Asses in tricking

[shimayasha]

Noob Question but What are They Can Someone like send me them ?:ouch:

[EmpRitz]

http://www.club540.com/tricktionary

[shimayasha]

thanks alot dude

[gabrielb]

lol dont read too much into them. since youll find alot of times harder tricks come easier than supposedly easier ones of even pre-requisites.

[jo>.<el]

i just read throu them, and that was stupid as hell

[Iikkap]

i just read throu them, and that was stupid as hell

agreed

[Khaos]

i think that sesh's bible was actually i really good aid when i first started out, it helped alot with terminology and it allowed me to look at logical progression routes

[Anima]

Edit: Nevermind xD

[shimayasha]

i think that sesh's bible was actually i really good aid when i first started out, it helped alot with terminology and it allowed me to look at logical progression routes

wait bible wtf

[sesshoumaru]

wait bible wtf

Yes, Tong-Len referred converted a MS Word document that I had originally called "T10X" [as in Tricking one-o-whatever], into a PDF...and he named it "The Tricking Bible". Somehow, that specific detail get's left out, and the article gets referred to as "Sessh's Bible", which I never called it that...

Ironically, since I am a Christian...it gave atheist and those with an elitism-phobia something to bash on. As far as "T10X" goes, the information is quite outdated now, though relevant on many levels. I'm currently drafting a more comprehensive version of the article, but I have no intention of releasing it how I did the previous.

[jo>.<el]

Ironically, I am a Christian

HAHA xD

[EmpRitz]

Everyone is going to find certain things more difficult then others, but I feel the classes create a pretty good objective scale of tricks.

[gabrielb]

it was a really good idea especially since tricking has a horrible randomness sense in terms of how tricking is. just somehow the execution failed a bit...its a good line for more newer tricksters to use a reference but not as a holy grail.

[AlienWebguy]

I'm gonna be removing the class system and restructuring the tricktionary in a tier-based system based on prerequisite progression. A trick with no prerequisite (540) would be a Tier 1 trick. Cheat720 (prereq=540) would be a Tier 2 trick. Jackknife (prereq 540->C7) would be Tier 3, and so on. This will remove the whole "this trick in class C is harder than this trick in Class D..wtf" debate since it eliminates difficulty as a factor for categorization and basically just structures the tricks in a way that shows how they are evolved and where they come from. I can't imagine it'll differ drastically from what's up there now, but hopefully it'll be more cut and dry and not so open to interpretation.

--S--

[Bozzy]

I'm gonna be removing the class system and restructuring the tricktionary in a tier-based system based on prerequisite progression. A trick with no prerequisite (540) would be a Tier 1 trick. Cheat720 (prereq=540) would be a Tier 2 trick. Jackknife (prereq 540->C7) would be Tier 3, and so on. This will remove the whole "this trick in class C is harder than this trick in Class D..wtf" debate since it eliminates difficulty as a factor for categorization and basically just structures the tricks in a way that shows how they are evolved and where they come from. I can't imagine it'll differ drastically from what's up there now, but hopefully it'll be more cut and dry and not so open to interpretation.

--S--

So tornados aren't a pre-req for 540s now?

But yes good idea tiers seem clever, though there was hundereds of tiers and levels of difficulties of some trick variations like corks and btwists

[David M.]

So tornados aren't a pre-req for 540s now?

Nado aint really a trick (prolly why he didnt think of adding it) but yeh its still a pre-req for 540.

and tornado is more of a pre req than a 540 is for c7 hahahaha.

i think a tricker needs to set up the club540 classification system.

[Bozzy]

Nado aint really a trick (prolly why he didnt think of adding it) but yeh its still a pre-req for 540.

and tornado is more of a pre req than a 540 is for c7 hahahaha.

i think a tricker needs to set up the club540 classification system.

A tricker that can actually do pretty much everything so they know how hard stuff is, not just make them go up in order of spins or kicks. More how actual hard the trick is and what way would benifit the learner in the way he goes through them.

If i do remember a 540 gyro was a class B trick haha

And there hella hard

[Anima]

I'm a postmodernist, so I don't believe in class systems.

[Adam Ross]

Asses (http://www.trickstutorials.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59171)?

[AlienWebguy]

A tricker that can actually do pretty much everything so they know how hard stuff is, not just make them go up in order of spins or kicks. More how actual hard the trick is and what way would benifit the learner in the way he goes through them.

If i do remember a 540 gyro was a class B trick haha

And there hella hard

No you're completely wrong. Sessh made the system that's currently on Club540 and he can do more tricks on that tricktionary than 99% of you guys. "How hard a trick is" is subject to interpretation and debate, and therefore can NOT be part of the system. Imagine if your college application test put more points into math than they did into History. Students who are naturally good at math would do better on those questions and find the history questions more difficult - the history buffs would find their portion easier and the math portion harder. It's a faulty system in that it pre-assumes who the student "tricker" already is before they even take the test.

A solid tricktionary will keep it factual and unbiased. I don't give 2 shits if you learned a 1080 before you learned a 720 or if you learned a triple flash kick before a 540. Not every tricker is going to learn all the tricks in the same order, and therefore it needs to be charted as such. 720 is a prerequisite for a 900, even though one's an outside kick and one's an inside kick. That's just the way it is.

A tier-based system will truly help struggling trickers because it will hint on what tricks they should be drilling to help build up their tricking base. Some of you guys are building skyscrapers on paper machete foundations, and you wonder why you're tearing ACL's and shit.

--S--

[Bozzy]

No you're completely wrong. Sessh made the system that's currently on Club540 and he can do more tricks on that tricktionary than 99% of you guys. "How hard a trick is" is subject to interpretation and debate, and therefore can NOT be part of the system. Imagine if your college application test put more points into math than they did into History. Students who are naturally good at math would do better on those questions and find the history questions more difficult - the history buffs would find their portion easier and the math portion harder. It's a faulty system in that it pre-assumes who the student "tricker" already is before they even take the test.

A solid tricktionary will keep it factual and unbiased. I don't give 2 shits if you learned a 1080 before you learned a 720 or if you learned a triple flash kick before a 540. Not every tricker is going to learn all the tricks in the same order, and therefore it needs to be charted as such. 720 is a prerequisite for a 900, even though one's an outside kick and one's an inside kick. That's just the way it is.

A tier-based system will truly help struggling trickers because it will hint on what tricks they should be drilling to help build up their tricking base. Some of you guys are building skyscrapers on paper machete foundations, and you wonder why you're tearing ACL's and shit.

--S--

Cry more?

[Lees Dragon]

Fuck any1 who says anything against Sesh's trick classification and the 540 tricktionary.
I think it was a good effort, and gave me (still gives me loads of insight).
I dont care if they think that any specific trick should be landed as a prerequisite, to move on to another.
Thats their opinion to help others out and i'm sure it works.
Personally I dont follow that advice religiously, but I sure do refer to these works when im in doubt about something.
Overall, very useful stuff! :good:

[AlienWebguy]

Cry more?

http://www.seancannon.com/_test/dawson-crying.jpg

[Bozzy]

Lawl.

Ok we're good.