View Full Version : Webster or Front flip?
Courage
May-26-09, 04:22 PM
Which one is easier to learn? I mean, I know that it's really based on the person doing it, but...
I can do front handsprings pretty well, and the two moves seem somewhat similar
So yeah. Thanks in advance.
Bryanimay
May-26-09, 04:25 PM
It depends . Try them both and see which one seems easier to you .
Websters are more fun in my opinion plus they're easier to combo in/out of . I would still learn both though ^_^
I cannot front handspring well at all but can still webster and punch front very well :tongue:
I have to say frontflip but that is my opinion. This question has been asked several times and as i recall most people thought websters were easier. I cant webster but strangely enough i land axe2webster from time to time.
tricksterd8
May-26-09, 06:09 PM
I got my webster befor my frontflip.
i got front flips before websters yet i find axe to webster soooo much easier
Less than Dan
May-26-09, 07:43 PM
Front flips are, in my experience, easier.
See, with front flips, they're discouraging when you first learn them. However, if you give them consistent practice for about two weeks, they become exponentially easier as you learn to become more comfortable with the blind landing. From there, it's all fine tuning. The big thing with these guys is not to bring your knees to your chest; instead, bring your chest to your knees and drive your heels UP. Tuck in your chin, pick a spot in front of you to focus on and give it a shot. You may be surprised :)
With websters (mine aren't really fantastic), it's all about almost...kipping out of it. If you just throw up the leg and throw your arms back and UP, then the flip is easy to commit to. However, the landing takes a lot of practice to step out of, in which all the advice I can give you is to look for a spot in front of you when you open up out of the flip and try to almost do a one legged kip up out of it. Force your hips and your leg out.
Courage
May-26-09, 07:57 PM
Lol, really wasn't expecting all these replies :P.
But thanks. I think I'll learn the axe2webster first and progress from there. I've done some front flip attempts, but I really wasn't brave enough to try it. (Failed attempts)
Anyhow, thanks again guys.
Courage
May-27-09, 04:08 PM
Well I don't exactly feel like starting a new thread, so I guess I'll just add what I have to say here (uh...sorry for double posting).
So i was outside fiddling around with some very bad websters (no height, hafta work on that). I was landing some in very crouched positions, others on my behind. Small improvements here and there...but yeah. i was thinkin' of doing backflips and macacos (too bad I forgot how to do macacos :eh:) but figured I'd do the b flip when I was ready. So, I proceeded to my very bad websters. It was at the very last moment when I suddenly said "Screw this" and I punched the ground with both feet and somehow landed a front flip. You can imagine how that felt (well, maybe not as exhilerating as a backflip but...) Yeah. It was great; my 2nd flippy move. I drilled like 20 or so more just to get 'em into my brain, and yeah. I was kinda scared doing each one, but I managed to do it since I knew I would land them.
Well yeah. Now I wanna focus on improving my front flip. I can't go outside and practice them now, but I know my problems. I have no trouble getting height (practically half a second or so of airtime before I land), but I always land tucked. I suppose untucking would help, but is there any other tips? I'm almost having trouble w/ the tuck part. I mean, when I don't focus on tucking, I make it around faster then when I DO try to tuck. I'm sorry I don't have any video, but I'll continue to explain as best as I can. So when I'm mid air, when should I look at the ground to untuck? As soon as I feel myself flipping over or as I'm somewhat close to hitting the ground? Also, should I keep my arms up high as I'm about to block and swing them down as I jump? Oh...and I grab around my knees to tuck right?
Kind of a long post, but yeah.
Thanks in advance.
Bryanimay
May-27-09, 04:15 PM
You might want to jack your hips up higher to initiate your tuck . Like Dan said, get your hips up [center of gravity] higher so you rotate higher in the air and you should flip around smoothly . Remember : HEEL DRIVE ! Also , you should begin to un-tuck only once you spot the ground [helped me with landing cart_fronts] so you land with your legs firmly underneath you .
It doesn't matter where your hands are , once you get comfortable you probably won't need to grab anything in order to tuck [like with backtucks] when I first them I would grab my knees like a mother fucker - now I don't grab anything I just tuck around - probably 'cuz I'm still drilling flashkick and you need not tuck for those .
Another thing , every time I see your user name I think of this .
It would make a perfect avatar ^_^
http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Courage-dog-tv-01.jpg
EmpRitz
May-27-09, 08:49 PM
Post a vid
Courage
May-27-09, 09:23 PM
You might want to jack your hips up higher to initiate your tuck . Like Dan said, get your hips up [center of gravity] higher so you rotate higher in the air and you should flip around smoothly . Remember : HEEL DRIVE ! Also , you should begin to un-tuck only once you spot the ground [helped me with landing cart_fronts] so you land with your legs firmly underneath you .
It doesn't matter where your hands are , once you get comfortable you probably won't need to grab anything in order to tuck [like with backtucks] when I first them I would grab my knees like a mother fucker - now I don't grab anything I just tuck around - probably 'cuz I'm still drilling flashkick and you need not tuck for those .
Another thing , every time I see your user name I think of this .
It would make a perfect avatar ^_^
Hehe. I used to watch that show, but I completely forgot about the little guy til you mentioned him :smile:. I can't post a vid since I've got nothing to record it, but I'll focus on what information I have now. Thanks a lot once again.
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