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TiVo
May-11-09, 11:09 PM
What exactly constitutes a Hawkeye?

DYoo
May-11-09, 11:13 PM
round hook in the air.

commonly (not really) seen from tornado round hook.

we gotta see more of these. i love this trick.

Torre
May-12-09, 03:59 AM
Tornado round hook as in doing a hook with the roundkicking leg, like a 1337 kick?

petebull
May-12-09, 04:02 AM
its hook kick with a recoil as far as i know

superfluous jargon whatever it is

jan
May-12-09, 04:02 AM
There's a term for this too now? I've been doing tornado round-hooks and btwist round hooks for a long time.

What's up with old miniscule variations popping up again with names like "Ultraton megablaster" etc? :P

Hite
May-12-09, 01:44 PM
Is this kind of what Rudy Reynon does all of the time in his forms?

1:02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIXvZgHPGEk

FatTricks
May-12-09, 01:54 PM
I thought a hawkeye was a hook kick that you grabbed after the hook ( while in roundhouse chamber) and released it into a more powerful roundhouse. Like a bow and arrow.

Throw a hook....then

1. Put your leg into a tight roundhouse chamber.
2. Grab foot.
3. Forcefully try to extend leg.
4. Prevent extension.
5. Release.

DYoo
May-12-09, 02:57 PM
Tornado round hook as in doing a hook with the roundkicking leg, like a 1337 kick?

i was talking to tivo about this actually, bubba does a parafuso chambered round for his l337 kick (at least that's what tivo told me and it looks plausible)


There's a term for this too now? I've been doing tornado round-hooks and btwist round hooks for a long time.

What's up with old miniscule variations popping up again with names like "Ultraton megablaster" etc? :P

this term has been around for a while, i remember hearing this term about 3 or 4 years ago.

Lees Dragon
May-12-09, 04:09 PM
some1 just post a video of the move and end the confusion

Jon P
May-12-09, 10:21 PM
There's a term for this too now? I've been doing tornado round-hooks and btwist round hooks for a long time.

What's up with old miniscule variations popping up again with names like "Ultraton megablaster" etc? :P

Seriously.
If I left for a month I would have no idea what the hell anyone was talking about...
Yet they are talking about the same tricks people have been doing since forever.

DYoo
May-13-09, 12:06 AM
Seriously.
If I left for a month I would have no idea what the hell anyone was talking about...
Yet they are talking about the same tricks people have been doing since forever.

again, i said previously that i heard this term about 3 years ago.

but tivo just wants to know what a hawkeye is...if anyone has heard of that term.

Shear
May-13-09, 02:12 AM
Anyone remember the La Legende Kick?

.: Its been a while :. = )

Dragonic MiKe
May-13-09, 09:49 AM
Yeah, this isn't really a new term.

It would be interesting to know who coined it though.

sesshoumaru
May-13-09, 02:25 PM
I've always understood a "hawkeye" as being a TKD term that denotes a "hook kick > round kick" pattern [without putting the kicking leg down]. In it's most complex use, which is within a "narabong", the hips have to be isolated in one spot during the transition between the hook and the round, so that the flow of the skill is preserved. This take massive control, and I've only seen Manny Brown, Chris deVera, and Bubba do it like this.

Here are some examples:

Manny Brown at 01:23 - hawkeye > msl hook > vertical side kick
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Chris deVera at 01:34 - P360 with a hawkeye
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The "hawkeye" is not to be confused with a "z-kick", which is an american term for the muay thai round kick that comes overhead, and is sometimes displayed with a grab.

I can't really find a good example of a "z-kick" on the internet, but it is in my inventory of kicks I'd actually use in a fight because of it's ability to penetrate defenses. It's kind of like an axe kick, if the person using it is good, by the time you see it - it's already too late :tongue:

Here's the closet thing I could find:

Steve Terada at 00:33 - round kick > z-kick > st G
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