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[RozoN]
Mar-31-06, 01:24 AM
I've been watiching a lot of vids and reading a shitloead of threads, but I still cant get the difference between a J-stepped gainer and a reverse gainer. When u do a J-stepped gainer you turn around just like in a reverse...pleas help :sad:

Leechy
Mar-31-06, 03:11 AM
Try watching Dogens, gainer tutorial, pretty sure that explains the difference.

Either way though with a reverse gainer you take a hop to change directions before you flip and with a j-step you just step through... thats a bad explanation but hope it helps.

[RozoN]
Mar-31-06, 05:06 AM
oky... so there isnt anything called reverse j-stepped gainer ^_^ jsut wanted to be sure

cord
Mar-31-06, 01:30 PM
whaaaaaaat a j-step is where you hop 180 degrees on one leg and then backflip off the non kicking leg.

a reverse gainer is a frontflip travelling backwards

Dantess
Mar-31-06, 02:28 PM
whaaaaaaat a j-step is where you hop 180 degrees on one leg and then backflip off the non kicking leg.

a reverse gainer is a frontflip travelling backwards

Wrong. The definition above your post is correct.

Jiyaomu
Mar-31-06, 06:15 PM
whaaaaaaat a j-step is where you hop 180 degrees on one leg and then backflip off the non kicking leg.

a reverse gainer is a frontflip travelling backwards


Yeah I always thought that too cuz it makes sense...the frontflip travelling backwards is called a loser...

Workerz
Apr-02-06, 05:25 PM
That's right, gainer gets it's name because you are 'gain'ing gound, going forward through your backflip and this is why travling backwards with a front flip is a Loser

Dogen
Apr-02-06, 05:38 PM
a j step is just when you don't pivot on your non kicking leg :)

Mikey
Apr-03-06, 12:16 AM
whaaaaaaat a j-step is where you hop 180 degrees on one leg and then backflip off the non kicking leg.

a reverse gainer is a frontflip travelling backwards



incorrect on both counts.


a frontflip travelling backwards is called a loser. as opposed to a gainer.

jan
Apr-03-06, 03:52 AM
Even though I know the difference between the two, I can't seem to do gainers "non-straight forward". I always kick straight up, and I lose height from it. No matter if i do a j-step or a "normal" step, I always just do a normal gainer, as opposed to the side-gainers most people do.. Tried kicking to the side, but that didn't do much..

Any idea why this is?

biyak
Apr-03-06, 05:58 AM
Even though I know the difference between the two, I can't seem to do gainers "non-straight forward". I always kick straight up, and I lose height from it. No matter if i do a j-step or a "normal" step, I always just do a normal gainer, as opposed to the side-gainers most people do.. Tried kicking to the side, but that didn't do much..

Any idea why this is?

your lucky i do the opposit i want to do straight but i allways go sideways
any idea why and how to fix this ? ^^
tnx

jan
Apr-03-06, 06:11 AM
I just kick straight up. If you try to kick your own forehead, you're bound to follow.

biyak
Apr-03-06, 06:16 AM
try to kick your hand with your leg mybe you will follow
tnx ill try next time to kick my forehead^^

jan
Apr-03-06, 06:22 AM
Is it supposed to go sideways like \ ?? I always thought it was more like.. Body facing sideways like | sideways, not body going more horizontal.

biyak
Apr-03-06, 06:46 AM
I think it should be more horizontal ( | ) than sideways ( \ )
it looks much better like that

jan
Apr-03-06, 07:35 AM
But if you kick to the side, you will go \, not |...

biyak
Apr-03-06, 07:57 AM
yes i know but u said u wanted to go to the side so i told u how ^^
( and tnx for telling me how to go like this | )

jan
Apr-03-06, 08:31 AM
But...but... Wtf????


I meant j-step slant gainer, which is what most people do, not just a non-gainer.

Is that what a j-step slant gainer is...?:P

[RozoN]
Apr-03-06, 09:19 AM
My head is spinning....

biyak
Apr-03-06, 09:27 AM
no, not all j step gainers are slanted
u can actualy do a normal straight gainer out of j step
the j step is just to get loads of momentum ^^