View Full Version : Lets talk about gay sex with Yuri
anfeyd
May-22-09, 11:54 AM
My sex drive has been the shits lately, and the only thing I can really bank on it being is my lack of overall calorie intake. Any idea guise, personal experience, supplement recommendations, nutrient deficiencies, anus lube?
a woman should solve all your problems.
anfeyd
May-22-09, 12:16 PM
I have a womannnnnnnnn, that's the whole thing.
andyzzle
May-22-09, 12:25 PM
DO THE MOTORBOAT!!!!!
supplement with moar zinc
Swartz
May-22-09, 01:00 PM
So is your libido just shit or is it hers too, Anthony?
anfeyd
May-22-09, 01:17 PM
Just mine.
I eat plenty of fat considering I eat next to no carbohydrates.
I actually was going to buy some ZMA Yuri.
Confucius
May-22-09, 01:41 PM
http://www.drugs.ie/fs/img/drugs/alcohol.jpg
Alcohol makes me lose all sexual interest. Also, perhaps you've just gotten tired of your bint, or she has gotten more fat?
Cicero
May-22-09, 01:50 PM
Yeah, are you just not attracted to her, or is it every girl?
Maybe she just really turns you off.
Maybe your cock is broken.
Jimnast
May-22-09, 02:26 PM
Boo fuckin hoo, piss off.
andyzzle
May-22-09, 03:19 PM
try noni juice
Ask if she's down for a threesome. Ask her if she wants to try having sex in different places than normal. Get out there and do something fun. Get it on in a changing room. In a public jacuzzi. In someone's backyard. In the middle of the day outside. Try new positions. Take NOXPLODE first. Try viagra ahaha that could be fun!
Counterfeit Soda
May-22-09, 04:07 PM
Just mine.
I eat plenty of fat considering I eat next to no carbohydrates.
I actually was going to buy some ZMA Yuri.
Yes, ZMA tends to make my penis hard.
Lees Dragon
May-22-09, 05:50 PM
I have no comment.
breykdown
May-22-09, 06:14 PM
I have no comment.
but you just made one
i like the noXplode idea
Jackamaideshwang
May-22-09, 10:27 PM
Maybe if you just get all your shit in order, diet, weights, work, whatever interests/projects you have going on, get them all settled or take a week or 2 break from it all. I tend to get so enveloped in my own crap that sex doesn't even come into it, its like it's just removed from my list cause it's not productive per se. It'l probably help you unwind too, having a few days without rigidly planned and carried out activities.
You could take a weekend or a night to somewhere relaxing as a couple, and maybe celebrate your relationship- escaping from it all, releases the tension nicely.
Or you could try to remember why you fell in love with her, and why you currently love her/her good qualities, tends to bring on affectionate behaviour, rather focussing on the negatives/how she could be better. Worrying about it won't help either, or expecting things to happen, just make it natural.
DeeJay
May-22-09, 11:28 PM
I had sexual disinterest with my gf for a while but now I have a regular libido.
tpvlyrm
May-23-09, 03:51 AM
IME...
This:
my lack of overall calorie intake.
and especially this:
I eat next to no carbohydrates.
reliably conspire to ensure I have absolutely no sex drive at all. Doing the opposite, i.e. eating enough so that I am, for example, gaining weight, and eating lots of carbs as part of that, makes me horny and all that.
Consider when you started feeling this way, and what changed in your diet and lifestyle around that time.
The other big influence is sleep. When my sleep is of poor quality, I have virtually no sex drive. And it's not about the length of time I sleep, either - if I get 8 hours from 10.30pm then I wake up with a glass-cutting erection and I feel horny and rape-powerful all day. If I got to bed at 1am and sleep even for 10 hours or something, I feel like shit.
Basically sex drive, at least in me, now, is one of the first things to go if my body is stressed from a lacking diet, imperfect sleep, too much exercise, etc.
It's a very noticeable marker of how "well" things are going, I reckon. I'm in my 20's now so I'm essentially impotent, but back when I was 16/17 I'd get so damn horny after (or during!) a workout. That was a good sign. Then I started training like a idiot and doing way too much, too often, and that stopped happening.
Good hormonal response vs. a bad one, I guess.
Neither ZMA nor "moar fat" ever did anything useful for me.
Oh, one last note - again, for me there's a final factor and that is that I must "use it or lose it". If the other required conditions are fairly well in place, then if I stop wanking (oh sorry I meant HAVING SEX WITH OTHER PEOPLE LIKE ALL YOU GUYZ DO) then after a few days I lose most interest in doing so. If I then resume the sinful habit, and come to indulge in it every day without fail, then I stay a lot hornier over all.
Jackamaideshwang
May-23-09, 04:33 AM
. If the other required conditions are fairly well in place, then if I stop wanking then after a few days I lose most interest in doing so. If I then resume the sinful habit, and come to indulge in it every day without fail, then I stay a lot hornier over all.
You can use this quite well to your advantage, as sex is addictive afterall. Maybe you just need to kickstart the system.
Eh I had no sex drive for a couple months, it'll pass.
Aiden Bloodaxe
May-23-09, 09:40 AM
Zinc / ZMA, fats & good sleep all help in my experience. For some reason I've found that overreaching / slightly overtraining makes me masturbate more even though my T-levels should be lower temporarily after a hard training session:eh: You could try browsing porn without masturbating / immediately digging out your woman, that makes my libido increase 200% & remain there throughout the day.
Churoflip
May-23-09, 10:26 AM
Imagine her as a 11 yo girl, youll get turned on instantly
Since I got shit sleep last night I really don't have a sex drive today.
I mean I don't even want to have sex with any of this asian girls!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eodFU4b237s
AndyLeTerrible
May-23-09, 03:47 PM
I would have sex with all of this frail monkeys
andyzzle
May-23-09, 04:20 PM
Imagine her as a 11 yo girl, youll get turned on instantly
it's posts like this that make us love you even more! :tongue:
http://static.zooomr.com/images/5321903_9c9e13357a.jpg
is your libido back yet?
hamelkarl
May-23-09, 04:52 PM
Why does all fucking j-pop have way too much fucking members...
Do you feel angry more often? Are you depressed?
http://static.zooomr.com/images/5321903_9c9e13357a.jpg
is your libido back yet?
Mine was never gone but it's up 300% now :punched:
Those are the most perfect tits I have ever seen!
tpvlyrm
May-24-09, 01:03 PM
they look fucking ridiculous, tbh. She's ruined what appears to otherwise be a fine body.
DeeJay
May-24-09, 01:56 PM
http://static.zooomr.com/images/5321903_9c9e13357a.jpg
is your libido back yet?
What is her name?
Counterfeit Soda
May-24-09, 02:01 PM
Those tits look unnatural, and too big for her.
I dunno, I just googled "awesome tits" ahahah
I'm not a fan of giant boobies, mainly because giant boobies tend to come with giant silverdollar pancake nipples. Those are probably photoshopped, since they don't have the stereotypical balloon shape of most implants.
gah bigboobs just get in the way.
i like bouncy booby !!
the way the boobs hang dont look like implants, my gf has boobs like them and she dont have implants.
EDIT: having a betta look they could be implants just not done very well
Churoflip
May-25-09, 10:54 AM
gosh why do you guys have such high standards, it gets annoying over time
Aiden Bloodaxe
May-25-09, 01:32 PM
Yes, haha.
gosh why do you guys have such high standards, it gets annoying over time
Exactly, they don't seem to understand that women in real life don't look like women in magazines haha.
tpvlyrm
May-25-09, 02:47 PM
women in real life
as if
Why does all fucking j-pop have way too much fucking members...
Do you feel angry more often? Are you depressed?
it's Korean.
Lees Dragon
May-25-09, 04:59 PM
That chick was insanely hot. :shocked:
compleks
May-25-09, 05:45 PM
My sex drive is pretty dismal most of the time...
i am too young to ejaculate but when i can i am so gonna get laid
yeah i'm gonna go ahead and change my password (and yes i so can ejaculate.)
Vegetable
May-25-09, 06:42 PM
EDIT: having a betta look they could be implants just not done very well
Implants are not supposed to look like implants.
shiroun
May-25-09, 06:57 PM
Implants are not supposed to look like implants.
So they're real yet they look fake? Fuck that, i'd prefer the fake ones if they look real.
Ashtar
May-26-09, 08:14 AM
This guy has a serious question, don't just throw some bikini model at him and expect to fix it. There are a lot of issues like nutrition, sleep, stress, etc.
I have this issue too. I mostly didn't care but actually there are times when you want to be 100% gorged with blood because you want a girl to feel complimented and if you're only halfway there then you're like "no, she might think I don't think she's beautiful, wake up you fool!"
I think sleep and nutrition and the ability to relax and feel confident and happy are the biggest issues. I suppose something like boxers v. briefs could influence it as well. So if you're one of those guys like me who likes briefs because of the support, tendency towards better range of motion in the hips (much like sweats over jeans), and liking the idea of lower sperm motility, then if you decide you want to be more full down there, we must avoid these pleasures and let it swing about a bit for increased blood flow, even if it is more distracting it is a burden to be borne.
Vegetable
May-26-09, 05:49 PM
I have this issue too. I mostly didn't care but actually there are times when you want to be 100% gorged with blood because you want a girl to feel complimented and if you're only halfway there then you're like "no, she might think I don't think she's beautiful, wake up you fool!"
Don't worry, Ashtar. The girls in your dating sims can't judge you.
Also:
I suppose something like boxers v. briefs could influence it as well. So if you're one of those guys like me who likes briefs because of the support, tendency towards better range of motion in the hips (much like sweats over jeans), and liking the idea of lower sperm motility, then if you decide you want to be more full down there, we must avoid these pleasures and let it swing about a bit for increased blood flow, even if it is more distracting it is a burden to be borne.
This doesn't work; trust me.
anfeyd
May-26-09, 07:33 PM
I gorged myself on a lot of food these past few days and my sex drive increased (increase in carbohydrates mainly). I will see what happens these next few days when my carbohydrate level drops again.
haha how has this not been changed to "let's talk about gay sex"
Swartz
May-26-09, 10:22 PM
I gorged myself on a lot of food these past few days and my sex drive increased (increase in carbohydrates mainly). I will see what happens these next few days when my carbohydrate level drops again.
Is your girlfriend sick of you not being all up on her Anthony?
That chick was insanely hot. :shocked:
This.
frankinstine
May-27-09, 03:19 AM
haha how has this not been changed to "let's talk about gay sex"
ahaha
Jackamaideshwang
May-27-09, 04:01 AM
The food thing might work, even increasing insulin levels. They done studies where caloric restriction produces longer lifespan in animals, and they think the general mechanism being the body shifts it's energy use to more survival oriented means, so to allow one to reproduce in the future when conditions are right. The converse may be true, where eating lots, storing muscle protein, fat etc will shift energy use or allow more for reproductive purposes. Live big, fat, sex it up and die fast or live smaller, leaner, less sexing and live longer pretty much. If it's not exactly psychological, more carbs and calories in general might be beneficial, or you might even be overtrained.
Skippy
May-27-09, 07:56 AM
If no-ones said it already, try tribulus, although it'll do nothing for your test levels, you'll be horny as hell all the gawd damn time. Ginkgo Biloba is good too.
horny goat weed
powdered crocodile penis
cobra venom
tpvlyrm
May-27-09, 10:49 AM
If no-ones said it already, try tribulus, although it'll do nothing for your test levels, you'll be horny as hell all the gawd damn time. Ginkgo Biloba is good too.
Unfortunately I didn't even feel that. I tried some crappy eBay brand and doubled the recommended dose every other day until the bottle ran out. I didn't notice anything.
Oh, and I tried Maca powder as well. That tasted quite cool, and now the taste/smell reminds me powerfully of that time in my life, but again I found no effect from it.
---
To repeat my advice from earlier - eat more, beat more.
Vegetable
May-27-09, 12:08 PM
The food thing might work, even increasing insulin levels. They done studies where caloric restriction produces longer lifespan in animals, and they think the general mechanism being the body shifts it's energy use to more survival oriented means, so to allow one to reproduce in the future when conditions are right. The converse may be true, where eating lots, storing muscle protein, fat etc will shift energy use or allow more for reproductive purposes. Live big, fat, sex it up and die fast or live smaller, leaner, less sexing and live longer pretty much. If it's not exactly psychological, more carbs and calories in general might be beneficial, or you might even be overtrained.
In fact, the inverse is true for me. Before I went on my current bulking diet I ate almost nothing, was terribly underweight, and had no problems maintaining an erection for five hours+. Now I'm having trouble keeping it up over the course of a single session.
Swartz
May-27-09, 01:44 PM
RAPE TIME YURI!
karatekid
May-27-09, 02:35 PM
RAPE TIME YURI!
Good luck with that haha.
Swartz
May-27-09, 03:26 PM
We all know Yuri is just a big, sweet, cuddly teddy bear.
Besides if anyone can rape it's Syvoran. Even Yuri cannot evade his extra long anus fingers.
Badams
May-27-09, 03:28 PM
Yuri, give us a quick overview of gay sex before we begin our discussion!
Ashtar
May-27-09, 08:23 PM
Don't worry, Ashtar. The girls in your dating sims can't judge you.
Also: This doesn't work; trust me.Actually, dating sim girls CAN judge you. If you make the wrong responses you have to replay all over again. As for it not working, I might try, but I hope it doesn't because I love briefs.
Vegetable
May-28-09, 07:16 PM
Actually, dating sim girls CAN judge you.
No, Ashtar. They're not real.
BboyAgua
May-28-09, 10:27 PM
Ask if she's down for a threesome. Ask her if she wants to try having sex in different places than normal. Get out there and do something fun. Get it on in a changing room. In a public jacuzzi. In someone's backyard. In the middle of the day outside. Try new positions. Take NOXPLODE first. Try viagra ahaha that could be fun!
I checked those off my list in 10th grade. My penis requires higher and higher levels of arousal now. Sometimes I just have my girl beat my dick with a decapitated elderly man till I ejaculate. LOOK WHAT THOU HAST WROUGHT >_<
When are you at Woodward this summer? I'm leaving tonight and won't be back til ze 19th of Augoost
BboyAgua
May-28-09, 11:24 PM
When are you at Woodward this summer? I'm leaving tonight and won't be back til ze 19th of Augoost
ASDFGHJUJKL:!? CAN U MAYHAP COME BACK FOR A VISIT??? I WILL CONFIRM ZE BEST TIME ><
ChukiDori
May-29-09, 05:44 AM
The food thing might work, even increasing insulin levels. They done studies where caloric restriction produces longer lifespan in animals, and they think the general mechanism being the body shifts it's energy use to more survival oriented means, so to allow one to reproduce in the future when conditions are right. The converse may be true, where eating lots, storing muscle protein, fat etc will shift energy use or allow more for reproductive purposes. Live big, fat, sex it up and die fast or live smaller, leaner, less sexing and live longer pretty much. If it's not exactly psychological, more carbs and calories in general might be beneficial, or you might even be overtrained.
I think that whole life span issue, restricted calories etc is probably because as a result the animal is less active...burning less ATP and thus producing less DNA damaging Free Radicals as a by product of energy use.
Scientists are pretty sure they have found the reason we age. While we dont understand all the genes in our DNA...they are pretty damn sure there is no "gene" for aging or death..There is no reason our cells should not be able to divide and create new cells perfectly for ever...the problem is Free Radical production in the body and radiation,carcinogens etc which accumulate genetic damage over time.
Skippy
May-29-09, 07:41 AM
[QUOTE=tpvlyrm;1270061]Unfortunately I didn't even feel that. I tried some crappy eBay brand and doubled the recommended dose every other day until the bottle ran out. I didn't notice anything.
QUOTE]
When I've tried either one (I didn't use them for sexual potency haha) I had the best erections ever. Fuck you RockTen.
tpvlyrm
May-29-09, 09:01 AM
I think that whole life span issue, restricted calories etc is probably because as a result the animal is less active...burning less ATP and thus producing less DNA damaging Free Radicals as a by product of energy use.
Scientists are pretty sure they have found the reason we age. While we dont understand all the genes in our DNA...they are pretty damn sure there is no "gene" for aging or death..There is no reason our cells should not be able to divide and create new cells perfectly for ever...the problem is Free Radical production in the body and radiation,carcinogens etc which accumulate genetic damage over time.
Indeed, even with accumulating DNA damage, frankly. There exist plenty of organisms whose cells divide indefinately, as well as immortalised cell lines taken from human cancers and such.
I think that it's perfectly within the capabilities of our Earth-style biology to sustain the life of "the same" organism indefinately (excepting gross traumas and such), or at least for life spans *far* greater than humans enjoy.
Lees Dragon
May-29-09, 05:12 PM
[QUOTE=tpvlyrm;1270061]Unfortunately I didn't even feel that. I tried some crappy eBay brand and doubled the recommended dose every other day until the bottle ran out. I didn't notice anything.
QUOTE]
When I've tried either one (I didn't use them for sexual potency haha) I had the best erections ever. Fuck you RockTen.
That was the best lol I had today!! :smile::good:
there is a fucked up moth right next to my ear right now.
Jackamaideshwang
May-31-09, 03:59 PM
Originally Posted by ChukiDori
I think that whole life span issue, restricted calories etc is probably because as a result the animal is less active...burning less ATP and thus producing less DNA damaging Free Radicals as a by product of energy use.
Sorry to bring up an old point, but activity of the animal can protect against DNA damage. Exercise and increased metabolism increase free radical production, yet it dramatically cuts the risk of many cancers and aging disorders. They think it's due to a thing called mitohormesis, where the mitochondria produce more reducing agents to cope with the ROS extra production and the organism is better off than with the lesser amounts of ROS production. So that sort of cuts out activity levels/metabolism as a reason for the difference and leaves hormones affecting gene-expression as a possible explanation. Insulin is an 'anabolic' hormone as people like to say, that is present moreso in times where excess energy or carbohydrates are present, and also may stimulate testosterone production. This is the perfect time to reproduce, when everyone is full of energy will little chance of starvation. Conversely, everyone knows what caloric restriction does to female's mentrual cycles and catabolic hormones to sex drive in times of stress. Anyways, I think it will be quite easy to find that people with higher insulin levels and possibly even testosterone levels have shorter lives than people with lesser, due to many factors - which is the crux of the point about living big hard and fast.
-Envy-
Jun-04-09, 06:26 AM
I need some of this. I hate sex drive. Time to cut I guess.
Ashtar
Jun-04-09, 12:45 PM
No, Ashtar. They're not real.That depends on what you mean by 'real'. Take Bowser from SMB for example. He is not flesh and blood, but he is really well known, and sometimes really hard to beat, and really very useful in Lot7S, so that's 'real' in a sense.
Dating Sim Girls are not real girls, this is true. They are not as complicated as them, however due to the way the games are designed, there is a (very limited) sense of AI in that you will get different stories where different things occur as a result of your actions. This is what I mean by 'judgment'. The cause and effect programming in a game judges your actions and reacts based on that.
It is the same way that the advanced AIs in Tekken seem to be able to judge my strategies and predict my moves which is why I can't repeat the same stuff to win constantly.
Except for Yoshimitsu's knee, they never seem to see that coming...
frankinstine
Jun-04-09, 12:45 PM
Wheres all the gay sex with Yuri talk?
Vegetable
Jun-05-09, 06:57 PM
That depends on what you mean by 'real'. Take Bowser from SMB for example. He is not flesh and blood, but he is really well known, and sometimes really hard to beat, and really very useful in Lot7S, so that's 'real' in a sense.
Dating Sim Girls are not real girls, this is true. They are not as complicated as them, however due to the way the games are designed, there is a (very limited) sense of AI in that you will get different stories where different things occur as a result of your actions. This is what I mean by 'judgment'. The cause and effect programming in a game judges your actions and reacts based on that.
It is the same way that the advanced AIs in Tekken seem to be able to judge my strategies and predict my moves which is why I can't repeat the same stuff to win constantly.
Except for Yoshimitsu's knee, they never seem to see that coming...
Ashtar, you know what I meant by real, and you also know that when I said they're unable to judge you, I meant the human ability to form an opinion on someone. Don't give me your bullshit about stretching the definition of intelligence so that anything can be applied to it because it's well known that 'intelligence' is not something definable in an absolute sense - technically Mozilla Firefox is an artificial intelligence in that it accepts input, processes it, and then outputs the respective data. But when talking about intelligence from a strictly human, or at least biological level; those girls don't fall anywhere near that category. They're merely a series of bitmaps displayed alongside strings of text in memory. If you were to alter the game's data to change one of their messages from "I love you." to "I want to cut your eyes out.", their googly eyed expression will still be present, because the message itself isn't causally tied with the girl.
I often think English isn't such a great language because it gives people like you an opportunity to let the meaning of words float all over the place.
Wheres all the gay sex with Yuri talk?
seriously when am I going to get some ass?
Wheres all the gay sex with Yuri talk?
seriously when am I going to get some ass?
DeeJay
Jun-06-09, 03:45 AM
No need to ask twice! Show some patience!
Ashtar
Jun-07-09, 01:31 AM
Ashtar, you know what I meant by real, and you also know that when I said they're unable to judge you, I meant the human ability to form an opinion on someone.Firstly, I wasn't manipulating the word 'real' so do not question that. Only the word 'judgment' is whati s being contested here. Furthermore, I declare that the human ability to form an opinion on someone is not something you can treat as a static variable, because it varies so much on an individual basis. In many cases I would value the judgment of an artificial intelligence over that of a human who lacked good judgment, regarding many issues. Basically, it pisses me off when people deprecate made-up stuff when they should just be bashing stuff that sucks, regardless of if it is real or not. For example, forming a relationship with a real girl who was a total undesirable, I would not see the point in that, I would see it inferior despite it's realness compared to some unreal things which present a higher quality representing standards that we imagine for ourself.
For example, am I a lesser man for preferring to dream about fondling this: http://bleachbankai.b.l.pic.centerblog.net/bum6gdnc.jpg
As opposed to this: http://www.blogtv.com/People/HOTTIE32
Furthermore, you act like it is a lack of reality, yet fictional characters are memetic, and they possess thoughts borne from the minds of other humans, which they inevitably base upon real humans if you track them back far enough. Furthermore, cosplayers bring it back to life!
http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs21/f/2007/239/1/1/Matsumoto_Rangiku_cosplay_by_Hooded_woman.jpg
It is a means of bonding, it is no different from having a nurse fetish and wanting your girlfriend to dress up as a nurse sometimes! It exposes the opposite sex to new ideas and mindsets, and it makes things more interesting when you get bored with the way people act in everyday situations. It guarantees you can be with females who have an imagination, and that is valuable.
Don't give me your bullshit about stretching the definition of intelligence so that anything can be applied to it because it's well known that 'intelligence' is not something definable in an absolute sense - technically Mozilla Firefox is an artificial intelligence in that it accepts input, processes it, and then outputs the respective data. But when talking about intelligence from a strictly human, or at least biological level; those girls don't fall anywhere near that category. They're merely a series of bitmaps displayed alongside strings of text in memory. If you were to alter the game's data to change one of their messages from "I love you." to "I want to cut your eyes out.", their googly eyed expression will still be present, because the message itself isn't causally tied with the girl.You do have a point there, though I could note that humans' expressions do not always match their words either. Naturally there is no meaning behind certain sims, and the amount of judgment is probably an AI sub-bar to that of Firefox, so I am certainly just being a stickler for words as you say, but that is not wrong.
I often think English isn't such a great language because it gives people like you an opportunity to let the meaning of words float all over the place.Hardly, we are in agreement about what intelligence and judgment mean, you conceded that hey apply to even extremely small negligible amounts of it. I am saying that you should not say it so diminutively as if real situations were so much better.
If a real person is unable to understand an issue, then in regards to this issue they're no better than Firefox. In fact, you could argue Firefox is better because even if they don't understand a matter, they do not get confused or misinterpret it, they simply leave the matter alone because of their parameters. This is different from real people who always try even if it means coming to incorrect conclusions, and resultingly, totally messing shit up. Give me a blow-up doll as a substitute for that any day.
This doesn't mean one rules out minds which can process issues though, naturally that would be a superior alternative to doll, sim or ditz/nincompoop. But they are hard to find and harder to catch, so stop coming down on guys who enjoy looking at some drawings of cleavage now and then because it's not as if that's any worse than gawking at snapshots in a playboy.
Vegetable
Jun-07-09, 04:17 AM
Furthermore, you act like it is a lack of reality, yet fictional characters are memetic, and they possess thoughts borne from the minds of other humans, which they inevitably base upon real humans if you track them back far enough.
It is a means of bonding, it is no different from having a nurse fetish and wanting your girlfriend to dress up as a nurse sometimes! It exposes the opposite sex to new ideas and mindsets, and it makes things more interesting when you get bored with the way people act in everyday situations. It guarantees you can be with females who have an imagination, and that is valuable.
The thoughts themselves are not what I'm contesting here; it's the anthropomorphic representation of those thoughts that are the problem. These things are not something you can form a relationship, or bond with because they are totally one-sided, you may attach yourself to it but it won't attach itself back; it's entirely unable. You're projecting human characteristics onto something that possesses no mind at all.
It's also nothing like asking your girlfriend to dress up like a nurse, because in that scenario the fetish is tied to a tangible thing, whereas the fetish by itself is only floating around in thingspace.
so stop coming down on guys who enjoy looking at some drawings of cleavage now and then because it's not as if that's any worse than gawking at snapshots in a playboy.
Your assumption that I'm attacking your sexual attraction to drawings is entirely unfounded, and completely irrelevant.
Ashtar
Jun-08-09, 03:54 PM
You are only acknowledging one form of bond. It is okay to prefer two-sided bonds, I'm sure they are a superior bond, and they result in a more satisfying sort of relationship. They would be the equivilent to a covalent bond in chemistry. I believe that's when two atoms lacking energy come together to form a whole so that they can fill in each other's gaps. Give and take.
There are also ionic bonds, when you have things which are whole, but usually with a lonely valence electron, which they give selflessly to something which is missing something. Something that does that is a rather positive sort of thing. But then, that thing which only took that spark of live is a bit negative, it still remains whole with the piece inside it, but is drawn to the positive ion.
That analogy sort of lost its point, but basically: bonds can certainly be one-sided. Not everyone feels like they need to receive something in return. Sometimes a bond is merely about appreciating the beauty of something, even if it is merely an idea.
I am most certainly NOT projecting human characteristics onto something without a mind. I would like to see you support a ridiculous assertion like that. I clearly don't think these fictional characters have minds or that they have any attachment to me. You just seem to be basing this on the stereotype of other fans' mindsets.
I am not sure what you mean by 'floating around in thingspace' exactly. The whole thing behind certain fetishes (such as uniforms) is not based on tangibility(as opposed to say, a foot fetish, which is based on selective objectification of the human body) but rather, upon an occupation, which is an intangible thing.
Take a woman's fetish for a pilot for example: the uniform itself is nothing spectacular, it is more so how they pretend that the person wearing it can fly planes which is the appeal.
As for attacking me, you totally did. You even presumed I own a dating sim: I don't own any dating sims. I tried some free ones on Newgrounds and downloaded one demo, that's about it. I actually don't find them that interesting.
I'm more interested in the art+story, because I don't get any sense of interactivity or judgment as you prematurely assumed. Much like a 'choose your own adventure' I flip back to see all the different endings. It's actually pretty troublesome to do, which is why I generally avoid them unless they come highly recommended (like Fate/stay which got turned into an anime, I'd like to play that).
Vegetable
Jun-09-09, 09:33 PM
You are only acknowledging one form of bond. It is okay to prefer two-sided bonds, I'm sure they are a superior bond, and they result in a more satisfying sort of relationship. They would be the equivilent to a covalent bond in chemistry. I believe that's when two atoms lacking energy come together to form a whole so that they can fill in each other's gaps. Give and take.
There are also ionic bonds, when you have things which are whole, but usually with a lonely valence electron, which they give selflessly to something which is missing something. Something that does that is a rather positive sort of thing. But then, that thing which only took that spark of live is a bit negative, it still remains whole with the piece inside it, but is drawn to the positive ion.
That analogy sort of lost its point, but basically: bonds can certainly be one-sided. Not everyone feels like they need to receive something in return. Sometimes a bond is merely about appreciating the beauty of something, even if it is merely an idea.
Note the word 'with' being in bold text, implying that it is a two-sided bond. I was hoping maybe you would have caught that, but I guess you weren't able. You also seem to have completely ignored the rest of the very sentence it was in.
I am not sure what you mean by 'floating around in thingspace' exactly. The whole thing behind certain fetishes (such as uniforms) is not based on tangibility(as opposed to say, a foot fetish, which is based on selective objectification of the human body) but rather, upon an occupation, which is an intangible thing.
Take a woman's fetish for a pilot for example: the uniform itself is nothing spectacular, it is more so how they pretend that the person wearing it can fly planes which is the appeal.
Google the phrase. If you were referring to cosplaying and fetishism being the same, then I misread your post the first time.
As for attacking me, you totally did. You even presumed I own a dating sim: I don't own any dating sims. I tried some free ones on Newgrounds and downloaded one demo, that's about it. I actually don't find them that interesting.
Please, point out the direct attack on attraction to anime girls. I assure you, you will find nothing.
You misinterpreted my assumption; I didn't believe you owned any dating simulations, but that you had played at least a few based on your obvious obsession with anime, and surprise surprise, you had, and even expanded on the subject, proving my assumption correct.
Your constant nit-picking on the forums is irritating, unnecessary, and leads to off-topic bickering, as is the case here. This sentiment is clearly not unique here, either.
Ashtar
Jun-10-09, 11:23 PM
Hm, I did not know you attached that meaning to the word 'with'. I can accept that, it just didn't come across that way to me. I can see what you mean 'with' as opposed to 'to' I suppose, but only when you view them side by side does that contrast seem apparent, otherwise it's kinda subtle so I apologize for missing this.
I did not ignore the rest of the sentence, I read it and agreed with it. I don't criticize stuff I agree with.
I did google the phrase but the only result I got on the internet was this thread, sorry :(
As for the attack, I will admit it may not have been direct, but I perceived it subtly, but yeah I can't prove it so I will cease to argue the point, could just be some emo stuff. It's like the 'air' or whatever.
You don't really need an obsession with anime to play a dating sim. I'm sure a lot of people have played them who have never even watched them. Honestly, I wouldn't really call it an obsession just an avid interest. I am just very enthusiastic about promoting it. If it were really valid as an obsession I would not be forgetting trivia about it and I would have seen a lot more series.
What assumption did I prove correct by expanding on the subject? The assumption I had played them? I think I have mentioned before that I've played them so maybe you read it somewhere?
What lead to this off-topic bickering was your personal attack. Feel free to move it to PMing any time, but so long as you publically continue your off-topic arguing I will defend myself publically.
Your post was here: http://www.trickstutorials.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1269486&postcount=54 and in what you replied to, I did not reference anything anime-related at all: you did.
You seem to be carrying an argument from another thread (one where I did bring it up, because it was relevant to the topic) into this one, and you have nobody to blame but yourself. So if you want to reply and not argue here anymore then just PM me.
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