overload in order to improve further which leads us to the third principle of progression.

This isn't weightlifting our goal isn't to lift as much as possible it's to throw clean tricks. This isn't an iron man contest either (excluding gatherings) so longer sessions isn't going to translate into better tricks.

Do more difficult tricks as you progress.

[Aki]

Adding weights to anything increases the power of that motion. What weights would help are things like the power of swing throughs, jumps, and kicking motions, but wearing the weights WHILE doing those things will hurt more than help. What WILL help is training FOR the specific motions.

For example, if you want a strong swing through, do weighted leg lifts, not weighted gainer flashes. If you want stronger jumps, do weighted squats, not weighted jumps. Basically you don't want more weight crashing down on your knees, ankles, and spine.

I believe Juji once said, "Don't practice something, practice FOR something."

Overall though, practicing the said movements by themselves is probably the best way to progress for a tricker.

[zambri]

im taking more about tricking longer with less fatigue

[Skilzat85X]

Would this also apply to tricking, such as having longer sessions hence putting more stress [ stimulus ] upon body and allowing you to train longer or harder next session.

The only thing that I would put up against this is the fact the the longer you trick the messier your moves become [ generally ]

Input anyone?

I don't believe that's the correct application of the quotation.

If you lift 100 lbs 5 times, you're under more 'stress' than lifting 5 lbs 100 times. Duration of tricking doesn't put greater stress on an individuals muscles or nervous system really, it just increases fatigue, which is detrimental moreso than helpful.

Even if you space it out so you're tricking at a rate which causes you to fatigue very slowly over a long period of time, the effects are negligible, there's no increase in stimuli.

A better application would be applying more intensity and focus to single tricks in the session.

[zambri]

A better application would be applying more intensity and focus to single tricks in the session.

in turn making them easier next time they are attempted right?

[Iikkap]

This isn't weightlifting our goal isn't to lift as much as possible it's to throw clean tricks. This isn't an iron man contest either (excluding gatherings) so longer sessions isn't going to translate into better tricks.

Do more difficult tricks as you progress.

Tricking longer=increased stamina=become used to tricking longer=can train more per session.

[Lees Dragon]

I would just make sure im training my body in some way every day.
And do tricking as many times I feel per week.
That would be enough stimulus to skyrocket you to all new levels once you try to progress.

(In my opinion :tongue:)

[TKDtrickster]

i would probably apply this in terms of intensity of tricking rather than length. for me, at least, it feels like when you land a new trick you use all your might, but then eventually you start landing that trick no problem. it seems like your body starts automatically exerting more power than you used it. i wonder if this is true, or if technique simply improves over time...

[FatTricks]

it feels like when you land a new trick you use all your might, but then eventually you start landing that trick no problem. it seems like your body starts automatically exerting more power than you used it. i wonder if this is true, or if technique simply improves over time...

This.

Try gaining weight, and you'll see the difference.
When I cut down to 200 lbs...man the difference was INCREDIBLE! I was so floaty and had more speed and height in my tricks. Now that I'm 265lbs....a simple flashkick takes soooooo much more effort to perform. Each move needs that much more Ummph in order to land it.