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Confucius
Jul-01-09, 03:55 PM
Anyone tried it ? Your experience ?

Also, question : I'm only guessing it's not good for recovering/progressing in weightlifting. Any solid info ?

Lukas
Jul-01-09, 03:58 PM
I tried this as a way to cope with my new work schedule (waking up at 4:45 in the morning to be there at 6)....It blows! I felt like shit all the time for a week. When I just started going to bed at 8 and sleeping for a decent amount of time, it felt much better.

Aiden Bloodaxe
Jul-09-09, 07:30 AM
*calls Xander*

Pretty sure he has experience with this.

In fact, I've been doing it lately. For the past 4 days & I frigging like it.

Dave C
Jul-09-09, 08:18 AM
I always try to take half-hour to hour-long naps in the afternoon. NASA tests show it boosts performance 15-30%

Shaedar
Jul-09-09, 08:44 AM
I was tempted to try it but I had second thoughts.
I don't mind the afternoon naps but polyphasic sleep seems pointless as you need to sleep 8 hours a day and it doesn't matter if at once or in intervals.

Dave C
Jul-09-09, 10:01 AM
...as you need to sleep 8 hours a day and it doesn't matter if at once or in intervals.

Gah! GAH! Bad advice

It very much matters whether you're getting your sleep in large blocks or in little chunks. The brain isn't just doing nothing when you're asleep - it's as active as it is during the day. Half the night you do nothing but replay important events and experiences during your day so they can be properly stored as long-term memory. You'd have awful amnesia and trouble with complex thoughts, and that's barely the tip of the iceberg.

It's called a REM Cycle for a reason - you can't stop a cycle midway. You have to let it complete. Your body is doing hella maintainance work and running disk defrag and you guys just wanna fucking play counterstrike or WOW all night like whack-ass bastards. Circadian rhythms are there for a reason. Day/Night entrainment is there for a reason. Stop fighting evolution. If you stop your defrag at half-way every time you run it, your disk never gets defragged.

Stop it. Go to bed.

Khaos
Jul-09-09, 10:06 AM
Gah! GAH! Bad advice

It very much matters whether you're getting your sleep in large blocks or in little chunks. The brain isn't just doing nothing when you're asleep - it's as active as it is during the day. Half the night you do nothing but replay important events and experiences during your day so they can be properly stored as long-term memory. You'd have awful amnesia and trouble with complex thoughts, and that's barely the tip of the iceberg.

It's called a REM Cycle for a reason - you can't stop a cycle midway. You have to let it complete. Your body is doing hella maintainance work and running disk defrag and you guys just wanna fucking play counterstrike or WOW all night like whack-ass bastards. Circadian rhythms are there for a reason. Day/Night entrainment is there for a reason. Stop fighting evolution. If you stop your defrag at half-way every time you run it, your disk never gets defragged.

Stop it. Go to bed.


thankyou, i was just bout to come in on this but with not as much knowledge hahaha but yeah you hit the nail on the head there dave :good:

Dave C
Jul-09-09, 10:16 AM
Haha I was starting to wonder whether anyone ever bothered to read THIS SITE.

FFS Juji even edited in a YouTube video from neurologist John Medina's lectures on sleep cycles when I started sharing brain stuff with him regularly.

http://www.trickstutorials.com/index.php?page=content/sleeps

READ YOU FUCKERS! REEEAAADDD

6 hours of unbroken sleep is better than 8 hours of broken

Shaedar
Jul-09-09, 11:29 AM
So polyphasic sleep is bullpoo ?

Dave C
Jul-09-09, 12:32 PM
mmmmmmmmmyes

Afternoon naps are only acceptable simply because during this phase of circadian rhythm brainwaves slow to a near-theta state (probably because evolutionarily it was important to conserve energy during the hot, midday hours), so taking a break is normal around 2-4.

Think about it. Mexicans have been taking ciestas for centuries. They shut down entire towns for an hour or so because of it. Lots of cultures do it. We're all just retarded and think if we work harder, we'll work better. Really we're just making mush out of our brainamajigs

Shaedar
Jul-09-09, 01:13 PM
Glad I never tried it.

Jackamaideshwang
Jul-09-09, 07:55 PM
I really want to do the sunrise-sunset sleeping patterns.It makes sense, animals in the wild around big cities and in tests seem to get pretty screwed up from having lights on when it's dark, I don't see how we are that different.
It would save a shitload of electricity too.

Aiden Bloodaxe
Jul-10-09, 10:24 AM
Dave's a badass.

I usually have a hour or two nap at 2pm & go to bed at 11 & sleep for 8 or 9 hours, though I've been stressed a lot lately & for some reason I've started sleeping more which is unusual because I used to not sleep at all when I was stressed. So I sleep for at least 12 hours a day atm - LAZY SON OF A GUN!

Counterfeit Soda
Jul-10-09, 04:52 PM
I average probably 4-5 hours a day. My weekends I'll get 8 hours, but during the work week, I'll sleep maybe from 12:00pm-2pm, then wake up, stay awake until midnight, and then go to sleep from 12:00am-2:20am.

I've been doing this for nearly a year now.

Jackamaideshwang
Jul-10-09, 04:53 PM
Do the 1.5 hour sleep cycles reign true? So planning your sleeps so you get say 7.5, 9, 10.5 or 12 hours sleep? I found I worked best at 9 hrs of sleep, but that might have just been due to a slight duration increase, not sure.

Ashtar
Jul-12-09, 02:07 PM
Sometimes when you wake up tired and go back to sleep you have sweet dreams you can remember better.

Dave C
Jul-12-09, 04:04 PM
I average probably 4-5 hours a day. My weekends I'll get 8 hours, but during the work week, I'll sleep maybe from 12:00pm-2pm, then wake up, stay awake until midnight, and then go to sleep from 12:00am-2:20am.

I've been doing this for nearly a year now.

That's brutal. WHY!?

It is impressive what we can adapt ourselves to do, though

Just so you all know, however, rates of illness and suicide are far higher in people who work nightshifts than people who work dayshifts.

MeatMachine
Jul-17-09, 01:10 AM
JiayoJames does this! I wouldnt like to try x__x

Counterfeit Soda
Jul-19-09, 03:01 PM
That's brutal. WHY!?

It is impressive what we can adapt ourselves to do, though

Just so you all know, however, rates of illness and suicide are far higher in people who work nightshifts than people who work dayshifts.

Partly because I feel like I'm missing out on things when I sleep during the day, and partly because I just can't seem to sleep a long amount of time during the day. I also have MMA classes until 9:30pm, and it takes me hours to fall asleep after them, if I even do fall asleep. Many nights I'll just lay in bed until 2am wide awake.

Anima
Aug-02-09, 09:08 AM
Gah! GAH! Bad advice

It very much matters whether you're getting your sleep in large blocks or in little chunks. The brain isn't just doing nothing when you're asleep - it's as active as it is during the day. Half the night you do nothing but replay important events and experiences during your day so they can be properly stored as long-term memory. You'd have awful amnesia and trouble with complex thoughts, and that's barely the tip of the iceberg.

It's called a REM Cycle for a reason - you can't stop a cycle midway. You have to let it complete. Your body is doing hella maintainance work and running disk defrag and you guys just wanna fucking play counterstrike or WOW all night like whack-ass bastards. Circadian rhythms are there for a reason. Day/Night entrainment is there for a reason. Stop fighting evolution. If you stop your defrag at half-way every time you run it, your disk never gets defragged.

Stop it. Go to bed.

Both funny and educational. :smile: