Noob Question...

Peleke · Feb-26-06, 05:57 PM

Okay. Sorry if these are really noobish questions, but I thought I'd try to ask for information in the one place I know I can get a solid answer. I guess I'll follow nighthunters "How to ask for advice" just to make it easier for you guys haha.

1.) I'm 13 years old and have been going to the gym inconsistently for the last month, and I'm ready to try to go enough to bulk up and get fit and slimmer. I have no serius injuries or pains that affect me in my training, exceptfor minor knee pain whilst doing squats/hacksquats.

2.) I have a large body build, and before you kill me for being a fat ass after I post my weight, I don't look it at ALL. I currently weigh in at 200 pounds, and yes I am overweight, but I am by no means huge. I have goals to drop to 170 or 160, and I don't expect to get there in only 3 or 4 months. I want to first drop to 160 or 170, and from there I would like to proceed to increase muscle mass, get cut, increase my muscular endurance and strength, and eventually weigh 190-200 after bulking.

3.) I have currently decided to dedicate myself to weight loss and muscle gain for a few huge reasons:
1.) I am overweight, moreso then I should be, and I want to change that.
2.)I one day aspire to become a bodybuilder, and that isn't going to be easy if I'm fat.
3.) I wish to play tournament paintball next year, which will give me time to bulk up and get better, slimmer, and be able to run faster longer.

4.)Self assessment of my ability? I can't run for very long, honestly probably only a sixth of a mile. I can handle some cardio work though, and I am beginning to try to incorporate that into my workout. I have never worked out before, so I am not really that strong, but my main focuses as far as cuts go after losing weight will be mainly arms and traps. I would love to have traps,nice shoulders and biceps, and even toned forearms if I can get that far.

5.) Sorry, no pics. I don't have any specific cutting questions right now.

Well, thats just a little bit of information that might help you to answer my main questions. Since I'm new at working out, how many times a week should I do it? How long, should I split up weight lifting days with cardio days or is it okay to do both in one session? What is a realistic window of time for losing 30-40 pounds? What exercises do your recommend for certain hard to train muscle groups, if there are any? Are there any specific techniques I should use in my training? Are there certain pains I should look for to signal injuries? And would it be dangerous/unrealistic(I expect to be around 15 when I finally reach my goals) for me at 13 to attempt to reach the goals I have for cutting (specifically, 6 pack, thick lats, distincitive curvature between the delts, biceps/triceps and forearms, and that "V" shape along the back, I can't remember what muscle that is...)? I sincerely apologize for the barrage of questions and the lack of knowledge, and I plan on spending the rest of this week racking up information for my diet and workout plan from this forum and from the various books and internet sources I have. Thanks in advance, and once again, sorry for all the questions.

karategirl11 · Feb-26-06, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Peleke

4.)Most of all, I suffer from moderate Gynocomastia. Enlargement of the breast to due to increased estrogen releases...which is another reason I need to lose weight. Its not terrible, but its not very fun either.

...wait did u just say estrogen?

Peleke · Feb-26-06, 06:07 PM

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...wait did u just say estrogen?

haha. Its a common misconception. Guys don't just release testostorone, girls dont just release estrogen. We both release each substance, but in very different levels. Or so I've read.

karategirl11 · Feb-26-06, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Peleke

haha. Its a common misconception. Guys don't just release testostorone, girls dont just release estrogen. We both release each substance, but in very different levels. Or so I've read.

well if what you've read was right...wow i was like "woah!" for a minute there.

Less than Dan · Feb-26-06, 06:09 PM

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...wait did u just say estrogen?

Don't question it. Such things are touchy subjects. I've had to deal with such things far too much in my lifetime.

Where the hell is compleks? He could answer this one in a jiffy.

karategirl11 · Feb-26-06, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Less than Dan

Don't question it. Such things are touchy subjects. I've had to deal with such things far too much in my lifetime.

Where the hell is compleks? He could answer this one in a jiffy.

Gotta listen to Dan the sexy man.

Less than Dan · Feb-26-06, 06:16 PM

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Gotta listen to Dan the sexy man.

Shh, don't tell anyone.

I've grown up with someone who has a chromosome disorder known as XXY, or Klinefeiter's disorder. It took him 13 years of constant testosterone and thyroid balancing to become the man he is today...

karategirl11 · Feb-26-06, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Less than Dan

Shh, don't tell anyone.

I've grown up with someone who has a chromosome disorder known as XXY, or Klinefeiter's disorder. It took him 13 years of constant testosterone and thyroid balancing to become the man he is today...

(Sorry Peleke, I'm ruining your thread.

)

Peleke · Feb-26-06, 06:22 PM

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(Sorry Peleke, I'm ruining your thread.

)

Haha, I don't care right now. @ Dan: Wow. I thought I had it bad till I read that. My dad was telling me about that, hes a reproductive indocronologist but recently has taken courses in genetics. I never thought I'd know someone who knew someone who had it

Drex · Feb-27-06, 12:33 PM

I killed compleks, sorry. It's true that both men and women have testosterone and estrogen in their bodies. Men obviously have more testosterone than women which is the reason why we're able to put on muscle mass far more easily than women. On the flip side, women have more estrogen in their bodies than men. This is the sex hormone that can cause mood swings, breast developement etc.

I suggest, peleke, that you see a doctor about that. They can give you anti estrogen drugs that will prevent it from being formed. It will also get rid of your symptoms. If you're taking steriods, however, I suggest you stop - being that they can cause gyno.

Feb-26-06, 05:57 PM	#1
Peleke Rawr. User status: Offline Location: Marietta, Georgia Posts: 1,227 Age: 17	Noob Question... Okay. Sorry if these are really noobish questions, but I thought I'd try to ask for information in the one place I know I can get a solid answer. I guess I'll follow nighthunters "How to ask for advice" just to make it easier for you guys haha. 1.) I'm 13 years old and have been going to the gym inconsistently for the last month, and I'm ready to try to go enough to bulk up and get fit and slimmer. I have no serius injuries or pains that affect me in my training, exceptfor minor knee pain whilst doing squats/hacksquats. 2.) I have a large body build, and before you kill me for being a fat ass after I post my weight, I don't look it at ALL. I currently weigh in at 200 pounds, and yes I am overweight, but I am by no means huge. I have goals to drop to 170 or 160, and I don't expect to get there in only 3 or 4 months. I want to first drop to 160 or 170, and from there I would like to proceed to increase muscle mass, get cut, increase my muscular endurance and strength, and eventually weigh 190-200 after bulking. 3.) I have currently decided to dedicate myself to weight loss and muscle gain for a few huge reasons: 1.) I am overweight, moreso then I should be, and I want to change that. 2.)I one day aspire to become a bodybuilder, and that isn't going to be easy if I'm fat. 3.) I wish to play tournament paintball next year, which will give me time to bulk up and get better, slimmer, and be able to run faster longer. 4.)Self assessment of my ability? I can't run for very long, honestly probably only a sixth of a mile. I can handle some cardio work though, and I am beginning to try to incorporate that into my workout. I have never worked out before, so I am not really that strong, but my main focuses as far as cuts go after losing weight will be mainly arms and traps. I would love to have traps,nice shoulders and biceps, and even toned forearms if I can get that far. 5.) Sorry, no pics. I don't have any specific cutting questions right now. Well, thats just a little bit of information that might help you to answer my main questions. Since I'm new at working out, how many times a week should I do it? How long, should I split up weight lifting days with cardio days or is it okay to do both in one session? What is a realistic window of time for losing 30-40 pounds? What exercises do your recommend for certain hard to train muscle groups, if there are any? Are there any specific techniques I should use in my training? Are there certain pains I should look for to signal injuries? And would it be dangerous/unrealistic(I expect to be around 15 when I finally reach my goals) for me at 13 to attempt to reach the goals I have for cutting (specifically, 6 pack, thick lats, distincitive curvature between the delts, biceps/triceps and forearms, and that "V" shape along the back, I can't remember what muscle that is...)? I sincerely apologize for the barrage of questions and the lack of knowledge, and I plan on spending the rest of this week racking up information for my diet and workout plan from this forum and from the various books and internet sources I have. Thanks in advance, and once again, sorry for all the questions. Last edited by Peleke; Feb-26-06 at 06:07 PM..

Feb-27-06, 12:33 PM	#10
Drex Extremist User status: Offline Location: Toronto Posts: 467 Age: 21	I killed compleks, sorry. It's true that both men and women have testosterone and estrogen in their bodies. Men obviously have more testosterone than women which is the reason why we're able to put on muscle mass far more easily than women. On the flip side, women have more estrogen in their bodies than men. This is the sex hormone that can cause mood swings, breast developement etc. I suggest, peleke, that you see a doctor about that. They can give you anti estrogen drugs that will prevent it from being formed. It will also get rid of your symptoms. If you're taking steriods, however, I suggest you stop - being that they can cause gyno.