Yates/Low Rows

[Lorenzo]

From: http://massmonsters-premium.tripod.com/id2.html

*Yates rows are named in honor of their founder, Dorian Yates. He has invented a means to work the back more completely and with greater weight than ever before possible. Traditional barbell rows are performed with an overhand grip, but Yates has discovered that by taking an underhand grip and remaining more upright more weight can be used. This technique also targets the back more completely as it allows for greater involvement of the trapezius and lower lats. The underhand grip also allows more indirect training of the biceps than is possible with an overhand grip.*

For more info. about the exercise just click on the link and scroll a bit down.

Maybe its because Im a big n00b lol, but Ive never heard of this exercise before.
Is any of you formiliar with this exercise and use it for you back workout?
If so, what do you think of it? Is it really better than normal rows?

As for other people, what do you think of this exercise?

Just out for hearing some opinions :)
I think I might try it out when Im starting a new training routine.

[compleks]

Yates deffinately has a massive back, but these aren't really anything special. It's just variety, which is important, but how you row depends on your goals. Mix it up for best results.

[chicanerous]

Yates deffinately has a massive back, but these aren't really anything special. It's just variety, which is important, but how you row depends on your goals. Mix it up for best results.
I agree.

You should use a variety of both horizontal and vertical pulls to maximize the size of your back. However, don't switch between variations too frequently.

[Eirik Raude]

Are Yates Rows and Pendlay Rows the same thing?

I started doing Pendlays about a month ago, they are a great exercise.

[Lorenzo]

Yates deffinately has a massive back, but these aren't really anything special. It's just variety, which is important, but how you row depends on your goals. Mix it up for best results.

I realize its not really special, but it is impressive.
But that wasnt my point actually, just wanted to know what people think of that type of rows. Because I really havent heard about it before.. and altho I always make sure I try things out to see if it works for me, I always like to hear other peoples experiences.

And I agree on the variety point.
Thats actually the second reason I wanted to know.
Because Im already looking around a bit for some new exercises for a new training routine once Ive finished my current.
So yea, I was just out to see if it would be worth trying yates rows out instead of normal rows in a new routine.

Hope Im making some sence lol, its kinda late, I guess Im gonna head to bed now lol.

[chicanerous]

Are Yates Rows and Pendlay Rows the same thing?

I started doing Pendlays about a month ago, they are a great exercise.
No -- completely different. There's a description of Yates Rows on the site posted above.

[Zeff]

Good article, I have a difficult time finding a good workout for the upper back aside from rows. The only thing I didn't like was that it didn't include any pictures, haha.

[Jetcape]

Shit, I've done those before. I Didn't know they were called "Yates Rows," though. I creatively called them "Underhand Bent-Over Rows Done At A 45 Degree Angle." :eh:

[NightHunter]

Good article, I have a difficult time finding a good workout for the upper back aside from rows. The only thing I didn't like was that it didn't include any pictures, haha.

Chinups, pullups, deadlifts...

[Zeff]

Chinups, pullups, deadlifts...

Deadlifts don't target the upper back, do they?

[chicanerous]

Deadlifts don't target the upper back, do they?
The entire back acts as a support structure. If you've trained deadlifts for any length of time, you'd easily observe that your traps, particularly, see massive growth from this lift.

[Lorenzo]

You got any description of Pendlays?
Im having a hard time finding info. about it...

And yea, gotto love pulling!
Cant wait till my hammies good again so I can start pulling again hehe =).

[compleks]

Search posts by chicanerous, he wrote quite a detailed description on pendlay rowing.

[Lorenzo]

thnx for the tip.
Im so stupid lol, I tried googling it, hardly found anything.
But totally forgot searching here :dead:
Sounds like a rather complicated exercise.

[NightHunter]

The entire back acts as a support structure. If you've trained deadlifts for any length of time, you'd easily observe that your traps, particularly, see massive growth from this lift.

Indeed, the lower back is a mover in this exercise, but the upper back and shoulders are isometrically contracted throughout the entire lift to support the weight. The forearms are of course worked in holding the bar and biceps are even worked a bit in the pulling motion.

[compleks]

Conclusion: Deadlifts work your whole body.