What about Tabata?

Wilmey · Mar-05-06, 01:08 PM

There's this Tabata routine I heard about last week (--> testosterone nation website). It's supposed to totally drain you, and make you close to vomiting within 4 minutes. Of course, I had to try it out for myself. Did some Tabata jumping jacks, and later I tried to do as many back-kicks/dwit chagi's as possible.

But was it gruelling? No. Did I feel my blood rushing for hours afterwards? No. Did I get so activated that I got close to hurling? No. I remember doing push-ups during kickboxing class n a fashion that I now, in retrospect, call Tabata sets. But my muscles got drained before all the rest even got the chance to get pumped.

It's not that I have masochist tendencies (well, maybe), but did I do something wrong? Or is all this talk about the Tabata just crap? Any of you ever tried Tabata sets?

General Miaow · Mar-05-06, 01:19 PM

I love Tabata intervals. As you know, they increase anaerobic and aerobic capacity without catabolising muscle. They're actually the only specific cardio work I do these days.

A lot of people jusst don't get nauseated by heavy exercise. I am one. No matter how hard I work or how drained I feel, I never get a twinge of sickness. So don't think that for something to be hard, it must make you nauseous.

Anyway, what you did wrong was probably not going at it hard enough. Try dumbbell snatches or something harder than jumping jacks. Also, there's no rule that you can only do one Tabata intewrval per training session. I sometimes do five or six, with breaks in between.

Wilmey · Mar-05-06, 01:22 PM

So, which Tabata routine makes your blood boil most?

General Miaow · Mar-05-06, 01:25 PM

I use various exercises, but sandbag snatches would be my answer. Tabata tricking would be... interesting.

falcon3608 · Mar-05-06, 01:38 PM

After reading it, it seems like guerilla cardio implemented into weight lifting.

chicanerous · Mar-05-06, 01:40 PM

If you want to be a masochist, you need to use an exercise that is taxing on your body with the tabata intervals. Jumping jacks is one of the easiest activities known to man and will never make you feel even close to puking.

Try doing tabata squats or sprinting or Miaow's sandbang snatches.

zachwr3 · Mar-05-06, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by falcon3608

After reading it, it seems like guerilla cardio implemented into weight lifting.

you got it backwards, guerilla cardio is modeled after tabata

Wilmey · Mar-05-06, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicanerous

If you want to be a masochist, you need to use an exercise that is taxing on your body with the tabata intervals. Jumping jacks is one of the easiest activities known to man and will never make you feel even close to puking.

Try doing tabata squats or sprinting or Miaow's sandbang snatches.

Taxing in what way? I mean: like with push-ups, my arms and pecs just don't want to work for me anymore before I feel pumped. So I can tell push-ups doesn't get the maximum benefit out of a Tabata exercise for me. How do I tell stuff like that beforehand if I want to experiment on the exercises? Any rule of thumb you're willing to share would be much appreciated...

chicanerous · Mar-05-06, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilmey

Taxing in what way? I mean: like with push-ups, my arms and pecs just don't want to work for me anymore before I feel pumped. So I can tell push-ups doesn't get the maximum benefit out of a Tabata exercise for me. How do I tell stuff like that beforehand if I want to experiment on the exercises? Any rule of thumb you're willing to share would be much appreciated...

Taxing on the respiratory system. Push-ups or curls, for example, you can do to your heart's content without elevating your heart-rate significantly and gasping for breath. Squats, snatches, or sprinting on the other hand create a huge oxygen debt in the body and leave you gasping for air by virtue of the large number of muscles that are used in the movements as well as the amount of power you can put into them.

Tabata was first developed as a method of cardiovascular conditioning and thrives on this fact. It does not work with isolation or weak compounds. You must use heavy strong compound movements or activities to maximize its effectiveness.

I'm not sure which article you read at T-Nation, but this is a good one: http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle....4-046-training

Wilmey · Mar-05-06, 06:49 PM

Dang. Gonna have some fun soon.

Mar-05-06, 01:08 PM	#1
Wilmey brain: hurt, in - sleep User status: Offline Location: OldestCityInNetherlands Posts: 24 Age: 29	What about Tabata? There's this Tabata routine I heard about last week (--> testosterone nation website). It's supposed to totally drain you, and make you close to vomiting within 4 minutes. Of course, I had to try it out for myself. Did some Tabata jumping jacks, and later I tried to do as many back-kicks/dwit chagi's as possible. But was it gruelling? No. Did I feel my blood rushing for hours afterwards? No. Did I get so activated that I got close to hurling? No. I remember doing push-ups during kickboxing class n a fashion that I now, in retrospect, call Tabata sets. But my muscles got drained before all the rest even got the chance to get pumped. It's not that I have masochist tendencies (well, maybe), but did I do something wrong? Or is all this talk about the Tabata just crap? Any of you ever tried Tabata sets?

Mar-05-06, 01:19 PM	#2
General Miaow A cat with a fez User status: Offline Location: Ireland Posts: 359 Age: 23	I love Tabata intervals. As you know, they increase anaerobic and aerobic capacity without catabolising muscle. They're actually the only specific cardio work I do these days. A lot of people jusst don't get nauseated by heavy exercise. I am one. No matter how hard I work or how drained I feel, I never get a twinge of sickness. So don't think that for something to be hard, it must make you nauseous. Anyway, what you did wrong was probably not going at it hard enough. Try dumbbell snatches or something harder than jumping jacks. Also, there's no rule that you can only do one Tabata intewrval per training session. I sometimes do five or six, with breaks in between.

Mar-05-06, 01:22 PM	#3
Wilmey brain: hurt, in - sleep User status: Offline Location: OldestCityInNetherlands Posts: 24 Age: 29	So, which Tabata routine makes your blood boil most?

Mar-05-06, 01:25 PM	#4
General Miaow A cat with a fez User status: Offline Location: Ireland Posts: 359 Age: 23	I use various exercises, but sandbag snatches would be my answer. Tabata tricking would be... interesting.

Mar-05-06, 01:38 PM	#5
falcon3608 RPG-7 User status: Offline Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 78 Age: 19	After reading it, it seems like guerilla cardio implemented into weight lifting.

Mar-05-06, 01:40 PM	#6
chicanerous mathstutorials.com User status: Offline Posts: 3,021	If you want to be a masochist, you need to use an exercise that is taxing on your body with the tabata intervals. Jumping jacks is one of the easiest activities known to man and will never make you feel even close to puking. Try doing tabata squats or sprinting or Miaow's sandbang snatches.

Mar-05-06, 06:49 PM	#10
Wilmey brain: hurt, in - sleep User status: Offline Location: OldestCityInNetherlands Posts: 24 Age: 29	Dang. Gonna have some fun soon.