anylization of a jacknife

maxx · Mar-02-06, 06:46 PM

Ok i pose the question..is a 540 hook..really a 540 hook?

I ask this, cause i was analyzing on how to do a jacknife. slowing down videos...trying to figure out what i can do to help. And i was realizing that...its not really a 540. I'm using rudy as an example since people say he has a good one. How is this a 540...normally on a 540 you kick over the knee. But in a jacknife the kicking leg comes up about i'd say half way..maybe even less then you turn for the hook. Is it still a 540? or is more of a cheat-540?

TartanPajamas · Mar-02-06, 06:48 PM

Good jackknife has a 540, standard jackknife doesn't reeeeally have much of a first kick.

maxx · Mar-02-06, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TartanPajamas

Good jackknife has a 540, standard jackknife doesn't reeeeally have much of a first kick.

i always heard that rudy has a good one..is it cause its fast people don't realize this? i mean i slowed it down to try and figure it out.

Peleke · Mar-02-06, 06:53 PM

I noticed most people kick low for the 540, then high for the Hook. I have no plan on doing this move, but I love the way it looks, so I've watched all the vids I can in slow mo and regualr speed, and thats one of the things I've noticed. And yes, Rudy doesn't kick the full 540 I don't think. He even says if you kick lower for the 540, than the hook will come out clean. Chris Devera has a good one, I saw a gif of his once, but I didn't analyze it. Maybe he does the same thing, I'll look for it and post back.

TartanPajamas · Mar-02-06, 06:57 PM

Look at Manny Brown's jackknife, in his second bilang sampler. I think it's up right now.

Less than Dan · Mar-02-06, 07:04 PM

It's a strange move to perform, as I don't even remotely think 540, but I think more on the lines of Cheat720twist and a strange raiz.

I think about laying back after bringing that leg up, and then forcing my back leg and my hips over, and then the final hooks comes out. Barf. I only had this move for a week or so, now I can't fully mentally throw the motion when I do it. I need to conditon my mind for this move again. The movement is so smooth.

maxx · Mar-02-06, 07:11 PM

ok i just checked out mannys he does a real 540, and damn...but when he hooked his foot was technically on the ground. his was more of the jacknife i expect to see. like when he started the hook he was mid air but when he was half way complete he was on the ground.

i remember devera says he does a layed back version cause he feels its easier to hook it....i think thats wut he said.

Duke_Hoff · Mar-02-06, 07:18 PM

Yes well look at Chris D's jacknife then haha, especially the one Gdong posted.
And yea, most people just dont really see that Rudy doesnt do much of a first kick, in any footage we see anyway.

Mastabiff · Mar-02-06, 08:37 PM

Sometimes the line is blurry between a pumpy 540 crecent and a jacknife. There was a clip in chris mark's sampler that made me think of that; it looked like he was going for a jacknife but if you looked closely there really wasn't a first kick. A lot of people kind of extend the first leg then drop it to throw the hook. Manny Brown and Ben Brown have some pretty solid kicks though.

maxx · Mar-02-06, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mastabiff

Sometimes the line is blurry between a pumpy 540 crecent and a jacknife. There was a clip in chris mark's sampler that made me think of that; it looked like he was going for a jacknife but if you looked closely there really wasn't a first kick. A lot of people kind of extend the first leg then drop it to throw the hook. Manny Brown and Ben Brown have some pretty solid kicks though.

i think mark was doing a crowdawakener hook.

Mar-02-06, 06:46 PM	#1
maxx Black Emo User status: Offline Location: framingham,ma Posts: 2,414 Age: 25	anylization of a jacknife Ok i pose the question..is a 540 hook..really a 540 hook? I ask this, cause i was analyzing on how to do a jacknife. slowing down videos...trying to figure out what i can do to help. And i was realizing that...its not really a 540. I'm using rudy as an example since people say he has a good one. How is this a 540...normally on a 540 you kick over the knee. But in a jacknife the kicking leg comes up about i'd say half way..maybe even less then you turn for the hook. Is it still a 540? or is more of a cheat-540? Last edited by maxx; Mar-02-06 at 06:51 PM..

Mar-02-06, 06:48 PM	#2
TartanPajamas Anti-Branleur User status: Offline Location: Ladysmith, BC, Canada Posts: 1,666 Age: 21	Good jackknife has a 540, standard jackknife doesn't reeeeally have much of a first kick.

Mar-02-06, 06:53 PM	#4
Peleke Rawr. User status: Offline Location: Marietta, Georgia Posts: 1,227 Age: 17	I noticed most people kick low for the 540, then high for the Hook. I have no plan on doing this move, but I love the way it looks, so I've watched all the vids I can in slow mo and regualr speed, and thats one of the things I've noticed. And yes, Rudy doesn't kick the full 540 I don't think. He even says if you kick lower for the 540, than the hook will come out clean. Chris Devera has a good one, I saw a gif of his once, but I didn't analyze it. Maybe he does the same thing, I'll look for it and post back.

Mar-02-06, 06:57 PM	#5
TartanPajamas Anti-Branleur User status: Offline Location: Ladysmith, BC, Canada Posts: 1,666 Age: 21	Look at Manny Brown's jackknife, in his second bilang sampler. I think it's up right now.

Mar-02-06, 07:04 PM	#6
Less than Dan Ṃoderator User status: Online Location: Towson, MD. Posts: 2,687 Age: 21	It's a strange move to perform, as I don't even remotely think 540, but I think more on the lines of Cheat720twist and a strange raiz. I think about laying back after bringing that leg up, and then forcing my back leg and my hips over, and then the final hooks comes out. Barf. I only had this move for a week or so, now I can't fully mentally throw the motion when I do it. I need to conditon my mind for this move again. The movement is so smooth.

Mar-02-06, 07:11 PM	#7
maxx Black Emo User status: Offline Location: framingham,ma Posts: 2,414 Age: 25	ok i just checked out mannys he does a real 540, and damn...but when he hooked his foot was technically on the ground. his was more of the jacknife i expect to see. like when he started the hook he was mid air but when he was half way complete he was on the ground. i remember devera says he does a layed back version cause he feels its easier to hook it....i think thats wut he said.

Mar-02-06, 07:18 PM	#8
Duke_Hoff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ User status: Offline Location: Toms River, New Jersey Posts: 749 Age: 20	Yes well look at Chris D's jacknife then haha, especially the one Gdong posted. And yea, most people just dont really see that Rudy doesnt do much of a first kick, in any footage we see anyway.

Mar-02-06, 08:37 PM	#9
Mastabiff Propaganda director User status: Offline Location: FL Posts: 553	Sometimes the line is blurry between a pumpy 540 crecent and a jacknife. There was a clip in chris mark's sampler that made me think of that; it looked like he was going for a jacknife but if you looked closely there really wasn't a first kick. A lot of people kind of extend the first leg then drop it to throw the hook. Manny Brown and Ben Brown have some pretty solid kicks though.