How about a Plyometric section Juji?

[RayFinkle]

I was just thinking about starting some plyometric trainging in between my weight lifting and was wondering if a section on plyometrics would be a good addition to the site. Almost like the flexibility section, you could have some guidelines followed by some plyo excersises you do. No rush or nothing just a suggestion. Anyone know any sites that have good plyo excersises or programs?

[Jujimufu]

Tricksters shouldn't do plyos. It's mostly a waste of your time because tricking is plyometric training (fancy and technical plyometric training). There are few exceptions of course but most of us shouldn't even bother.

Edit: And as some bonus info ~ Training should be looked at in a remedial or opportunistic context: What is your weakest link? or What would be the ideal motor quality to train in my current circumstances?

To pool some motor qualities; Strength, Speed (Strength + Speed = Power), Flexibility, Coordination. Together equates to mobility. In a remedial context, if you are weak get stronger. If you are slow get faster. If your amplitude sucks get more flexible, etc. In those cases the sport specific action itself in question - tricking - can improve most of them indirectly but not in equal amounts. I've always found that neglecting dynamic stretching had a negative impact on my tricking; Even though tricking can improve it to some degree, it's best trained outside with specific stretching exercises. Strength is the black sheep. Tricking will do almost nothing for your strength, thus resistance exercise will always be useful for a trickster needing more strength to tap into a higher power threshold.

However, plyometrics which has an end goal of speed or power - I've found tricking or tricking basics accomplishes this end goal almost directly to such a degree plyos aren't even warranted. Why bother trying to get your box jump or VJ higher when you can be focusing on getting your backflip or butterfly twist higher? Why bother with barrier hops when you have swing throughs or successive front flips? Etc...

In the case (exception) that one is so technically inept that they can't train their power this way, some plyometrics may be warranted. But that time spent toiling away with them could be better served, spent with higher frequency, working on the technical aspects of your tricking until they themselves become your tools for power output in the athletic package.

[saunders]

Originally Posted by Jujimufu

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[Tatsumaru]

Whoa juji, sounds like your look on training has drastically changed haha. Well, the time I asked you about plyometrics in periodized training was over a year ago anyway. Interesting though.

[glide2]

Originally Posted by Jujimufu

Tricksters shouldn't do plyos. It's mostly a waste of your time because tricking is plyometric training (fancy and technical plyometric training). There are few exceptions of course but most of us shouldn't even bother.

Edit: And as some bonus info ~ Training should be looked at in a remedial or opportunistic context: What is your weakest link? or What would be the ideal motor quality to train in my current circumstances?

To pool some motor qualities; Strength, Speed (Strength + Speed = Power), Flexibility, Coordination. Together equates to mobility. In a remedial context, if you are weak get stronger. If you are slow get faster. If your amplitude sucks get more flexible, etc. In those cases the sport specific action itself in question - tricking - can improve most of them indirectly but not in equal amounts. I've always found that neglecting dynamic stretching had a negative impact on my tricking; Even though tricking can improve it to some degree, it's best trained outside with specific stretching exercises. Strength is the black sheep. Tricking will do almost nothing for your strength, thus resistance exercise will always be useful for a trickster needing more strength to tap into a higher power threshold.

However, plyometrics which has an end goal of speed or power - I've found tricking or tricking basics accomplishes this end goal almost directly to such a degree plyos aren't even warranted. Why bother trying to get your box jump or VJ higher when you can be focusing on getting your backflip or butterfly twist higher? Why bother with barrier hops when you have swing throughs or successive front flips? Etc...

In the case (exception) that one is so technically inept that they can't train their power this way, some plyometrics may be warranted. But that time spent toiling away with them could be better served, spent with higher frequency, working on the technical aspects of your tricking until they themselves become your tools for power output in the athletic package.

Fuck Juji that was beautiful *sheds tear*.

[Benji]

Oh my God. I love you Juji.

[Dragonic MiKe]

Juji makes much sense.

Almost... too much sense.

[Tamonten]

Yeah. Juji always words everything in such a manner that it's flawlessly understandable.

[acidhell1]

JUJI, congratulations, one of the best posts in this forum.

[Ashtar]

What's cool plyometrics is plyo-like things done for other purposes that build skills, like jump rope, sprinting, or the depth jumping seen in freerunning.